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Debate Score:40
Arguments:32
Total Votes:48
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Is Conservatism Breathing Its Dying Breaths?

It seems to me that the only people who ostensibly take this failed ideology seriously these days are those being paid to take it seriously. Most others are intelligent enough to understand that tax cuts for the super rich do not help ordinary people.

Such is the wanton lunacy that Conservatism has devolved into over the past few decades, they are left trying to argue that bribing their corporate friends helps those their corporate friends are in direct economic competition with.

I believe that once society develops the emotional intelligence to see through the lies and distortions of Conservatives it will become a dead ideology. Evolution will kill Conservatism.

Yes

Side Score: 21
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Side Score: 19
2 points

Humanity itself is breathing its last breaths...............................................

Side: Yes
1 point

I hate to say, it could be. I'm a "moderate liberal" that realizes we need a conservative buffer. But, not a bunch of radical cons like we have now! These cons are CRAZY! The President is NOT a conservative in real life, but, the only place he can get followers is the far right wing. The Evangelical right wing that doesn't worry about supporting a "President" that has NEVER shown that he believes in their "God", as long as he pushes their agenda forward, (abortion, a theological Constitution where the Bible is in control. [not what the founding fathers had in mind], and NO separation between church and state). Trump (alt-conservatism), is not an "evangelical", but they will defend him to their dying breaths ... or ours!

Side: Yes
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Bowel Al of Road Island when is the date of the Progressives deaths because Killary was a piss poor candidate ? The Messiah of the Progressives there Bowel Al was "Boy King" Obama. Now dispute that if you will Bowel Al !

Side: No
Rick_Zeta5A(348) Disputed
1 point

If we could just eliminate all the people that have that thought, then you would all be justified and we could get on with things here on Earth. Win/win

Side: Yes

As long as we can keep theology out of the biology and physics classes, I can see no reason why conservatism would last any longer than a few more years.

Side: Yes
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Progressive are looking for a Totalitarian Country ? Theology , Biology and Physics cannot face your dream of a dicktator in America !

Side: No
2 points

I predict Trump will get re-elected in 2020 ;)

Side: No
NumberOne(422) Disputed
3 points

I predict Trump will get re-elected in 2020 ;)

God, I hope not.

Side: Yes
1 point

4 more years of entertainment! Wait..., are you not entertained yet? ;)

Side: Yes
1 point

What do you say conservatism is?

How is this different from what conservatives say conservatism is?

Do conservatives even agree on this?

Maybe conservative is such a relative label that it doesn't really mean anything. Maybe liberal isn't really much different.

These politics are clearly based off of identity fallacies. The natural result of this is that political discussion tends to look insane to anyone who doesn't buy into that stuff.

Why do you believe these people who claim to represent populations of people? Who elected them anything? Not me. They don't represent me. Who are you listening to? Not me.

Something about this just seems inherently oppressive.

Side: No
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Is Conservatism Breathing Its Dying Breaths?

Actually, it appears to be gaining traction

It seems to me that the only people who ostensibly take this failed ideology seriously these days are those being paid to take it seriously. Most others are intelligent enough to understand that tax cuts for the super rich do not help ordinary people.

Such is the wanton lunacy that Conservatism has devolved into over the past few decades, they are left trying to argue that bribing their corporate friends helps those their corporate friends are in direct economic competition with.

You have been on this Forum plenty long enough to understand this is a complete straw-man of "Conservatism"

I believe that once society develops the emotional intelligence to see through the lies and distortions of Conservatives it will become a dead ideology. Evolution will kill Conservatism.

Actually, people are starting to catch onto the "lies" of Neo-Marxism & Progressiveism

Side: No
Rick_Zeta5A(348) Disputed
1 point

“Actually, people are starting to catch onto the "lies" of Neo-Marxism & Progressivism”

This is a bloody moronic statement for a couple of reasons, Neo Marxism I assume is functional socialism, which is all over North America in places that provide health care socialized insurance. The second that Companies became subsidized by the US, that is socialism. The taxpayers were also on the hook for the housing crisis that Republicans set into action with Bush Jr.s genius.

The overall mental acuity for truth in politics in the US is skewed beyond belief. The dumbest argument by far I’ve ever seen is that progressivism is in repute. The definition of that word politically is refined opinions of either party, to have a bipartisan view and meld it with other views. It’s like saying “duhhhh, stuff that progresses is stupid, having new opinions based on new factual ideas is against god, duhhhhhh”

Side: Yes
xMathFanx(1743) Disputed
1 point

@Rick_Zeta5A

Neo Marxism I assume is functional socialism, which is all over North America in places that provide health care socialized insurance.

Wrong..

which is all over North America in places that provide health care socialized insurance. The second that Companies became subsidized by the US, that is socialism.

Wrong again..

The dumbest argument by far I’ve ever seen is that progressivism is in repute.

