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Is McCain's age a factor for undecided voters?
Is he destined to die in office?
A question that many people are asking is just that. McCain's age is of much concern to the people because if he comes to office and then dies, what will we be stuck with? Not only that, but among the Native American people, they are saying that the next president will die in office no matter what because of an ancient Taboo set on the American government. But really, is the fact that John McCain could die in office an issue when voting for our next president?
I agree that Mccain's age is a major factor, with age on his side and an unstable medical history, McCains voter need to be assured that they are willing to have Sarah Palin lead, because no one is promise to more and 70 plus years is closer to the end then ever......
The fact that McCain could possibly die of old age in office is a major concern of the undecided vote population. Especially for those who are against Sarah Palin. Since a lot of the factors of why we as a population vote is for promises made by the head honcho (in this case McCain) and not for his/her associate (Sarah Palin). So if McCain dies in office, then we would have Sarah Palin as president, who a lot of people know little about compared to McCain or Obama. So the fact the Obama technically has a better chance of "living" (for lack of a better word) during office, that could lead the undecided vote in his favor.
I agree that Mccain's age is a major factor, with age on his side and an unstable medical history, McCains voters need to be assured that they are willing to be lead by Sarah Palin, in the event of the possible because no one is promise tomorrow and 70 plus years is closer to the end then ever......
Are you infering that Obama will be assasinated? Isn't that what everyone is screaming? And what is with the CAPS?! And I'm pretty damn sure that Biden is much more ready than Palin to take over should something happen to Obama.
In the beginning I was not convinced that it would be but after seeing him again at last night's debate with Obama I have to agree that age may be a factor here. While he has a fairly clean bill of health now I can only wonder by his wooden appearance and lack of intonation that there may just be something coming that would not bode well for him. Of course, and as you all know, my vote goes to Obama, but I fear for JMC and I fear for our country should Palin have to take charge. The difference between 73 and 77 is huge in medical terms and to bring it to the worst case scenario of 81, I think would compromise the nation should he lose his faculties. He's been through much and I wish nothing but the best of health to him but I think it's time to THINK...not only for those that are undecided but for anyone who votes for him!!!
As an undecided voter I wold have to say YES! I personally cannot stand Sarah Palin and any thought of her becoming president if McCain dies, which the odds are pretty high on, lets me know that he is even to old to make a good decision about picking a running mate. It makes it so there really is not much of a choice, of course there never really is, but now there is none.
Hold on a minute.... McCain choice has revitalized the Republican party. Look at the poll numbers now and compare then to before Palin. He must be doing someting right. I mean, you can't discount that. It would be dangerous for Obama to discount that. He needs to bounce back.
I didn't say that McCain's choice didn't revitalize his party, I said that he does not respect my views, wants to take my rights away, and wants to have his opinion be the only one that is right. I hate Palin, it does not matter to me, she does not represent me and the thought that she would ever be president if something happened to McCain is not something I am willing to consider, she is not qualified, not to mention she has lied and seems very fake. McCain's age matters to me, up til he picked Palin I was an undecided voter, age was a serious factor that I looked at. That is what the argument is about, not weather or not the Republican party has been revitalized.
The very fact that you have to ask indicates that it is a factor. And every factor is going to influence those who are not die-hard fans or followers. Therefore, yes, its a factor for the undecided.
well, he has a 15% chance of dying within the first term... not really that much of a chance.
Obama used to smoke a lot... i wouldn't really say it gives him more of a chance of dying, but some researchers claim that he is less healthy. if this is true... idk. here's an article about it (from a source i don't really like, but it'll do for now)...
well let's say this, there's a 15% chance that your country, and the most powerful country in the world, could be run by someone who wants to ban books, believes dinosaurs were around 4,000 years ago, and thinks the view from her bedroom window gives her foreign policy experience. Would you still be okay with it?
I think what I said was perfectly relevant. McCain is old so he has a greater chance of dying or being hospitalized so that he can no longer act as president. In that scenario Palin would take over as commander-and-chief. So if you are undecided, this is something that you have to take into account when making your choice.
As for just McCain's age and health in general: how about the fact that as we age mental disorders become much more prevelant. Do you want the leader of the free world to develop alzheimer's part way through his first term?
As fucked up Obama is, i really don't think the mental thing bothers me.
he has 15% chance of dying, which due to Obama's poor health from smoking, isn't that big of a deal. McCain has a personal history of survival and his mother is 95 and still kicking well. that definitely slims the chance of dying even more. 15% is based solely on average on age, but McCain's excellent condition helps even more.
And to be honest, I would much rather have Palin as president than Obama. The only thing that saves Obama right now is the fact that he chose Biden for president. Hey, maybe we'll be lucky and Obama will die from lung cancer, causing Biden to become president.
I have to question your judgement on comparing the health of a 72 year old and 47 year. Weather Obama smoked or not is unlikely to affect his health in the next four years or even eight (if we're lucky).
As for mental health, listen to a speech from Obama and then from McCain. Even if you disagree with what Obama says he still says it much more elaquantly then McCain, who tends to have issues reading teleprompters and often misspeaks (for example he said al-qaeda when he meant extremists but I'm sure that was just a slip of the tongue). Based on this alone you can easily see that as far as mental problems go, McCains the one you should watch.
You also say his mother died at 95, and while I agree that this is very old I must point out two things. First that women tend to live longer than men. His father for example only lived to the age of 70. Secondly, towards the end of a persons life, if they are lucky enough to live to such an old age, their mind does start to go. The majority of my family on my mothers side have lived past 90 and I have seen every one of them slowly lose their mental capacities. It has gotten to the point with my grandfather that he no longer remembers who I am sometimes. Now to be fair McCain isn't as old as my grandfather, but it's not like one day you wake up and you can't think anymore. This process happens gradually over a period of time. More and more brain cells are dying every second of everyday for McCain.
But hey, an inexperienced fundamentalist christian hockey mom's not so bad right? I mean what's the worst that can happen?
because he's a bad speaker that means he has bad mental health? than 90% of people have bad mental health. being a good speaker is all about bullshitting, not about good mental health. Hitler was a brilliant speaker... do you really consider him to have the best of mental health?
Haha, ok, point taken. I was using the speaking in order to show that Obama is at least sane enough to be coherent. Also I'm going to have to call you out on breaking Godwin's Law. Comparing Obama to Hitler? Come on let's be reasonable.
Now a lot of the criticism I've heard about Obama has to do with his speeches. People say "yea he's a good speaker, but those are just words. Words can't do anything." You used the example of Hitler. Now Obama does not speak like Hitler. Comparing him to the great civil rights activists of the 60's would be a more appropriate example.
i never compared them. all i said was the Hitler was also a brilliant speaker and that had nothing to do with his mental health. it's really just the gift of being able to speak well.
It could be, but it shouldn't be, as that would be ageism. McCain keeps as active and busy a campaigning schedule as Obama. And his mother's still alive at 95, so despite the actuary tables, he comes from pretty good genes.
If you are still undecided after the selection of Ms. Palin to have the slightest opportunity to be the President of the United States, then you probably don't care at all about McCain's age or a whole lot of other things.