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Is Ending Birthright Citizenship Unconstitutional?

Some Republican candidates running for President want to end birthright citizenship in reference to the children born in the United States but whose parents are illegal immigrants.

 

Question:  Is ending birthright citizenship unconstitutional?

 

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We are having this debate in Australia at the moment about removing the passports and citizenship of people who leave the country to fight with ISIS etc etc.

The legal / constitutional debate continues as we speak.

Side: Yes
Jace(5222) Clarified
1 point

That is a different debate entirely; it concerns revoking citizenship not bestowing it. It also pertains to people going to fight for a foreign entity against the interests of the nation they hold citizenship in, rather than people coming to live in a nation where they do not currently hold citizenship.

Side: Yes
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Yes, it is a plot to dehumanize them. You say someone is not a citizen and automatically all their rights are stripped. Just look at what we call illegal people. We call them illegal aliens. It's a lot easier for people to get behind you and criminalize people, when you don't even call them people. I come from two illegal parents and I have been a proud American my whole life. You say we don't assimilate and that's completely false. You say we survive off of welfare and steal your money and jobs and that's also completely false. There is no other reason that most republicans are trying to get rid of us other than fear. They were against gay marriage because of fear, they are against some women's rights out of fear. They don't want to ban guns out of fear. I have no idea why they fear the majority of us, but we are not hear to harm any Americans or the American way. We are here to be a part of it and help the country grow as we ourselves grow economically.

Side: Yes
Jace(5222) Clarified
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While I agree that views on immigration and immigrants themselves are dehumanizing, problematic, and incorrect... that does not speak to whether the proposed action of ending birthright citizenship would be unconstitutional.

Side: Yes
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NO ----- Not if you change the constitution.

Which contains the misused provision within the 14th amendment.

Side: No
GenericName(3430) Clarified
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How do you figure that it is "misused" when taken literally?

Side: Yes
1 point

The 14th amendment is only for slavery. You stupid liberals think that the constitution is supposed to protect people. It is ridiculous to take a literal interpretation. /endsarcasm

Side: No
daver(1771) Clarified
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Misused refers to fact that this provision of the 14th was NOT about so called anchor-babies. Given the evolution in the use and meaning of words and terms over a span of hundreds of years, there is little wisdom in looking toward current meanings to interpret original intent. Original intent is how the constitution should be interpreted.

Side: Yes
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As much as I hate the issue with illegal immigrants this is what I have to say about it.

Amendment XIV

Section 1.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. (Seems pretty legit to me, our founding fathers pretty much said that ALL PEOPLE born on USA soil are citizens) No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Side: Yes
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As I understand it the proposal is not to write a new law but to amend the Constitution, and since the process of amendment is itself Constitutional there is no conflict.

Side: No
Jace(5222) Clarified
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That said... I am curious: what, exactly, are advocates of this policy suggesting we replace our current provisions with? If citizenship is not established by birth then how is it conferred to anyone?

Side: Yes