It doesn't appear you understand what 'Progressivism' stands for, nor why this is so highly problematic. I hate to say it, though in truth, you give the most awful impression of one that has never read the arguments from the opposing side(s)

Side: No
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Is Conservatism Breathing Its Dying Breaths?

Hello Number:

Nahhh.... But Tea Partyism is... They're not conservatives anyway.. Conservatives would NOT have passed a budget that breaks the back of the economy... But, they just did..

With the exception of REAL conservatives like Jeff Flake and Rand Paul, they said FUCK the deficit.

excon

Side: No

No, neither liberalism nor conservatism is dying. However, I would say that all third parties are dying and unbiased media is dying.

Side: No
1 point

Conservatism is all but dead. In its place is a savage tribe of radicalized psychotic right wingnuts that no true conservative would bother to piss on even if they were on fire.

Side: No
1 point

Or enough voters to win a Presidential election...

Side: Yes
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ROFLOL, you must be working for the Democrat Party to spew such utter hogwash!

In case you just missed the last year, TRUMP WON THE ELECTION! He is as Conservative as we have seen, and the people chose him over this insanely extreme political correct fanaticism from Liberals in the Democrat party!

It is liberalism that is dying THANK GOD!

FINALLY OUR ECONOMY IS BOOMING! The Left hates Trump for showing how eight long years of an anemic economy and failed Liberal ideology, can be totally transformed in one short year of Conservatism. The American people are witnessing the truth and will see through the lies from the Left.

Trump is 100% proving everything Conservatives have been saying about the free market and lower taxes. IT CREATES JOBS, REDUCES GOVERNMENT DEPENDENCE, AND LIFTS ALL SHIPS!

You can spew the same ludicrous lie of how the tax cuts only helped the Rich until your deceptive life ends, and it only shows the absolute deception from the left.

For decades the Socialist Left has been pushing this same lie to the people. Every election cycle we hear the same rhetoric. With every single tax cut from the GOP brings forth the lies of how the GOP only cares for the Rich!

The Left hates tax cuts for the working man because that money is used to buy their low income vote! The Democrat Party uses the working American to fund their socialist agendas.

You are mind numbmingly stupid to keep repeating the lies from the Left. Are you on welfare or working for the Democrat Party? No one else could spew such lunacy.

The working man is right now getting bigger pay checks thanks to the tax cuts you total fool!

The first $24,000 of a working mans paycheck is no longer federally taxed. How does that help the Rich you waste of time liar?

They just doubled the child tax credit for families. HOW DOES THAT ONLY HELP THE RICH?

They just lowered the tax brackets for people making up to $86,000 to 12%! How does that help the Rich?

The lower corporate tax rates spurs our economy and brings jobs back to America, but fools like you can't grasp that simple fact. You want that money to pay for career welfare recipients, so you have lifelong voters. The Left's goal is always keeping people on welfare, NOT GETTING THEM OFF IT!

Obviously you are another fool making ludicrous statements to try and garner points on this site. GET A LIFE!

Side: No
NumberOne(422) Disputed
3 points

ROFLOL, you must be working for the Democrat Party

ROFLOL, you beat your own kids you sick fuck.

Get out of my thread, you child-abusing twat.

Side: Yes
NomsGremlin(79) Disputed
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ROFLOL, you beat your own kids you sick fuck.

Get out of my thread, you child-abusing twat.

But you abuse animals though.

Side: No
AlofRI(3274) Disputed
1 point

"TRUMP WON THE ELECTION!" No, Garymandering propaganda, Comey and Putin won the election. Most Americans voted the other way. Only those who saw what they wanted to see, most of which was lies), on the internet and right wing media (the Putin-wing media) voted for Trump.

Funny. Trump believes EVERYONE that is conservative OR a dictator when they "strongly deny" things they have been accused of ... "You have to consider that"! .... unless it's Hillary Clinton denying something.

The economy was "booming" when he took it over, but far less volatile, as was the world.

Side: Yes
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
0 points

Bowel Al i enjoy flushing you every morning. Propaganda got Trump elected now did it ? Bowel Al where was all the Russian Propaganda when Obama defeated Hillary ?

Bowel Al you say the economy was booming under Obama can you point to the greatest of a President that never reached 3 percent GDP growth ? Only President in history not to achieve that.

Side: No
Antrim(1286) Clarified
1 point

Shouldn't have taken the agitator's bait.

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Side: Yes
FromWithin(8240) Clarified Banned
0 points

I like posting the truth to any person making the mistake of reading this loser's debate.

In time he will become irrelevant and fade away as with most Liberals. They have a failing joke of an ideology and people are finally waking up to all the fake news.

Side: Yes
Rick_Zeta5A(348) Disputed
1 point

Your not smart enough to know that all of the collected state and federal tax from ‘the working man’ doesn’t even equal 10% of the GDP of the country and less than .1% of the debt?

Side: Yes