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Caucasian Another skin color
Debate Score:82
Arguments:50
Total Votes:90
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Is Jesus White (AKA The Megyn Kelly Santa Debate)

Megyn Kelly sparked a wee bit of outrage when she declared Jesus (and Santa) was white.

Is she right, or was Jesus' skin another color?

 

Read about it here: http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/12/13/call-jesus-white-expect-a-fight/?hpt=hp_c3

Watch the video here: http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2013/12/13/sot-megyn-kelly-santa-is-white.cnn.html

Here is her retort: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/13/megyn-kelly-responds-to-critics-over-santa-is-white-flap/?intcmp=features

 

Watch this video

Caucasian

Side Score: 37
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Another skin color

Side Score: 45
5 points

Technically Jesus was caucasian because his race falls into that category . Caucasian isn't just white people. I think that's what Megyn Kelly was trying to say but she just said it unintelligently.

Side: Caucasian
2 points

Well its true that Jesus did exist but being that the bible seems almost certainly to contains fiction, the question is what fiction is most effective in perpetuating the idea of Christianity. The majority of Christians are white so giving them pictures of a white man to worship makes the messiah seem more like them. If he seems more like them they are more likely to worship him (being that human are naturally egotistical). Therefore, Jesus, as a symbolic religious figure must be white to most effective perpetuate christian's religious fiction.

Side: Caucasian
Jace(4915) Disputed
1 point

Is that actually correct? I cannot find a consolidated statistic on adherents by race/ethnicity, however a breakdown of demographics of the 10 countries with most Christian adherents (source) indicates that while Caucasian might be the larger minority there is no prevailing majority. 18.8% belong to a predominantly Caucasian country (including the U.S. which has a significant non-white Christian population), while 29.0% belong to predominantly non-Caucasian countries.

So, really, Jesus should be a different race depending on the country and maybe even the church. Or, perhaps, Jesus should be racially ambiguous or even mixed race?

Side: Another skin color
2 points

Middle Eastern people generally are classified as white/Caucasian. I honestly don't see why this is such a huge issue.

Side: Caucasian

There is no way that he could have been any other color, because if he was black he would have been a slave and not have been able to spread his word like he did.

Side: Caucasian
3 points

Jesus probably looked very similar to modern day terrorists. He was born into a classic Jewish family in Israel.

Side: Another skin color
Jungelson(3931) Disputed
2 points

Well.. He was actually born in to a Jewish family in Palestine.

Side: Caucasian
lolzors93(3225) Disputed
1 point

However, in the context of the thing to which she was arguing, I agree with her, in that sense. There is no need to change the image of Jesus, nor of Santa, to that of another color. The only part where she is wrong is about Jesus historically being white. But, that is irrelevant to the argument, in my opinion.

Side: Caucasian
Warjin(1577) Disputed
3 points

There is no need to change the image of Jesus, nor of Santa, to that of another color.

What if the depiction of Jesus and Santa was that of a black man? Would you as a white person want it changed to something more neutral?

OK lets imagine that we are in a alternate universe, in this universe Blacks were the oppressors, blacks invaded native American land, blacks enslaved white people and forced there way of life on the whites with there version of history, there version of religion, there version of black Santa, there version of black Jesus, there version of morality, pretty much controlled and doctored all of American history up until this point, as a equal free white man or women how would you feel about a black Jesus and a black Santa?

So should if be changed Yes, why because contrary to popular belief the world is not centered around white people, at least not any more, should Santa and Jesus be blacks, no but at least a neutral color, both are just traditional figures and keeping them white would not be a problem if it was just that, but America and its white Christian rules took it upon themselves in the 1950's to make Christmas a national holiday, so now that blacks are no longer sitting in the back of the bus, white Santa must change, as well of white Jesus.

Side: Another skin color
Troy8(2431) Disputed
1 point

So what race are you arguing he would have been?

Side: Caucasian
ColumCille(9) Disputed
1 point

We should remember that the ethnic makeup of that region 2000 years ago was quite different. The darker skinned arab genes wouldn't make a major appearance for quite a while. Rather, Jesus probably looked something like a modern day Serbian (though with dark eyes and curly hair).

Side: Caucasian
3 points

he was Jewish. in Jerusalem. most people there have a darker skin color.

and i always believed Jesus became really pale after being crucified.

Side: Another skin color
God_(507) Clarified
1 point

He probably would have become pale after bleeding out because where there is no blood the skin goes white.

