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If you end up burning in Hell forever with no way out, you certainly will be experiencing totalitarianism with only fire, no government to appeal to. You will be able to think and say whatever you want to most of the time, and you will remember the times people like me tried tell you how you could have been saved by believing on Jesus Christ in His resurrection and repenting of your sin and receiving Him by faith as your Savior.
If you are born of the Spirt of God when you receive Jesus Christ as your Savior, sin's totalitarian rule will be limited to your sin stricken body and you will be free of it completely, to be with and like Jesus in His resurrection forever...in perfect freedom, perfect joy, perfect peace and you will gladly and exuberantly speak honor and praise to His name and happily do whatever He asks you to do because in Him, it's all good, so good you can't even imagine it when your pile of dust called your body still carries air in it's sin stricke blood.
GenericName(3475) ............ preaches that the human has no basic rights,
no freedom of thought,
There is indeed freedom of thought , though I will admit to not thinking correctly which leads to eternal torture trying to think correctly . That said, one still has the "freedom" to think "incorrectly".
God created me, that's why I'm here. Why are you here?
You did lie about things I said in that other debate, (ok, I'll give you the benefit of a doubt and say you didn't realize you were twisting my words and using your twisted version of things I said to try to slander me).and I banned you for that and for not explaining why you feel God does not love you rather than why you believe there is no God. Atheistic arguments are self-negating when it comes to discussing God's love. I decided to ban them all because they are tiring. I was hoping somebody would be honest and say something like "God did not do this or that for me, or God allowed this or that to happen and it made me suffer or cry and that's why I believe God does not love me". That debate required allowance for the reality of God. I have done that debate one hundred, maybe two hundred times and only found one person honest enough to explain how his feelings were hurt so that he believed God did not love him. All I got was atheistic hatred of God and got tired of it and banned them all. You got banned for twisting my words and insisting I said things I did not say....lying or simply amazingly careless about certifying facts. I never directly answered you because everything I said, and the way you twisted my words to imply I said things I did not say, is still there for anybody to see.
You need to get saved or you are going to end up just like your icon picture except instead of sitting there, you will be writhing in the agony of the heat.
You did lie about things I said in that other debate,
I quoted you, and multiple other people quoted me quoting you.
and I banned you for that and for not explaining why you feel God does not love you rather than why you believe there is no God.
Except I never did that. From the very first post I put on your debate, I explained why I do not believe the Judeo-Christian god loves the individual. You are so wrapped up in your proselytizing that you don't bother to actually read what people are saying to you.
I decided to ban them all because they are tiring. I was hoping somebody would be honest and say something like "God did not do this or that for me, or God allowed this or that to happen and it made me suffer or cry and that's why I believe God does not love me". That debate required allowance for the reality of God. I have done that debate one hundred, maybe two hundred times and only found one person honest enough to explain how his feelings were hurt so that he believed God did not love him.
So on a debate website, you banned people because they would not agree with most of your beliefs. You didn't like the answers you got, again, on a debate website, so you banned everyone. So I ask you again: why are you here on a debate website if you won't debate?
You got banned for twisting my words and insisting I said things I did not say
I fucking quoted you.
I never directly answered you because everything I said, and the way you twisted my words to imply I said things I did not say, is still there for anybody to see.
Which is why so many people quoted myself quoting you to demonstrate that you are wrong.
You need to get saved or you are going to end up just like your icon picture except instead of sitting there, you will be writhing in the agony of the heat.
That picture is Hades, the Greek god of the Underworld from the Hercules movie. Oh, and your last sentence is exactly why I can see with confidence that the Abrahamic god does not love the individual.
you took two or three of my words and framed your own sentences around those words, and made up meanings which were not in what I said.
You never copy and pasted any complete sentence from me in the thing you are talking about. You only took two or three words out of a sentence or two and then put your own words around them and accused me of saying what you said I said. It's hard for me to give you the benefit of a doubt and say you were just being rash and responding carelessly and really didn't intend to be a bold face liar inventing false allegations and accusations. I'm not going to discuss this with you any more. If you keep going, I'll withdraw my benefit of doubt and call you a liar simply for your refusal to look at the facts and for your insistence that you are being truthful and trying to slander me repeatedly.
For the life of me, I do not know why this is so diffuclt for you.
This is a quote, from you:"The debate is valid, I have offered validations of the fact that God loves you and I invite you to explain why you believe God does not love you. If this is too much of a challenge to be considered acceptable for this site, I would have to say it's a small-minded site, with all due respect."
I provided you that quote, as everyone can see and as people pointed out to you. None of it was twisting anything, or making up meanings, or ANYTHING. I simply quoted you. That's all. Complete sentences, uncut, unedited, everything.
Of course you won't recognize this, because that means admitting you were wrong and hypocritical.
What's your problem? You want to wake up in fire like your icon pic? You think you are good in it? You're a punk, just a smart mouth punk and I keep trying to get you off my back.
