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Is Obama the worst president ever?

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Yes, until the next one comes along...........................................

Side: Yes
2 points

Are you familiar with exponents in mathmatics?

You can't just say Obama is the worst president to the power of one.

Obama is the worst president to the power of 10.

Side: Yes
Cuaroc(8829) Clarified
2 points

So how is he a worse president than Andrew Jackson?

Side: Yes
2 points

And since you are pretty significantly on the right side of the political spectrum, what is your argument as to how he was worse than FDR? Or Hoover.

Side: No
KNHav(1957) Clarified
1 point

Can you expand your argument of FDR and Hoover in comparison to Obama?

Side: Yes
1 point

He is an enemy of the state. He lives the dream of his father.

He grew up with an absent fater in anti-American cultures like Kenya, and Hawaii. Where anti Colonialism (hatred of Britain and also America) were his greatest influence with mentors like Frank Marshall Davis and his American Hating radical pastor.

His mother was fairly militant in her convictions and she and Obama's grandfather fostered it in Obama's heart. His intention was to lower us, because he believes we stole our wealth. And he idealizes the radical hatred of Muslims that fight against us.

And Americans, think with their hearts and not their heads.

We were ready for a black president, not a bigot like Jessy Jackson, but ready for a black American to ascend to our highest office.

But they didn't look past his skin. Being black ushered him in to the White house. Being unknown, was a strength, and he made anti American ideas favorable. And the political elite around him had 8 years to perfect race baiting, cop killing, anti capitalism, and spend the crap out of us on entitlements.

Side: Yes
0 points

You are correct and there is another element to his election. The Left controlling our media also agree with much of his anti America ideology and the need to transform America.

They buried any story that hurt Obama such as his 20 years of attending Reverend Wright's anti White bigoted Church.

Side: Yes
2 points

I didn't even think that was a question ! The Idiot in Chief is only driven by his ideology because that is all he knows !

Side: Yes
2 points

Yes

Side: Yes
0 points

Final answer Alex.

Side: Yes
IAmSparticus(1516) Clarified
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Why ?

Side: Yes
0 points

Hussein Obama will indeed go down as one of the two or three worst POTUS's in our Nation's history. It will take several more years however to determine exactly how much he injured this country and it's standing in the world during his 8-year Socialist Reign of Terror.

When the healthcare system collapses and all the good doctors quit due to his socialist and constitutionally illegal Obama Care Program, that will be a good sign of how bad he has hurt us. And when the government goes broke form paying out all those entitlement checks he encouraged, that too will show others how injurious Hussein the Muslim was to his adopted country of the US. (which he in reality pretty much despises.)

Side: Yes
shaash(434) Disputed
1 point

Yeah because everything that we can learn from history predicts that :/

No.

Side: No
IAmSparticus(1516) Clarified
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Can you explain specifically why you think the Affordable Care Act is socialist? Or how Obama is a Socialist (unless that is predicated upon the ACA)?

Edit: Two other questions: Specifically, why do you think the ACA is unconstitutional (in particular, what aspect of the SCOTUS' ruling do you find wrong), and what specific evidence do you have that he is a Muslim (or that he despises America)?

Side: Yes
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Well I would say yes.

The man continued all of Bush Jr policies, changed nothing, and using drones has gone off assinating people. Guantanmo is still going, and I'm sure torture with it.

He is a very American president in that he pretends to be about the rule of law, justice and freedom, but in truth it's all propoganda. He is the worse because of the level of hypocracy he demonstraights.

With Bush Jr, Nixon amoung others, there is and was no suprise with what they did really; That cannot be said of Obama, he for me qulifies as worst in hypocracy and in some circumstances, in action.

I think it was at the end of last year someone said to me they wanted an 'Obama coin' "Coz it would be change, you could actually hold"

and getting the Nobel prize was another joke.

Side: Yes
0 points

Wow, he is the by far the worst. He is Anti-American. We are supposed to hire people to maintain the American Way of Life and our influence Internationally. Not only did he neutralize us among the Nations as a failure, but his agenda was to equalize us at home and abroad.

