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53
38
YES NO, THIS IS WHO
Debate Score:91
Arguments:58
Total Votes:104
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Is Ismaila/DanaForYeshua the biggest little immature crying baby on Create Debat

I have never done a personal attack before due to childish implications, but Ismaila just crys and crys and then bans and bans.

This is just sick and tiresome.

Baby

YES

Side Score: 53
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NO, THIS IS WHO

Side Score: 38

Ismaila is simple unable to take any criticism while dismissive and imperious by dissent plus extremely misguided by what a debate is. She always have some pseudo vendetta against someone who disagreed with her or probably destroyed her kindergarten logic from one liners.

Side: YES
Sitara(11082) Disputed
0 points

My problem is not with criticism, it is with people who go about it the wrong way.

Side: NO, THIS IS WHO
nummi(1432) Disputed
1 point

Oh really? Then why do problems begin when someone criticizes you?

Side: YES
3 points

While I have never engaged in debate with Ismaila, I do believe we should treat this debate as a serious complaint (even if the title is a tad harsh).

I've taken the liberty of browsing Ismaila's most recent arguments and I find that the tonality of her comments are far too personal, they can also be quite aggressive to those she is disputing. Also her arguments can be quite short and often add very little substance to the debate.

Side: YES
2 points

she used curse words at me and after that, she threatened to report me for nothing. I thought she was twelve but then I checked her profile and she's 31. she has a serious temperment for a thirty year old woman. its probably a midlife crisis.

Side: YES
Sitara(11082) Disputed
1 point

too aggressive? If you cannot handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Side: NO, THIS IS WHO
nummi(1432) Disputed
2 points

Then why have you never done that?

Side: YES
timber113(796) Disputed
2 points

That isnt heat ismaila its a sign of ignorance, way too much if you ask me.

Side: YES
Axmeister(4320) Disputed
2 points

If you cannot show respect to people you disagree with, then I'm sure many will agree with me when I say that you do not belong here.

Side: YES
3 points

I must say that in the past few weeks, CD has been completely flooded by these trivial facebook-twitter esque posts, rather than actual debates.

This is, above all, a debating site. I think that flooding the debate roster with these semi-personal, singular question type posts that only revolve around Isma is ridiculous and shows narcissistic and self-loving traits about her character.

I generally avoid drama, but I am sick and tired of these utterly vacuous ''I am bored, entertain me'' threads. The quality of the content has gone down quite a bit in these last few weeks.

Side: YES
Sinknight(522) Disputed
2 points

Its sad that not everyone understands Ismaila and that people don't understand what she goes through. And so, without even truly meeting and speaking with the person, goes out to speak unjustified words about Ismaila. Sure, we all had a conflict with her, I have too. She got so furious at me that she posted a debate literally insulting me purely out of spite! I got so upset, that I fought her back. After a couple of arguments, she stopped getting infuriated and actually debated me (somewhat.) Later, we had a great discussion about many things and we told each other a little history about each other. Many of the things I heard were things that made me feel a bit sad for her. She has narcissistic topics but, they have reason. Ismaila is a very self-passionate person but a person who cares about others too and she just wants feedback. Sure, this isn't the right place for it but, how dare the author of this debate make a question that would damage someone else's reputation, nevertheless, you and all these other people support it. If you want better quality debates then stop commenting on these pitiful and useless debates that only degrade someone else's character and make one yourself!

Side: NO, THIS IS WHO
VecVeltro(412) Clarified
2 points

Yes, I agree that this post is a blatant ad hominem. However, user PrayerFails does not systematically and consistently contaminate the site with trivial filth whereas Isma does. If she made more actual, debatable threads instead of ''men are pigs, make me feel better'' or ''i'm gonna learn spanish'' - then people wouldn't have this issue.

In this case, Isma needs some tough love. Her personal problems are her issues and she has no right using this site as some personal re-assurance tool. This site is a public forum for debating, not some group therapy sessions.

Her actions are actively damaging the content and the reputation of this site. New people come along, see these trivial threads and think that the place is a joke - and they'll flop to debate.org, which does not tolerate such antics.

This site is not the place to siphon pity or self-assurance for yourself. Your ideas need to survive on your own without preferential treatment. If you can't handle criticism, then that is your problem, not the site's. Isma clearly cannot take criticism that well - this is something she will have to work on about herself. Simple as that.

Side: YES
2 points

There was a similar person on another forum... constant pointless threads and comments each day for about 4 or 5 months straight. That moron got banned, permanently. If I could've banned that one I would've done so in the end of the first month, if not sooner. You know what happened after it (never understood if it was a she or he or...) got banned? The quality of the site rose significantly. That person literally kept everyone back, away from why they even became part of that community.

