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 Is Obama "Making or Breaking" the U.S? (17)

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Is Obama "Making or Breaking" the U.S?

recently in my hometown people have been arguing whether or not obama is doing goos for us or worse for us. so  far its been neck and neck. personally i  think he's breaking us specially with the healthcare  but what do yall say?

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3 points

Neither, the media will warp his views and politics to fit them. He will go down as non-important, SHORT of the health care plan (for better or for worse it will be overturned by congress after elections (which are every two years), due to a huge rush of Republicans). Yes I read the bill itself, all 1990 pages of it (well I read the H.R 3962 version ^1). It was going around for roughly a century before this!^2

However people need to realize that the congress has the power.^3 (They make the laws, they pass the laws, they are the ones who declare war.)

Note ^1&2;are PDFs

^1 http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf

^2 http://net.acpe.org/MembersOnly/pejournal/2008/MayJun/Igel.pdf

^3 http://edhelper.com/ReadingComprehension_34_29.html

Side: Neither
mudkipz2(360) Disputed
3 points

obama is breaking our country.

he screwed up our foreign affairs with Israel. going to Iran and having a tea party meeting with the terrorist, and on his way out, briefly mentioning the whole nuke problem to him and pretty much saying, just think about it.

next is the health care bill, whether it will help our health or not is besides the point. what is is the huge amount of money it will cost to put it into effect when were 13 trillion dollars in debt.

then again, obama likes to mess with us, he says that the oil spill is his top priority and he will not rest to it is solved, but look. he must of found time to listen to the Jonas brothers play at the white house as the whole ecological disaster unfolds.

and again, the nuclear disbarment plan with Russia. less nukes equals more cost for us. the reason is one nuke is cheaper then paying a soldier over seas fighting for us. if we want to pull out of our global police position we need to rely on cheaper methods to deal with those wrong doers, and an arsenal of WMDs solved the problem with Russia in the cold war quite well. but now were just shooting our self's in the foot as we cut in cheap defense and pay more on conviental defense.

pity...

Side: breaking

Honestly? The man has been in office for barely a year.

the changes he plan on making are probably going to have an effect years later.

We can't know yet if his decisions are making or Breaking the U.S.

Side: breaking
2 points

true. i agree he might make changes to it but alot of people now specially where i am are saying that he's too "inexperienced" and that he doesn't really know what he's doing. im asking for opinions on this b/c i dnt agree that he's inexperienced that really isnt the case is it?

Side: breaking
2 points

Personally i think he's breaking us a lil with the healthcare plan.

Side: breaking
Mahollinder(900) Disputed
4 points

Personally i think he's breaking us a lil with the healthcare plan.

There are some parts of the healthcare plan that I disagree with. Although a more robust legislative effort would have done wonders for the country, I don't think the laws we got are going to break it. What about the healthcare plan will break the country and why?

Side: breaking
mudkipz2(360) Disputed
2 points

nothing at you personally, but what did this guy say to get 4 points?

that is what what angers me, liberals who instead of clinging to logic and reason for proof of their opinions, but instead use mob rule to get their way.

statistics does not make right.

Side: breaking

I agree the health care bill may seem like a good Idea at first but it really wont help much we need to regulate the Insurance Industry first

Side: breaking

Breaking because if you don't go to college after you graduate high school he is going to take you and place you in the army

it was on the news that he said that because last year one boy did not go to college so Obama put him into the army now today sometime they are going to bury him how sad.

Side: breaking
jessald(1915) Disputed
4 points

Obama is not going to force people to join the army. You probably just misunderstood the story.

Side: Making
lyle91(87) Disputed
2 points

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he is not going to do that. I bet it was probably on Fox news right?

Side: Making
mudkipz2(360) Disputed
2 points

way more actuate then ur liberal media bs stations............................................

Side: Making
1 point

i think he is breaking the us because we are still in a bad situation, but he is also making he us because him and his wife (mostly his wife) have a program to help kids get out and play so less kids will be obese.

Side: Neither

It is now 2015 and I think the President is doing much good for the country with ObamaCare and the unemployment rate is going down.

Side: Neither