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Debate Score:13
Arguments:5
Total Votes:15
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Is Prayer Compatible with a Divine Plan?

I have always found it odd that people don't see an inherant contradiction in these two concepts, maybe it's just me. If there is a God and that God has a divine plan which dictatess everything that happens in the universe (the ol' everything happens for a reason statement) what is the point of making a divine plan if any person could come along and screw it up it by praying for a change in the world. Even if you pray for something to happen, like praying for some schmuck's dad to recover from cancer, how will someone's whining and complaining about the cruel twist in God's plan make God change his mind. If there i a God and he has a plan, prayer wouldn't be capable of changing anything. 

 

 

So what do you think on the matter, is the concept of a perfect divine plan compatible with prayer?

Yes

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Side Score: 12
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yes, but only if u consider prayer outside of asking god 4 a favor. if prayer is just talking 2 god 4 spiritual enrichment, then its compatible.

however, i dont see how free will is compatible with a divine plan.

Side: yes
5 points

George Carlin touches on prayer vs. the "divine" plan in this legendary bit:

Religion is Bullshit
Side: No
3 points

<3 Carlin. I wish i could up vote that so many times more than possible. On June 22, 2008 humanity lost a brilliant voice, someone who was capable not just of making us laugh, but also making us think. If anyone hasn't watched this or any of Carlin's videos I highly recommend you do so, absolutely brilliant work.

Side: No
2 points

The sad thing is: I didn't get into his comedy until after his death. When I finally discovered his material, I looked him up on Google to see what he was currently working on. Then I saw: "George Carlin: May 12, 1937 – June 22, 2008." I read that and I said, "That's not fair...."

Side: No
2 points

".....and if you do any of these 10 things, he has a special place full of fire and burning and smoke and torture and anguish where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'till the end of time!.......But he loves you."

XD Man, I miss this guy.

Side: No