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Is Bisexuality A Legitimate Sexual Orientation?
Now, I've heard this before in other debates I've had. But reading this article made me want to bring it up here.
I have my reasons for believing bisexuality IS a legitimate sexual orientation and also have my reasons for why I'm annoyed with the picture that goes along with it, but I want to know what others have to say.
Ah, yeah.. the article was pretty ambiguous. I didn't look at the study specifically, but I don't like the fact that either or both the article and the study left out the reasons why people felt it was illegitimate.
Well if that is how they came to the conclusion that Bisexuality isn't Legitimate, then they did it in a fallacious manner. They probably wasted a lot of time and resources on that silly study...
Besides, how else would you even define someone whom is actively having sex with both male and female, as confused? Do they have no orientation at all? Lol (rhetorical questions)
When you're dating or having sexual relations with both males and females, that's obviously not homosexuality or heterosexuality. That alone should be enough.
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
- Leviticus 20:13
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
- Leviticus 18:22
Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by God for homosexuality.
-Genesis
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
-Romans 1:26
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
- Leviticus 20:13
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
- Leviticus 18:22
Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by God for homosexuality.
-Genesis
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
I have serious doubts that you are really a Christian and have a strong suspicion that you are really just a poe, but for now I will give you the benefit of the doubt. You keep posting the same verses over and over and down-voting everyone that disagrees with you, but when I challenge you on them you don't respond. So from now on every time you post those verses I will copy and paste this argument until I get a response.
Leviticus also says...
"Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death."
“Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed."
“Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material."
"Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard."
“If a man has sexual relations with a woman during her monthly period, he has exposed the source of her flow, and she has also uncovered it. Both of them are to be cut off from their people."
Sorry but I don't take quotes from the Bible any more seriously than I take quotes from Harry Potter. The Bible is the last place we should be getting our morality from. The god described in the Bible is one of the most immoral beings man has ever dreamed up.
1. He says slavery is okay (Leviticus 25:44-46).
2. He says it's okay to beat your slaves as long as they survive the beating for a few days (Exodus 21:20-21).
3. He says selling your daughters as slaves and/or wives is okay (Exodus 21:7).
4. He tells his followers to make entire cities into slaves or kill them if they don't cooperate and keep the women as "plunder" (Deut 20:10-15)
5. He kills people for trying to be helpful (2 Samuel 6:3-7)
6. He and his followers go on massive killing sprees numerous times throughout the Bible, often killing children and animals. (1 Samuel 15:2-3, Joshua 8:1-29, Joshua 6:20-21, Judges 20:23-48, 2 Kings 19:35, Jeremiah 50:21-22, etc.)
This next passage shows just how depraved the Biblical god is. It's very long so I trimmed it some to keep it a reasonable length.
Deuteronomy 28:15-68 "Moses and the elders of Israel commanded the people... if you do not obey the Lord your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come on you and overtake you: You will be cursed in the city and cursed in the country... The fruit of your womb will be cursed, and the crops of your land, and the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks... The Lord will send on you curses, confusion and rebuke in everything you put your hand to, until you are destroyed and come to sudden ruin because of the evil you have done in forsaking him. The Lord will plague you with diseases until he has destroyed you from the land you are entering to possess. The Lord will strike you with wasting disease, with fever and inflammation, with scorching heat and drought, with blight and mildew, which will plague you until you perish... The Lord will turn the rain of your country into dust and powder; it will come down from the skies until you are destroyed. The Lord will cause you to be defeated before your enemies... and you will become a thing of horror to all the kingdoms on earth. Your carcasses will be food for all the birds and the wild animals... The Lord will afflict you with the boils of Egypt and with tumors, festering sores and the itch, from which you cannot be cured. The Lord will afflict you with madness, blindness and confusion of mind. At midday you will grope about like a blind person in the dark. You will be unsuccessful in everything you do; day after day you will be oppressed and robbed, with no one to rescue you. You will be pledged to be married to a woman, but another will take her and rape her... Your sons and daughters will be given to another nation, and you will wear out your eyes watching for them day after day, powerless to lift a hand... you will have nothing but cruel oppression all your days. The sights you see will drive you mad. The Lord will afflict your knees and legs with painful boils that cannot be cured, spreading from the soles of your feet to the top of your head."
