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Suicide-better than Survival No Suicide is a Crime
Debate Score:33
Arguments:25
Total Votes:36
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Is Committing Suicide - A Better Option?

As we can see, currently Suicide has become a common option for the Youths to End their Life, Rather than getting back in to the Race of Surviving. Pen Down Your Heartfelt Views On What You think is Better and how to Deal.

Suicide-better than Survival

Side Score: 22
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No Suicide is a Crime

Side Score: 11
4 points

I live in a doctor assisted legal suicide state. If I ever find myself with a terminal illness going downhill with nothing but misery ahead I'll be taking the easy way out and I don't give two shits about anybody who doesn't like it.

Side: Suicide-better than Survival
2 points

You won't find me wasting away on life support slowly dying in subservience to your wacky supernatural twisted up belief system.

Side: Suicide-better than Survival

You won't find me wasting away on life support slowly dying in subservience to your wacky supernatural twisted up belief system.

Have you noticed that suicide is a supposed sin that stops you getting into heaven?

I'm convinced that rule was invented just to stop people killing themselves so they can be with God. If that were allowed it would have killed Christianity stone dead because it's a belief system based entirely on the idea that everything gets better after you die -- as long as you do what the nice man in white says while you're still alive.

Side: Suicide-better than Survival
Jace(5188) Clarified
1 point

It's not just theists who oppose voluntary euthenasia and suicide. Have gotten plenty of this shit from 'humanists' too.

Side: Suicide-better than Survival
1 point

Than an incumbent losing an election?? It's something to think about Donnie. ;-)

Side: Suicide-better than Survival

Bodily choice, is an absolute, human right, if forced death is wrogng, so is forced life. Pro force people, who want to use bodily force, are not different, than a rapist, I have thhe right to choose, how and when, I die, and not a thing, can change my mind. My body, my choice.

Side: Suicide-better than Survival
Jace(5188) Clarified
1 point

if forced death is wrogng, so is forced life

You're an anti-natalist?

Side: Suicide-better than Survival
0 points

Although some people propound that propagation is the strongest human instinct the opinion of most sociobiologists consider that the most powerful human driving force to be that of survival.

When faced with what appears to be a hopelessly insolvable personal catastrophe people can often find a resilience and inner resources of character strength which they never knew they possessed and that will enable them to overcome ''the slings and arrows'' which we will all experience in our journey through life.

Side: Suicide-better than Survival
1 point

Although some people propound that propagation is the strongest human instinct

Some people suffer from narcissistic personality disorders which compel them to find the most grandiloquent ways they possibly can to explain the most simple ideas.

Side: No Suicide is a Crime
Jace(5188) Disputed
1 point

Given that there are also people who kill themselves and that they are as much produced by evolution as those who do not, your analysis here lacks explanatory force.

Side: Suicide-better than Survival
1 point

your analysis here lacks explanatory force.

Lol. Do you have even the slightest idea how ridiculous the things you write are? You sound like a 12 year old girl trying to impress her English teacher.

Side: No Suicide is a Crime

Pen Down Your Heartfelt Views On What You think is Better and how to Deal.

How about we stop the system from failing these individuals? Did anybody ever consider that as a possibility?

Unfortunately, the psychopaths in power believe that you should serve the system, rather than the system serving you and your needs. I am afraid the heartbreaking attitude of these people is the ultimate problem which must be overcome in order to reduce suicide rates.

Side: No Suicide is a Crime
Jace(5188) Disputed
1 point

Even a system that served people as well as possible would be incapable of serving everyone such that suicide would never be a better option than continuing to exist. There is some suffering that cannot be ended by any other option and there are some people who are not inclined to endure that. There's nothing obviously or necessarily valuable about existence anyways.

Side: Suicide-better than Survival
Scrotumlord(49) Disputed
0 points

It is a better option for burrito. Burrito likes to gobble butt holes. Burrito called me a "whole ass snack" in PM and said he would lick my booty.

Side: Suicide-better than Survival
BurritoLunch(6607) Clarified
0 points

It is a better option for burrito. Burrito likes to gobble butt holes. Burrito called me a "whole ass snack" in PM and said he would lick my booty.

Have your parents made you find a job yet?

Side: Suicide-better than Survival

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Most people that are taken to a hospital because of a suicide attempt usually don't repeat the attempt when the get back home.

Today's youth are not handling the current state of the world very well, that's why getting therapy is such an important aspect to reducing attempts, and also teaching people how to handle circumstances that out of their control and focus on the aspects that are.

The other mayor factor is that depression is on the rise and that's the thing that's missing from this discussion. Depression is very debilitating condition, it's not something someone can willpower out of, and that a lot of times leads to suicide attempts. Again, this is something that a therapist/psychiatrist is trained to handle. What I feel the big issue is, is that access to mental health services in the US are prohibitively expensive which is exacerbating the problem, but that a discussion for another time.

Side: No Suicide is a Crime

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

I like that. That's a good line.

Side: No Suicide is a Crime
1 point

No. But then it depends on the situation.

Side: No Suicide is a Crime
1 point

it takes courage to do suicide but honestly i feel taking an alternate route like counsulting specialists or close family members is a better option as choosing suicide will not only affect the mental health of a person's family as well as for the media to share the news of more suicides therefore encouraging those in a similar situation to choose this path

Side: No Suicide is a Crime
Rusticus(811) Disputed
2 points

Apparently you've never had to deal with a terminally ill family member who's slowly dying. It can go on for many years. Their loved ones are often left bankrupt. You look at the dying patent and it's obvious they aren't there anymore. No brain activity. It's just a shell lying there month after month, year after year. It's devastating. Yes, once in a great while somebody in a vegetative state wakes up. Good for them but that's no excuse to sentence all families to this. All the Christians hoot and holler about how God is in charge. I would say that if God actually is in charge he's one twisted son of a bitch.

Side: Suicide-better than Survival
Jace(5188) Disputed
1 point

I hate this argument. It is intolerably selfish and hypocritical to suppose that you are entitled to the existence of another being at the expense of their suffering and strictly to avoid your own suffering.

Side: Suicide-better than Survival