Not only is he trying to implement a colorless equal society, run by the government. But he also wants to neutralize us abroad. even if that was an idea worth doing, Us being a great military power that bows to no one, and stands out in a way we always have. Being that is what keeps the really undesirable regime

Supporting Evidence: Giving Away America (www.dineshdsouza.com)
Side: Yes
IAmSparticus(1516) Clarified
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So what do you think makes him the worst specifically? Which policies do you point to as your evidence?

Side: Yes
KNHav(1957) Clarified
1 point

Why I oppose Obama

Just a few reasons of many, but who has time to tell all in just one debate

Executive Orders, Almost all Presidents have done them, we can compare the amount of Executive Orders, but in light of the political and social environment and the result of it, how the people support or oppose, and what is the projected outcome. The Why, the Who Benefits, and the Devil in all the Details.

http://www.thisnation.com/question/040.html

"Executive Orders (EOs) are legally binding orders given by the President, acting as the head of the Executive Branch, to Federal Administrative Agencies. Executive Orders are generally used to direct federal agencies and officials in their execution of Congressional established laws or policies. However, in many instances they have been used to guide agencies in directions contrary to congressional intent.

Not all EOs are created equal. Proclamations, for example, are a special type of Executive Order that are generally ceremonial or symbolic, such as when the President declares National Take Your Child To Work Day. Another subset of Executive Orders are those concerned with national security or defense issues. These have generally been known as National Security Directives. Under the Clinton Administration, they have been termed "Presidential Decision Directives."

Executive Orders do not require Congressional approval to take effect but they have the same legal weight as laws passed by Congress. The President's source of authority to issue Executive Orders can be found in the Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution which grants to the President the "executive Power." Section 3 of Article II further directs the President to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed." To implement or execute the laws of the land, Presidents give direction and guidance to Executive Branch agencies and departments, often in the form of Executive Orders."

Many of Obama’s Executive Orders are used to bypass Congress, and they are in direct opposition to the will of the people. Obama force feeds his own agenda, filled with his own socialistic views, as he disregards what the majority of Americans want.

To Obama and the Hillary Gang of Socialist Tainted Democrats, they act like the White House is their House. But really, it’s our house.

He is renovating it, and we don’t agree to the renovations.

He is the only President I’ve seen to disregard the will of the people to the degree he has.

The 2014 elections showed the real value of the vote results. People came out for a mid term election, without following coat tails of any prominent candidates in either party, or by the advantage of the coattails we see in Presidential elections.

Poles show opposition by Americans to Obama's misuse and dictatorship in his Executive Orders like Immigration, Illegal Aliens, War on Terror, Foreign Policy like the Iran Deal, Health Care, Refugees, and Trades with China and other Countries.

Americans spoke, actually America screamed in 2014, and the Gallop Poles confirm, Obama is using Executive orders to bypass our the representation we send to Washington in 2014, with forcing through Executive orders in direct opposition to the majority of his American Citizens.

So he is using Executive orders to rip America out from under Us.

Side: Yes
0 points

The reasons why Obama is NOT a good president for the USA

It’s because of his history, and his world view

He was raised by a protesting family, his mom and grandfather (may be WW2 vet but had close friendship with Frank M Davis – with communist world views and identified to watch by the FBI

He was raised with Anti-American Anti- Colonial- Anti- Great Britain view. This was his influence, his family and his peers.

He spent much of his young age in different Countries, regardless if he was hatched in Hawaii – Which is technically a state. But the non tourist areas of Hawaii hold an anti-Colonial ideology. And that’s not just a feeling towards British Colonialism, it includes the USA.

He was raised in Indonesia, 85% Muslim population, his father also from a heavily populated Muslim country, who idealized in his eyes by his radical mother.

THERE IS A REASON why our presidents need to by law be born here in the USA. THE MISTAKE our forefathers made was they ALSO should have included raised here! The next guy in should fix that. Back then it wasn’t as easy to travel abroad. It wasn’t really thought out.

The PROBLEM is this: Obama had a world view that was NOT birthed in PATRIOTISM, but actually was birthed and nurtures in ANTI-PATRIOTISM.

So he has no reason to honor the things and the values and the people that Americans hold dear. A president in America is supposed to represent America and the ideology of America and of Americans.

He was a poison in any position of influence in our society. And foolish Americans elected him anyway.

The difference:

He grew up surrounded by revolutions against Western Civilization.

Hating American “Capitalism” which we should now call Free Market.