Ismaila will never learn, she has had a long time for that, if she's not changed by now it will never happen. Even if it will it's not worth waiting for it as it would take years. What are the priorities of this site? To provide a good environment for free debating, or to wait till some moron learns how to behave normally, learns how to be normal? She keeps us back and away from what we came here for. Ismaila must go, for her sake and the site's sake. If I could ban her, it would already be done.

She must go.

Side: YES

Thank You, someone who agrees with me. Create Debate was a escape from the world, but now, it is just torture coming on here now.

Side: YES
Sitara(11082) Disputed
1 point

i see that you do not support freedom of speech. ;)

Side: NO, THIS IS WHO
2 points

The best source of free speech is creating a blog where you can rant and rave all your feelings, please stop it here, it is destroying the reputation of the site. This deters people who actually want to debate and attracts more loud mouth troll with emotional problems.

Side: YES
nummi(1432) Disputed
1 point

Yet you're the one accusing me baselessly of bullying. I wonder why... Because you don't want other people criticizing you or your opinions and beliefs? It is very obvious that I'm not the one not supporting freedom of speech. After all, look at what I say...

As to "I cannot handle the truth", what you said in another debate after banning me, again. What truth? There is no truth other than the fact that you are strongly messed up in the head.

You also said "you do not deserve to be bullied". Ok, let's go with "bullying". Considering the way you behave you don't just deserve to be bullied but also ridiculed, insulted, debased, etc. Oh... "the truth" you were talking about, is this it? I think this is what you meant and you were wrong, you deserve all you get.

Side: YES

I see her as narrow minded and ignorant. She is quick to state her own opinion and very unwilling to accept others. On a debate I left my opinion that as you can image differed from hers, and I was banned only after I was disputed without a chance to defend my point and blocked, with a rude message sent to me.

People are saying no, because we don't know what she's like in real life, but for all of those people on the no side for that reason, this isn't about what she's like IRL it's about what she's like on this site. On this site, she whines, check her debates, she insults like a child, check her arguments, and as for crying I won't say she physically cries or not but she seems to be quick to play the victim, stating things like I will not be bullied, etc, yet she insults, a form of verbal bullying.

I washed my hands of her.

Side: YES
2 points

No although she may have a history of disagreeing with anything she is saying and I know that, we do not know how her life is outside this website.

Side: NO, THIS IS WHO
1 point

Thank you. I owe you now .

Side: NO, THIS IS WHO
1 point

Nobody cares about her life outside the website nor should care about mine, this website is about debating and not about expressing rants and entertain blogs.

Side: YES
judas(295) Disputed
2 points

this website is about debating and not about expressing rants

Oh you mean like the rant above? How fucking stupid is it to come on here crying and whining about how someone else is a crybaby?

Jesus Christ, grow up.

Side: NO, THIS IS WHO
Sitara(11082) Disputed
1 point

Thank you for making me the center of your world. ;)

Side: NO, THIS IS WHO
2 points

I don't think she is but we need to stop making debates like this that has been happening for quite sometime about Ismaila. The drama needs to stop and lets continue with actual debates where we can debate about other things.

Side: NO, THIS IS WHO
2 points

No Meer is.

Side: NO, THIS IS WHO
1 point

Meer was a bug compared to the damaged she has caused.------------------------

Side: YES
Cuaroc(8827) Disputed
2 points

Ismaila hasn't posted hundreds of spam debates within seconds of each other.

Side: NO, THIS IS WHO
1 point

damn this is some dramatic shit going down. W hos the drama queen ? Keep up the good fight

Side: NO, THIS IS WHO
1 point

Actually, I can handle criticism. One of my atheist friends verbally whooped my ass on another website, and I listened. Criticism is not the issue, it is how you go about it.

Side: NO, THIS IS WHO
2 points

And saying "Fuck you troll go play in traffic in die" is the perfect example of how to go about criticising right?

Shut up Ismaila.

Side: NO, THIS IS WHO
Sitara(11082) Disputed
1 point

That is what you get for bullying me .

Side: YES
1 point

i just want to let everyone that I support your right to believe whatever you want, and your right to say what you want. If that means you not liking me, fair enough. I have more important things to do that bitch about your freedoms. God bless.

Side: NO, THIS IS WHO

The same goes here, I don't care if you believe in unicorns and rainbows, you are getting the WRONG IMPRESSION and MISINTERPRETING everything.

I never said that I don't like you, what is unfair is your unwillingness to take dissent with constantly banning anyone who disagrees with you. That is it. I just want for you to taste the rant medicine.

Side: NO, THIS IS WHO
Sitara(11082) Disputed
2 points

I have the right to choose who I debate with .

Side: YES
1 point

ismaila supports her religion and she tries to argue so i think that u guys are just bullying her

Side: NO, THIS IS WHO
-1 points

Hellno is.

Side: NO, THIS IS WHO
Hellno(17756) Disputed
2 points

Awe... see, I knew you missed me.

Side: YES