Side: Caucasian
mitgag(1652) Clarified
1 point

yeah! that's what i thought. and it does seem like the only reasonable explanation too...

Side: Caucasian
2 points

If Jesus did exist, he was most likely a Palestinian Jew. .

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Side: Another skin color
zico20(345) Disputed
1 point

IF, I guess you could say that about any other ancient figure, like Ceaser, Augustus, Socrates, Aristotle, Alexander the Great, Plato, Cyrus the Great.

The list can go on and on. Jesus existed, weather you choose to accept him as the son of God is another matter, but Jesus was real.

Side: Caucasian
Warjin(1577) Disputed
1 point

And you know this how?

Let me guess, the bible told you so?

Side: Another skin color
Thejackster(517) Disputed
1 point

I never said he was fictional, I was pointing out that there isnt 100% confirmnation that he did exist.

Side: Another skin color
mattkl94(19) Disputed
1 point

Socrates, Aristotle, Plato and Alexander the Great were born in modern day greece, so they would like like a tan-white person. Same with Augustus and Ceaser. Cyrus the Great was a Persian leader (modern-day Iran), if you Zico20 would understand ancient history. SO Cyrus would look like a Iran.

Side: Another skin color
2 points

What? Jesus ain't no cracka! bitch please!

Side: Another skin color
2 points

It seems, going from record of unverified texts, Jesus was not white... unless the Mormons are right. Then this whole debate is fucked.

Side: Another skin color
2 points

Semetic/Middle-Eastern. Assuming he actually existed, but that is another debate entirely.

Side: Another skin color

He was a Jew. Which is sort of white, but not quite white. Middle Eastern-e.

Side: Another skin color

I don't think he was white. I imagined him as some kind of arab enthicity, but skin color is really irrelevant.

I was surprised by this whole santa is white thing. He is a fictional, holiday figure. He is not real, we could say he if blue if we really wanted to and it would not change the effect of him.

Side: Another skin color
Troy8(2431) Disputed
1 point

I don't think he was white. I imagined him as some kind of arab enthicity, but skin color is really irrelevant.

Arabs almost invariably fall into the category of white.

Side: Caucasian
MuckaMcCaw(1968) Disputed
1 point

Not exactly. Racially, they are Caucasian, but Semitic as opposed to Anglo. Anglo-Caucasians are "white", Semitic are the middle-easterners, which is a bit more ethnic than truly racial, but significant enough to be considered a different group.

Not that it really matters.

Side: Another skin color

THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE VERY VERY GOOD AT AT FIX NEWS NETWORK''

Side: Another skin color
1 point

He probably looked Middle Eastern.

Side: Another skin color
1 point

In the time of Jesus the majority of people from the Middle East were darker skinned than they are now so it is most likely that Jesus was dark skinned or Black so the depiction of him as a White man is incorrect, on the other hand the story of Santa is believed to have started with the Norse god Odin who used to ride his six legged horse across the sky distributing presents to children, Odin was always depicted and described as being White with a long white beard so the depiction of Santa as being White is correct

Side: Another skin color

Jesus had MY skin color ;)

Side: Another skin color

The reason why most images of Jesus depict him with Ango-Saxon features is because Christianity was traditionally practiced in Europe, therefore many European Christians depicted him as white.

The same way that most depictions of Buddha are that of a fat east asian man when he was most likely a skinny indian guy, because Buddism was largley practiced in East Asia.

Side: Another skin color

Jesus was more likely colored. He lived in Israel 2'000 years ago. Israel gets over 100 degrees Celsius and Fahrenheit.

Your not gonna be white in the hot scolding son.

Side: Another skin color

He was Semitic, making Him medium toned like an Arab. .

Side: Another skin color
1 point

The story of Jesus' birth give us the answer, Mary was returning to her hometown for the census, Roman law had every citizen to their birth town for the census, in Palestine so Mary probably looked like a Middle Eastern, dark skin. Jesus was born in modern day Israel where the ethnic Israelis have dark skin. So Jesus would look like the American stereo-type of a "terrorist" not Angelo-Saxon.

Side: Another skin color
1 point

Jesus wasn't even fucking real! But since he supposedly born in Nazareth Jesus would look like any man Megan Kelly would label a "terrorist".

Side: Another skin color

He was the colour (Btw that is the correct way of spelling it as we do in Britain) of non-existence.

Side: Another skin color