His views all come out of his own life experience and influence.

Indonesia is also 85% Muslim. This matters and OBAMA will tell you why out of his own mouth! And in some cases, also what doesn’t come out of his mouth.

What’s in your heart comes out of your mouth. So we learned the heart of this man 8 years too late! For the record, I did NOT vote for him.

America is 83% Christian.

So when Obama comes on TV and wishes 83 % of us Americans who are Christian, the majority of the population of Americans a “HAPPY EASTER”, and then in the same SENTENCE begins to talk about Crusades and the “evils” in our history, that actually came out of Great Britain. Who is he a part of? Us? Or Indonesia? Or Kenya, or of Hawaii (from villages that dislike America)

But, then on Muslim High Holy Days, he comes on TV and goes on and on and on with praises for Muslims and the limited if any contribution of Muslims in the making of OUR country. But, unlike Easter, and regardless of time period relevance, there isn’t any mention of 9/11. But again, uses that platform to bash the people whose HOUSE he lives in. Suspect of our goodness and accusations of Christian intolerance.

Christians are being beheaded, are we beheading Muslims?

He is NOT America’s president. He is a president, but not America’s president.

He either represents a country that is 83% Christian OR he represents a country that is 85% Muslim. His allegiance follows the latter.

It’s been a piss and a shit on Americans, and he has gotten away with it for 8 years!

He bows to Muslim totalitarian dictators, and by doing so tells the word and Terrorist that 9/11 was a success, as our REPRESENTATIVE, he bows showing respect to these Muslim Rulers, praises leaders of IRAN as great and wonderful, favoring countries who breed terrorism, with hate aimed at us. And disrespects our Allies, he the 1st US president to bow to a Muslim King, which is NOT acceptable. And our Allie Queen of England he didn’t show respect.

He had mentors, who where they?

Frank Marshall Davis

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/ 2015/03/the washingtonempostemsugarcoatsobamascommunistmentor.html#ixzz3VanoJC9E

More on Obama’s life and history

http://www.examiner.com/article/malik-obama-barack-is-dishonest-and-a-schemer

And so much more….!!

Here is Obama Wishing Christians a HAPPY EASTER. Our highest of all Holy Days

And also his negative opinion of the words in the Bible disrespecting 83% of the people he represents!

And then here he is talking to Muslims and his praises without a negative word honoring the Koran again disrespecting 83% of the people he represents!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY

ALL this is why he should have NEVER been president.

The Best message we can send to the world is to IMPEACH him!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY

Obama is a President, but Who's?
Side: Yes
0 points

I strongly believe that he is the worst president we have had yet. He has raised our national deficit, even after saying he would lower it. He also has a lack of knowledge when it comes to U.S. History, once saying, while sitting in the Oval Office, how good it feels to be sitting in the same room that George Washington once sat in.

Side: Yes
IAmSparticus(1516) Clarified
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He has raised our national deficit, even after saying he would lower it.

That's the case for almost every President that was in office during a deficit.

He also has a lack of knowledge when it comes to U.S. History, once saying, while sitting in the Oval Office, how good it feels to be sitting in the same room that George Washington once sat in.

How is that sufficient to make him the worst president? Remember, you are comparing him to people like Bush, whose actions in Iraq led to half a million innocent casualties, or Truman who ordered the firebombing of Tokyo, or Andrew Jackson who blatantly violated the Supreme Court and committed a domestic genocide.

Running a deficit and not knowing the White House was burnt down and rebuilt really doesn't compare.

Side: Yes
KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

Sparticus,

I like what you did the other day at least attempting to address every point. I don't see the value in debating with you if you are not going to review each point, understand where I am coming from with those points and respond with a well thought out researched position for why you believe what you do.

So please, research points and get back to me.

Side: No

Objectively no.

If you are coming from the right, there is no possible way one could consider him worse than FDR.

If you are coming from the left, then he can't possibly be worse than Bush JR (who I wouldn't say is the worst either).

If you are coming from a position of historical knowledge, few (if anyone) can be worse than Andrew "Trail of Tears and Unconstitutionally Ignoring the SCOTUS" Jackson.

Side: No
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

"Objectively no.

If you are coming from the right, there is no possible way one could consider him worse than FDR.

