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Debate Score:360
Arguments:276
Total Votes:413
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Is Gay Marriage a Civil Right?

Yes

Side Score: 183
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No

Side Score: 177
4 points

Sort of. There is supposed to be equal protection under the law. If we give some couples benefits for being together we need to give it to the rest.

Side: Yes
QuestionMan(604) Disputed
2 points

Sort of. There is supposed to be equal protection under the law. If we give some couples benefits for being together we need to give it to the rest.

Talking about the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause? That was talking about slavery.

Side: No
Cartman(18192) Disputed
2 points

So, you want to treat gays like slaves then?

Side: Yes
1 point

Honestly I could care less if it was about slavery!! The point is gay marriage is and should be a civil right. People have the right to have a religion or to not have one. We live in a country that is support to separate church and state, marriage can be defined as both. Nobody is hurting you by other people getting married..

Side: Yes

People have the right to make their own choices as long as they don't force their beliefs on other people or hurt anyone.

Side: Yes
2 points

People have the right to make their own choices as long as they don't force their beliefs on other people or hurt anyone.

Do you think the government should be in it?

Side: Yes
1 point

I only believe the government has the right to protect life and essential liberty with essential liberty defined as the right to not be murdered, tortured, or otherwise abused. Any government function outside of that is tyranny, so its a yes and no question.

Side: Yes
BigOats(1400) Disputed
1 point

Well the LGBT people have made the wrong choice: to force their beliefs on the majority of the population through their lobbies in the senate / government / states.

The majority of Americans do not support gay marriage.

Side: No
2 points

No the antigay people have no right to force their beliefs on gays. Gays have the right to get married.

Side: Yes
3 points

Ugh, look assholes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MarriageintheUnitedStates#Marriageasafundamentalright

So fuck you and your "lets outsmart everyone by saying oh lol marriage on its own isn't a right, so gay marriage isn't either."

Mind telling me what the fuck that link shows? And for the morons out there (clearly far too many) you might wanna scroll down to the "marriage as a fundamental right" section. Just saying.

I mean seriously, is it that fucking hard to look for a list of rights? Or have you all stopped using reason and just making up false facts and statistics?

Side: Yes
3 points

Ugh look, assholes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MarriageintheUnitedStates#Marriageasafundamentalright

So fuck you and your "lets outsmart everyone by saying oh lol marriage on its own isn't a right, so gay marriage isn't either."

Mind telling me what the fuck that link shows? And for the morons out there (clearly far too many) you might wanna scroll down to the "marriage as a fundamental right" section. Just saying.

I mean seriously, is it that fucking hard to look for a list of rights? Or have you all stopped using reason and just making up false facts and statistics?

Side: Yes
1 point

Ugh I don't even care it posted this twice... Might drum it in.

Side: Yes
Jc41218(1558) Disputed
0 points

Homosexuality is a sin.

Side: No
Jungelson(3954) Disputed
3 points

Hey are you religious?? I do hope it's something good like, oh I don't know, Evangelical Christian, or Jew, then I can have a real controversial bitch at you.

Besides, the "bible" says that you should" love thy neighbour". So fucking love me ya bitch. Oh, I forgot to add a special " ;) " just for you.

Side: Yes
1 point

No it isnt. .

Side: Yes
1 point

To you it is a sin, but you have the right to feel that way. Just as an atheist as a right not believing in god or sins.. How does two women or two men being married effect you???

Side: Yes

Is there ever a reason to deny two lovers a marriage?

Side: Yes
Jc41218(1558) Disputed
1 point

If what they are doing is inherently sinful and against the bible yes there is a couple.

Would you allow a dog to marry?

Side: No
2 points

False analagy fallacy. Homosexuality has nothing to do with bestiality.

Side: Yes
1 point

The questions should really be "Is marriage a civil right"?, since that's the real issue since if marriage is a civil right then gay marriage is by definition also a civil right.

But regarding the question itself, yes, they should have the right to be just as miserable as the rest of us.

Side: Yes
1 point

Yes, if you don't agree you are a moron..................................................

Side: Yes
Jc41218(1558) Disputed
1 point

Look at sexy bananas excellent logical analysis of the situation.

Side: No
1 point

Marriage itself is a civil right. Everyone has the right to marry (enter in to a legal contract) with whomever they love. It's "gay" marriage, it marriage equality. The actual question at hand here is malformed.

Side: Yes
AngryGenX(463) Disputed
1 point

Everyone has the right to marry (enter in to a legal contract) with whomever they love.

Children can not get married

People who want to marry children can not get married

People who want to marry animals can not get married

People who want to marry a relative can not get married

People who are already married can not get married

Side: No
1 point

No matter what the dumbass conservatives say.....................

Side: Yes

Hey I'm a conservative and I feel that gay marriage should be allowed and is a civil right😁😄

Side: Yes

Sort of. There is supposed to be equal protection under the law. If we give some couples benefits for being together we need to give it to the rest.

Side: Yes
1 point

In religion, gay marriage is a sin.

Not in society.

It could be a sin, but we do have the freedom of loving ones

we want to love.

Even if they are the same sex.

Side: Yes
1 point

Marriage itself is a Civil Right, so Gay Marriage has to be a Civil Right, too because every person is equal.