If you keep on me, I'm going to keep on telling you that you are in imminent danger of the fire of Hell with one foot in the grave and the other melting on thin ice over Hell's fire. You're just a punk. If you were in my house now, I would ask you to leave and if you didn't start moving toward the door you would be pushed and pushed hard. Just a punk.
I thought you were dying? How can you say anything for the life of you when you are dying? All that means is what you say is not worth much....for the life of you. You are losing your life dying, so whatever you say isn't helping, is it?
You don't know what "Christianity" really is. The term "Christian" was invented by non-Christians to label those who believed on the deity and bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ, often showing their belief by refusing to recant their testimony when faced with torture and death by various means. The term Christian was accepted by Christians as sufficient for terminology, even though a non-Christian does not really know what a Christian really is. You have to be one to know what it is. I was a non-Christian very much like you and everybody else here, saying and doing pretty much the same things. I can't go back to being a non-Christian because I am a new creature born of the Spirit of God. There's a new me which is going to be exactly like Jesus in His heaven one day, never polluted by the poison of sin again because He took my sins on Himself and buried them. I will be free of it all soon forever and I'll gladly bow at Jesus' nail pierce feet and give Him all the honor and glory and praise He deserves for creating me and dying in my place to save me.
The world of unbelievers thinks "Christiany" is a religion. To a person who has turned away from and against their sins and believed on the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ and received Him by faith, calling on God to save them from Hell, "Christianity" is being in the kingdom of Heaven, ruled by Jesus Christ. He is my King, I am His servant, He bought me with His life's blood and sealed that purchase by His resurrection. He is my life and His life is eternal, I have eternal life, I am born of God's Spirit.
You have to be born again to be a Christian. "Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of heaven".
Jesus Christ is glorified as God by God Himself and needs no defense from me or from you, but I will defend with my life the faith of God that is given to me.
Go ahead, ignore what words mean. Ignore what the definition of Christianity is, ignore what the definition of religion is. Then go ahead and repeat the exact same thing over and over and over as you are doing.
Dying means you are in your sin, separated from God. Lost means you are lost to death. Justice is when you get what you deserve. Mercy is when you don't get what you deserve. Squirrels are critters scrambling your brain so you think you have the right to exist outside of Hell as a sinner.
You are the one ignoring what words me, choosing the wrong interpretations because you can manage them better to ease your guilt so you feel like you are not on your way to Hell.
Go ahead, ignore what words mean. Ignore what the Bible says a Christian is, and believe the dictionary definition instead of the Book of Christ, The Bible........ignore the fact that religion is not reality and knowing God is living in reality. Then go ahead and repeat the exact same thing over and over and over as you are doing.
You are not the defender of Christianity in any time or any way. You are a wolf in sheep's clothing if you pretend to defend Christianity. Be born again, repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and take up your cross to follow Jesus, and accept whatever suffering He leads you through with thanksgiving, and then you can talk about defending the faith. You are trying to get in the back door like a thief. Jesus is the door. He's the only way into the kingdom of Heaven. Through Him or you ain't getting in, and your defense of Christianity is no better than a snake in the grass.
Of course, you have a bullying dictator that supposedly plans out everyone's life. Literally by definition in Christianity God has total control of everything (and for some reason says he's trying to keep free will).
Firstly, I always find it extremely amusing to note that most smart Alec's on such forums as this almost always take a poke at Christianity and avoid making any reference to the greatest evil of our times, i.e, Islam. Islam promotes primitive ignorance, mutilation of the human body, deadly violence against ''infidels'' ( all those who don't believe in the Islamic faith) and cause death and destruction in every country they infest. As we read this, ( if any one actually is) we can be sure that in every country which welcomed Muslims to live in their midst, there will be a significant number of the filth plotting some horrendous deed of massacre and destruction. Make any statement questioning their outrageously 'totalitarian' and primitive religion and there will be 1000s of hysterical Muslims running around blowing men woman and children to smithereens. NOW, boys and girls there is a fanatical religion which deserves ridicule. But the wimps opt to go for the easy, ''turn the other cheek'' Christians. On the other side of the coin to that, Christianity states that if you don't love and worship their god every day you will burn in hell forever. Now, there's a loving god if ever I heard of one.
There is indeed freedom of thought in Christianity, though I will admit it is a bit of a ruse, since not thinking correctly leads to eternal torture. That said, one still has the "freedom" to think "incorrectly".
no freedom of opinion
A form of freedom of thought, but I will elaborate on this by pointing to the hundreds of Christian sects that seem to imply freedom of opinion on theological matters, at least to an extent.
and must conform to everything in the Bible.
This leads back to freedom of thought. One can choose not to adhere to the Bible for the entirety of one's life, though I acknowledge that, according to the Bible, one will be punished for it. Still, one is not prevented from acting in a way that leads to said punishment.