If you are coming from the left, then he can't possibly be worse than Bush JR (who I wouldn't say is the worst either).

If you are coming from a position of historical knowledge, few (if anyone) can be worse than Andrew "Trail of Tears and Unconstitutionally Ignoring the SCOTUS" Jackson."

Can you show where FDR made any attack on the 2nd Amendment as Oblunder has ?

Side: Yes
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Why is it you Leftist are concerned with the Constitution when neither of your candidates running for the presidency are ?

Side: Yes
1 point

Jimmy Carter.

Side: No
IAmSparticus(1516) Clarified
0 points

Why Jimmy Carter, out of curiosity?

Side: Yes
1 point

I was under the impression that everyone hated him and I could just get away with leaving that there.

Side: No
1 point

No.

Ignoring political stance (Republicans aren't going to like Democratic policies and vice versa) and focusing primarily on civil rights, human rights, international relations, leadership and integrity Obama can't be ranked as the worst US president.

In terms of civil rights and human rights Obama isn't more guilty of offences in these areas than many other experiments. There have been racist presidents, slaving owning presidents and most presidents have condoned assassination and torture (as have most governments, that's part of why we have secret services).

In terms of international relations he has done fairly well given the global public perception of the US during the Bush years. He hasn't really started any aggressive wars or started any messes but neither can he take credit for ending any wars or solving any international crises. Regardless at the very least he ranks above Bush the younger in this area.

In terms of leadership he was originally considered an inspiring figure but he hasn't really managed to live up to the hype around him. Wouldn't rank him high here.

In terms of integrity he comes nowhere near last since he hasn't been impeached, perjured himself, lied about nukes or got caught cheating on his wife.

Overall I don't think he can be considered the worst US president, just a very mediocre one. A handful of presidents have lasting fame (Washington, Lincoln, Kennedy, Roosevelt etc.) or infamy (Nixon, Clinton) but I think that apart from historians the only thing people will remember about Obama 50 or 60 years from now is that he was the first black president.

Side: No

I think he has a done a great job. He is a lot better than several of our previous presidents and there will probably be presidents down the road who may be better than him. He is not a bad president, and he is certainly not the worst one we have had.

Side: No
1 point

You might think that he is the worst president because he doesn't do anything to do changes but there is a reason. You see even thought the president is thought to be the most powerful, he is not because he doesn't have the law making power so what does that mean? Well, Congress hold this power and since both the House of Representatives and the House of Senate are controlled by republicans, a democratic president like Obama cannot make any changes.

Side: No
KNHav(1957) Clarified
1 point

Thank God, he isn't supported. His Executive orders are distructive in the place of cooperation.

And he uses them oppressively, to our deferment.

He is the wort president ever because he is a treasonous enemy of true Americs.

Side: Yes
IAmSparticus(1516) Clarified
1 point

No, he isn't.

Stupid shit like that undermines all of us who have legitimate, adult issues with the current President.

Side: Yes
1 point

There is a lack of historical context whenever people label a current sitting President as the worst in history. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical rankingsofPresidentsoftheUnited_States

Side: No
1 point

Whilst he has been a disappointing President, he has been a good one, and even the things I disagree with him on aren't as bad as other Presidents. Just consider George W. Bush. He ignored memos saying Bin Laden was planning an attack which in turn meant the U.S were not prepared when he did attack. Then this led to his failed wars in the Middle East and contributed to the 2001 recession, which led to the Federal Reserve slashing interest rates and causing the bubble which crashed in 2008. This was particularly bad because he ran deficits in these good years, which is especially bad considering he inherited a surplus. He relaxed the debt to capital ratio, he clearly had no idea how to deal with the crisis either, not bailing out Lehmans, then when that was a disaster, bailing out the others. Not even mentioning his response to Katrina. Seriously, who thinks Obama, who has cut the deficit, grown the economy, has insurance rates at an all time high and healthcare inflation at its lowest for decades and has got unemployment down below 5% has done a worse job. Even the most ardent of Republicans can't deny Obama is the better President(unless they are racist or ignorant of both their records).

Side: No
1 point

no he has been amazing for America and he is so passionate about what he's done. I know he hasn't made the strongest decisions for the country but he has maintained the positivity and the greatness for the country and made them unite as one

Side: No