Side: Yes

I think it is. I dont feel right about limiting gays rights. Gays are just as human as straight people, so why cant they have the same rights? JMHO

Side: Yes
1 point

Yes. Gays have the same right to get married as straight people.

Side: Yes
Atrag(5556) Disputed
1 point

Leave this site. You are Banned.

Side: No
Sitar(3680) Disputed
1 point

Andy has no problem with me being here. He knows who I am because I told him/

Side: Yes

Gay Marriage is indeed a Civil Right. Gays are a vocal minority in the United States.

Side: Yes

It is. Gay Marriage is a Civil Right and not an Extra Right as some bigoted people are espousing.

Side: Yes
1 point

yes because everyone deserves to be with the person they love wether of the opposite race or of the same gender it doesn't matter we all deserve to be equal.

Side: Yes
1 point

It's the natural right of anyone to get married to anyone else. Gay people should be properly ashamed of themselves and keep that private though. It's damaging and disruptive to society and normal mental health in general.

Disgusting.

Side: Yes

I don't believe that marriage - gay or otherwise - is a civil right.

Still though- under US law, this shouldn't even be an issue. The government recognizes marriage as an institution and offers benefits for it; it is illegal to deny that recognition and those benefits based on sexual orientation, and it is also illegal to legally define marriage as solely being between a man and a woman for that exact same reason. The government simply does not have the right to deny gay marriage; any legislation to that affect would be unconstitutional. Not that that stops them much these days...

Really, the government shouldn't be involved with marriage at all, and should really just butt the hell out of it- even if that means that married couples have to lose their benefits. Or even simpler, just wipe out the word marriage entirely (in the governments vocabulary, at least) in favor of a new term, attach the benefits to the new term, and be done with it. People want to get married? They can find an organization that will marry them (though straight couples will still probably have an easier time of it, its no longer the governments problem). No benefits attached to marriage; you want to file a joint tax return? Put in the paperwork for a government recognized partnership.

Side: No
3 points

No point making an argument! You've said it for me!*

Side: No
3 points

Marriage is holy, and homosexuality is not holy. You can not continue the natural course of nature if you are gay, therefore why should it be celebrated?

the only good thing about homosexuality is it helps keep the population down.

Side: Yes
2 points

This does not dispute my points.

At least insofar as the US government is concerned, they are not legally allowed to recognize the holy/unholy status of a given arrangement or relationship.

Homosexuality is in fact natural, as it can be observed in numerous other species. Why should heterosexuality be celebrated? If we're glorifying breeding, then man is completely inferior to rodents, insects, microbes, etc.

Unless you can explain how the US government is in anyway authorized to discriminate between homosexual and heterosexual couples, you don't have a case here.

You vastly understate the benefit of population control as well.

Side: No
1 point

There is nothing wrong with being gay. .

Side: No
2 points

Yeah, that's my stance.

Are you going to quit when you reach 1001 points? Just curious, seeing your name.

Side: No
thousandin1(1931) Clarified
1 point

Probably not; the names one I've used for a while, not anything like that.

If I do quit, it'll most likely be well before or well after 1001, heh

Side: Yes
1 point

I present my civil disagreement for your debating pleasure. Since gays are the same living human as straights, why not allow the same rights? Can you see what Im saying?

Side: Yes
1 point

My contention that government should get the hell out of marriage entirely would, in fact, amount to equal rights for gays and straights under the law. Did you read my entire post?

Side: No
3 points

Marriage on a whole shouldn't be a civil right .

Side: No

Im sorry if i came off wrong. truce? .

Side: No
1 point

Yes it should. Gays have the same rights as other people. .

Side: Yes
timber113(796) Disputed
3 points

What? I never said they never had a right, i was just saying what you are asking for should have never been a right to ask for in the first place. So straight and interracial marriage isn't a civil right either.

Side: No

In case i never made myself clear, no it is not a civil right it is a holy right.

Side: No
2 points

No. Using the civil rights concept to justify gay "marriage" discredits the very idea of civil rights.

Side: No
Cartman(18192) Disputed
2 points

Is standard marriage a civil right?

Side: Yes
BigOats(1400) Disputed
3 points

Maybe it's considered to be a right, but it shouldn't - exactly for the reason that this can create a back-door for such legal manipulations and constructs as "gay marriage".

Driving a car is not really a civil right, because otherwise we could raise the question why aren't blind people allowed to drive cars.

Side: No
2 points

Anything Sexual, is uncivil.

Side: No
Jungelson(3954) Disputed
1 point

The voice of reason, ladies and gentlemen.

Side: Yes
mc1934(70) Disputed
2 points

But seriously homosexuality is a sin and you will be judged for it.

Side: No
Intangible(4933) Clarified
1 point

Uhm. It's just gentlemen. I am not multiple people... That's preposterously impossible.

Side: Yes
0 points

there is right but most of them do not accept them and marriage can"t be done

Side: No
0 points

Marriage is a privilege given by the people, to people they chose to give it to. The people chose to give married couples tax breaks and benefits because they want to encourage marriage, not gay marriage.

Side: No

It's a civil ceremony, but a right???? Is polygamy a right?

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Side: No