I vote you down because you are going down to Hell and maybe a down vote or two will wake you up to see your predicament and need of God's mercy to believe on His Son who gave His life for you, offering you forgiveness now and forever in His resurrection if you will receive Him by faith as your Savior.
Christianity is simply too broad of a belief system to classify it as totalitarian. That conclusion would only really follow if the Christian God were not only real but autocratic, and I would contend that the Christian God neither exists nor is consistently construed as being autocratic. If a totalitarian government were also a Christian theocracy perhaps an argument could be made, however I should think that Christianity is more incidental to the form of governance rather than the other way around (otherwise all countries with Christians in any remarkable number would be totalitarian).
There are Christians who do not believe in Hell and they question the validity of certain stories or passages in the Bible. The good Christians don't have any hatred in their hearts and they believe in helping the poor.
Christianity preaches that the human has no basic rights
There are clear examples of human rights in the bible.
no freedom of thought
You are free to think how you wish, but will be judged on those wishes along with your deeds
no freedom of opinion
No opinion? You are fully allowed to speak your mind and have your own opinion on things.
and must conform to everything in the Bible
You do not conform to everything in the bible. Somethings in the bible are not mean to be conformed to. Some are. You are not required, or forced, to do anything.
You are required to give account of every moment of your time to God. You will be forced to appear before the Judgment Seat of Christ. In Hell, every knee will bow willingly or by force, and every tongue will confess willingly or by force that Jesus Christ is Lord.
You talk like you think you are the word of God yourself. Quit trying to be your own Bible.
You are required to give account of every moment of your time to God. You will be forced to appear before the Judgment Seat of Christ. In Hell, every knee will bow willingly or by force, and every tongue will confess willingly or by force that Jesus Christ is Lord.
What does this have to do with what I said? I'm not seeing the correlation. Explanation please, if you don't mind?
You talk like you think you are the word of God yourself. Quit trying to be your own Bible.
I speak as if I know my stuff maybe, but I would never speak as if I was God nor do I try to be my own bible. I merely say what I know based off of my knowledge. Is this some sort of debate tactic you use?
what you said was half truths which makes me think you do not know the truth at all. Everybody is required and forced to say Jesus Christ is Lord in Hell. In Heaven it's said by all willingly and joyfully. I don't think you know your stuff at all. You just make things up as you go along.
Most of what people are saying is not worth paying attention to....they talk too much and listen too little, like you. The first thing you need to know is that you are in danger of the fire of Hell. If I can't lead you into realizing that, and believing on the Savior, what good is it if I listen to everything you say? I heard more than enough of your junk.
I wasn't talking to you. I responded to the guy who said you are not required to do anything.....that space cadet star-cruiser or whatever his name is. You have a lot of trouble listening and getting the facts straight, don't you?
He said we are not required or forced to do anything, a very silly statement put forth as if it's authoritative when it is void of common sense and full of ignorance of facts.
Maybe you will just admit that you have a problem that's bugging you and you are trying to blame me for it. How did you get this way?
I wasn't talking to you. I responded to the guy who said you are not required to do anything.....that space cadet star-cruiser or whatever his name is. You have a lot of trouble listening and getting the facts straight, don't you?
He said we are not required or forced to do anything, a very silly statement put forth as if it's authoritative when it is void of common sense and full of ignorance of facts.
Maybe you will just admit that you have a problem that's bugging you and you are trying to blame me for it. How did you get this way?
I wasn't talking to you. I responded to the guy who said you are not required to do anything.....that space cadet star-cruiser or whatever his name is. You have a lot of trouble listening and getting the facts straight, don't you?
Ironic. I made it obvious that I was referring to a comment you made to another person. Read my comment again:
"You are paying zero attention to what people are saying. Not a single thing you just said makes sense as a response to Starchild."
Very ironic indeed.
He said we are not required or forced to do anything, a very silly statement put forth as if it's authoritative when it is void of common sense and full of ignorance of facts.
Starchild's comment is supported by both your theology and hers. You keep claiming that people choose to go to hell, yet when she points out people aren't forced (another way of saying something you keep repeating), you say she is void of common sense and full of ignorance of facts. That makes absolutely no sense.
Maybe you will just admit that you have a problem that's bugging you and you are trying to blame me for it. How did you get this way?
And which problem is that, specifically? And how have I tried to blame you for anything other than banning me, specifically?
Hey....I have a joke for you.....this guy named General in Flames walks into a bar with an atheist. The atheist says "let's get some alcohol" the General in Flames says, "no thanks, I'm already on fire and the alcohol might make it hotter".
I'm sorry, you'll have to repeat that, you seem to be on fire and are not coming across clearly. Maybe you'll be clear after a couple hundred more attempts.
The following exchange is where you seem to have specifically gotten confused. Carefully note how your reply fails completely to relate at all to my post: Idiot .
I wasn't talking to you. I responded to the guy who said you are not required to do anything.....that space cadet star-cruiser or whatever his name is. You have a lot of trouble listening and getting the facts straight, don't you?