So to sum all that up, if we don't do exactly as he says he will make our lives a living hell and torture us until the day we die, and then after we die he will sentence us to eternal torment in hell. Does that sound like the actions of a kind and loving god to you? After reading all that do you really think we should get our morality from the Bible?
People are born straight they turn gay because they choose too
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
- Leviticus 20:13
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
- Leviticus 18:22
Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by God for homosexuality.
-Genesis
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
I have serious doubts that you are really a Christian and have a strong suspicion that you are really just a poe, but for now I will give you the benefit of the doubt. You keep posting the same verses over and over and down-voting everyone that disagrees with you, but when I challenge you on them you don't respond. So from now on every time you post those verses I will copy and paste this argument until I get a response.
Leviticus also says...
"Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death."
“Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed."
“Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material."
"Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard."
“If a man has sexual relations with a woman during her monthly period, he has exposed the source of her flow, and she has also uncovered it. Both of them are to be cut off from their people."
Sorry but I don't take quotes from the Bible any more seriously than I take quotes from Harry Potter. The Bible is the last place we should be getting our morality from. The god described in the Bible is one of the most immoral beings man has ever dreamed up.
1. He says slavery is okay (Leviticus 25:44-46).
2. He says it's okay to beat your slaves as long as they survive the beating for a few days (Exodus 21:20-21).
3. He says selling your daughters as slaves and/or wives is okay (Exodus 21:7).
4. He tells his followers to make entire cities into slaves or kill them if they don't cooperate and keep the women as "plunder" (Deut 20:10-15)
5. He kills people for trying to be helpful (2 Samuel 6:3-7)
6. He and his followers go on massive killing sprees numerous times throughout the Bible, often killing children and animals. (1 Samuel 15:2-3, Joshua 8:1-29, Joshua 6:20-21, Judges 20:23-48, 2 Kings 19:35, Jeremiah 50:21-22, etc.)
This next passage shows just how depraved the Biblical god is. It's very long so I trimmed it some to keep it a reasonable length.
Deuteronomy 28:15-68 "Moses and the elders of Israel commanded the people... if you do not obey the Lord your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come on you and overtake you: You will be cursed in the city and cursed in the country... The fruit of your womb will be cursed, and the crops of your land, and the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks... The Lord will send on you curses, confusion and rebuke in everything you put your hand to, until you are destroyed and come to sudden ruin because of the evil you have done in forsaking him. The Lord will plague you with diseases until he has destroyed you from the land you are entering to possess. The Lord will strike you with wasting disease, with fever and inflammation, with scorching heat and drought, with blight and mildew, which will plague you until you perish... The Lord will turn the rain of your country into dust and powder; it will come down from the skies until you are destroyed. The Lord will cause you to be defeated before your enemies... and you will become a thing of horror to all the kingdoms on earth. Your carcasses will be food for all the birds and the wild animals... The Lord will afflict you with the boils of Egypt and with tumors, festering sores and the itch, from which you cannot be cured. The Lord will afflict you with madness, blindness and confusion of mind. At midday you will grope about like a blind person in the dark. You will be unsuccessful in everything you do; day after day you will be oppressed and robbed, with no one to rescue you. You will be pledged to be married to a woman, but another will take her and rape her... Your sons and daughters will be given to another nation, and you will wear out your eyes watching for them day after day, powerless to lift a hand... you will have nothing but cruel oppression all your days. The sights you see will drive you mad. The Lord will afflict your knees and legs with painful boils that cannot be cured, spreading from the soles of your feet to the top of your head."
So to sum all that up, if we don't do exactly as he says he will make our lives a living hell and torture us until the day we die, and then after we die he will sentence us to eternal torment in hell. Does that sound like the actions of a kind and loving god to you? After reading all that do you really think we should get our morality from the Bible?
