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Debate Score:53
Arguments:52
Total Votes:53
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Is America a bad ally for Britain

yes

Side Score: 22
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no

Side Score: 31
1 point

they took advantage of europe in between the wars

1) they start the league of nations to "prevent wars"

(if all countries talked about things then they wouldn't have to fight)

2) they then dont join it

(which leaves Britain and France to take control of things but neither was very strong because they used up their resources in world war 1)

3)they also enforce the treaty of versailles to punish Germany for world war 1 (Hitler used the treay to get himself elected)

4) because of they treaty of versailles germany had little money so they had to borrow money from america to rebuild after the war

Side: yes
sirius(367) Disputed
1 point

Why are you dwelling on the past? The United States, along with Great Britain, established the United Nations, which has became a success. It doesn't matter what happened 70 years ago because today we are each others greatest ally's.

Side: No
Axmeister(4317) Disputed
1 point

because no-one bothered to do anything at the time and Britain got the worst of it and America got off with nothing

Side: yes
Axmeister(4317) Disputed
1 point

if america hadn't snatched all that money do you really think they could be as powerful as they are today?

Side: yes
Cicero(239) Disputed
1 point

1) they start the league of nations to "prevent wars"

That was Woodrow Wilson's doing, and the big four (Orlando Clemenceau Wilson and George) agreed to put it in the treaty, so it is their own undoing.

2) they then dont join it

That's because the American people never wanted it.

Also France was the major contributor causing WWII for wanting to punish Germany. It's obvious Germany would eventually want revenge but Clemenceau didn't care.

Side: No
Axmeister(4317) Disputed
1 point

That was Woodrow Wilson's doing,

and who elected him

and the big four

who going to disagree with the guy who controls the most powerful country in the world

That's because the American people never wanted it.

so they come up with an idea fo the league with no intention of joining it and then force everyone else to join

Side: yes
2 points

That's ridiculous. America is one of the greatest allies any country could have. Granted we're not perfect, and sure we drag allies into senseless wars now and again, but at the least there is absolutely not a chance of an ally of ours to be taken over by a hostile nation any time soon. And at least 7 times out of 10 were on the right side of world issues - that is pretty good considering human civilization as a whole. The US GDP is almost as big as all of Europe combined. Our military has more toys than the rest of the world combined.

As for America being allies with England - sure, the food is terrible, but did you know that on average British women have the biggest tits? And some of the best comedy comes from England, I'm watching Hot Fuzz right now - great movie.

Side: No

They are our brethren, our friends and our greatest military ally. They are powerful and inventive, fundamentally just and fair and true to our friendship. Of greater concern to me is our increasingly civil relationship with France.

Side: No
Axmeister(4317) Disputed
1 point

And where were they during the start of world war 2

They were isolationist so on other terms they decided not to help us in our time of need

Side: yes
1 point

And where were they during the start of world war 2

It is more important to ask where they were at the end. Berlin.

They were isolationist so on other terms they decided not to help us in our time of need

Where were we during Vietnam?

Side: No
1 point

When push comes to shove the British Army ( The best in the world) will be right with USA. The difficulty would be the lack of popular support for leaders such as Blair and G W bush, warmongers who would lie through their teeth thus the people would not be behind them. However in a direct threat Britain would be with USA no hesitation and likewise USA with UK.

Side: No
Axmeister(4317) Disputed
1 point

without our empire we are reduced to a little island on the outskirts of europe

the only thing thats keeping us a world power is money and even that is getting threatened in todays world

there are reports stating our army is in fact smaller than several other countries but they might not be true.

Side: yes
Bohemian(3861) Disputed
1 point

the only thing thats keeping us a world power is money and even that is getting threatened in todays world

That, and the fact that there are over 300 million Americans.

Side: No
Bohemian(3861) Disputed
1 point

there are reports stating our army is in fact smaller than several other countries but they might not be true.

This is a good source of information:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_troops

Just glancing at the list I can see that... United states, North Korea, Russia, India, and China are the only countries with over a million active soldiers.

Side: No
1 point

OK I GIVE UP

no-one on this debate agrees with me so I think I should change my point of veiw and see America as a good ally for Britain

Side: No
1 point

Ha ha - nice one Axmeister !!!!! When the shit hits the fan we know our USA friends will be their.

Side: No