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Debate Score:27
Arguments:22
Total Votes:30
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Is Patriotism good or bad?

  

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Side Score: 9
3 points

Nothing is 100% good or bad. The most important thing is not to go crazy or extreme. As AustralianWritings.com.au wrote about politics, there are always at least 2 sides.

Side: Good
1 point

What people tend to do is confuse Nationalism and Patriotism. Patriotism is just the love for your country and culture, whilst Nationalism is an extreme love, an ideology, and that you think your country is superior to other countries. My view is that Patriotism is the mild side, while Nationalism is the exaggerated side. However Patriotism has bad sides to it, just like Nationalism has some good sides.

As mentioned by Cappraid, nothing is completely bad, nor good.

Side: Good
1 point

It could be either way. Let's not forget: "One man's terrorist is another man's patriot!" We're seeing a lot of that today, sadly in America! There used to be only ONE kind of patriot in America, the GOOD kind, and we were respected for that, worldwide. Today, with white supremacists, white nationalists, extremely greedy capitalists and a radical NRA (and let's not forget, a "President" that thinks Putin is a "fine person"), The "American patriot" is a confusing image to the rest of the world!

Side: Good
2 points

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Side: Good
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Side: Good
1 point

Like anything else it depends on how it's handled. Patriotism is a good thing, extremism in any form is a bad thing.

Side: Good
1 point

Patriotism is a good thing

It most certainly is NOT a good thing. It's the most stupid, ridiculous notion imaginable and it exists predominantly so that large crowds can be quickly mobilised for war. It's regressive, animalistic, and is no different than the tribalism we saw in earlier periods of human history.

Frequently I shudder at the sheer naivety of people in the west.

Side: Bad
1 point

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Side: Bad

I say mostly good. I'm not a super patriot, but I think our leaders should put our interests first; that's why we elected them.

You're welcome.

Side: Good
excon(14072) Disputed
2 points

I'm not a super patriot, but I think our leaders should put our interests first; that's why we elected them.

Hello High:

Dude! You are SOOOO wrong.. Patriotism isn't love for our leaders.. It's love for our country..

excon

Side: Bad
HighFalutin(3089) Clarified
1 point

I'm not expressing love for them, I'm saying they were elected to represent OUR best interests, ie, our country and it's citizens.

Side: Good
1 point

Dude! You are SOOOO wrong.. Patriotism isn't love for our leaders.. It's love for our country..

Your "country" is an abstract idea. It does not exist in objective reality. It's an arbitrary set of borders drawn by someone who conquered the land and killed all the previous inhabitants.

Side: Good
-1 points

Like religion, money, or a hammer, it can be misused to destructive ends. But there's nothing wrong with being proud of and loyal to your country and its ideals. As long as you're not being the kind of dickhead that's gassing Jews or something. That said, I look around, and I'm not seeing the next Auschwitz being built on American soil. If that ever happens, hey, I think we can all agree to go over there and blow it the fuck up.

Side: Good
BurritoLunch(3813) Clarified
1 point

But there's nothing wrong with being proud of and loyal to your country and its ideals

I'm afraid there is. You are placing an arbitrary "us and them" divider into the human race which does not belong there.

Side: Good
1 point

Completely bad. Countries will be destroyed for the One World Order in due course.

Side: Bad
5 points

You do understand that a "one world order" would be globalist and the opposite of Nationalist...

Side: Good
Mingiwuwu(1469) Clarified
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Yes, I know. I posted on the 'bad' side.

Side: Good
1 point

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Side: Bad