What difference does it make what testament it is in? I'm not arguing that the Bible says homosexuality is okay, because it doesn't. What I'm arguing is that we shouldn't get our morality from the Bible.
It's true because "it says so". Got it, that makes perfect sense. How could I be so foolish to doubt the truth of the Bible when it says right in the Bible that it's true. Silly me.
Typical B.S. argument a creationist would make to get out of using evidence. You could say that for any belief, you could say that the reason why there is no evidence for the flying spaghetti monster is that he is testing our faith it just makes no sense.
I have serious doubts that you are really a Christian and have a strong suspicion that you are really just a poe, but for now I will give you the benefit of the doubt. You keep posting the same verses over and over and down-voting everyone that disagrees with you, but when I challenge you on them you don't respond. So from now on every time you post those verses I will copy and paste this argument until I get a response.
Leviticus also says...
"Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death."
“Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed."
“Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material."
"Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard."
“If a man has sexual relations with a woman during her monthly period, he has exposed the source of her flow, and she has also uncovered it. Both of them are to be cut off from their people."
Sorry but I don't take quotes from the Bible any more seriously than I take quotes from Harry Potter. The Bible is the last place we should be getting our morality from. The god described in the Bible is one of the most immoral beings man has ever dreamed up.
1. He says slavery is okay (Leviticus 25:44-46).
2. He says it's okay to beat your slaves as long as they survive the beating for a few days (Exodus 21:20-21).
3. He says selling your daughters as slaves and/or wives is okay (Exodus 21:7).
4. He tells his followers to make entire cities into slaves or kill them if they don't cooperate and keep the women as "plunder" (Deut 20:10-15)
5. He kills people for trying to be helpful (2 Samuel 6:3-7)
6. He and his followers go on massive killing sprees numerous times throughout the Bible, often killing children and animals. (1 Samuel 15:2-3, Joshua 8:1-29, Joshua 6:20-21, Judges 20:23-48, 2 Kings 19:35, Jeremiah 50:21-22, etc.)
This next passage shows just how depraved the Biblical god is. It's very long so I trimmed it some to keep it a reasonable length.
Deuteronomy 28:15-68 "Moses and the elders of Israel commanded the people... if you do not obey the Lord your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come on you and overtake you: You will be cursed in the city and cursed in the country... The fruit of your womb will be cursed, and the crops of your land, and the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks... The Lord will send on you curses, confusion and rebuke in everything you put your hand to, until you are destroyed and come to sudden ruin because of the evil you have done in forsaking him. The Lord will plague you with diseases until he has destroyed you from the land you are entering to possess. The Lord will strike you with wasting disease, with fever and inflammation, with scorching heat and drought, with blight and mildew, which will plague you until you perish... The Lord will turn the rain of your country into dust and powder; it will come down from the skies until you are destroyed. The Lord will cause you to be defeated before your enemies... and you will become a thing of horror to all the kingdoms on earth. Your carcasses will be food for all the birds and the wild animals... The Lord will afflict you with the boils of Egypt and with tumors, festering sores and the itch, from which you cannot be cured. The Lord will afflict you with madness, blindness and confusion of mind. At midday you will grope about like a blind person in the dark. You will be unsuccessful in everything you do; day after day you will be oppressed and robbed, with no one to rescue you. You will be pledged to be married to a woman, but another will take her and rape her... Your sons and daughters will be given to another nation, and you will wear out your eyes watching for them day after day, powerless to lift a hand... you will have nothing but cruel oppression all your days. The sights you see will drive you mad. The Lord will afflict your knees and legs with painful boils that cannot be cured, spreading from the soles of your feet to the top of your head."
So to sum all that up, if we don't do exactly as he says he will make our lives a living hell and torture us until the day we die, and then after we die he will sentence us to eternal torment in hell. Does that sound like the actions of a kind and loving god to you? After reading all that do you really think we should get our morality from the Bible?
