Is School (High School/College) Really Worth It?
Yes It Is
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yes it is because school is required for everyone and everywhere, although some people may not like school they will still have to go ether way. Until college or 12th grade. school will help you get a job in the future, it could get you some were or it can't. but school will help you thought life no matter what. school can get you a job or even a big house someday if your job pays off. Side: Yes It Is
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Two reasons for school being worth it: 1. Salary There are of course opportunities to make lots of money without either high-school/college, but the chances are very slim. Median weekly earnings without completing high school are about $493, which adds up to about $25, 636 a year. Try counting in retirement, car, house, a phone, and so much more into that equation and that's really not a lot of money. Going to high school on average earns you $678 a week. Annual is about $35,256. Just with high school you make $10k more a year. If you go to college and don’t get a degree, you get $738 per week, $38,376 per year. With an associate degree $41,496 annually. Bachelor’s degree $59,124 annually. (All of these are averages. You will likely make more/less.) It only gets better from there, and I'd much rather $59k than $25k. 2. A better education is scientifically related to better health and/or a longer life. In the United States, each additional year of education reduces the risk of death in the next decade by 3.6 percent. In Sweden, research has shown that the risk of bad health is lowered by over 18 percent with an another year of education (Information from https://www.elc-pa.org/wp-content/ Obviously, there are many more benefits, but these are some very strong ones that make me side with school being worth it. Side: Yes It Is
Hello again, m: I see that LOTS of your respondents think an education will automatically turn into a good life.. Sorry to inform you, young people, but it's just NOT true.. An education will get you in the door, but after that, it's performance. If you can't execute, you'll be right out that door. excon Side: Yes It Is
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Not necessarily. There are many people who you all probably know that didn't go to high school or college and were very successful in like/ got a good job. This can include people like Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, the list goes on. It is not necessarily a NEED, it's more like an increase in your chances. Of course, an extremely slim amount of people are going to be million/billionaires if we don't go to college/high school, but you get the gist of what I'm trying to say. None of this is possible without dedication and hard work, but that's just a whole other story to this debate. Side: No Its Not
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School (high school/college) IS worth it because it helps you too get good jobs and have a good life so you wont have to be homeless and live on the streets. School is also worth it because it maybe the only time where you can meet your friends or maybe get out of the house from somebody you live with that is mean to you or annoying. It's also worth it because you might want to pursue your dreams like, being a technician, or a music teacher, or a secretary, or a lawyer. Side: Yes It Is
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Yes, it can help you get a good-paying job (also look at my arguments of student loans for some reasons why this may not pay off...) but also in many cases college doesn't help you become yourself. If you THINK you want a career in medical and then you get over 25K in loans and spend all your college savings of going to college for that, your practically forced into being medical even if it turns out you don't really like it. College isn't for learning WHAT you want to do. It's more like it's deciding what you are going to do. AND, you can learn a lot about yourself doing things outside of school. Side: No Its Not
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For some people, graduate school has a major impact in advancing their career. For others, a graduate degree may have minimal effect on their earnings and career trajectory. Attending school might still be worth it intellectually, but try not to decide without doing the analysis and the math. School is important for education. You need to know how to add, subtract, multiply, etc. But I think that schools really need to change. Teachers should be teaching kids about the real world and problems in it. I think that a lot of teachers can be really hard on students and that also needs to change. Side: Yes It Is
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For some people, graduate school has a major impact in advancing their career. For others, a graduate degree may have minimal effect on their earnings and career trajectory. Attending school might still be worth it intellectually, but try not to decide without doing the analysis and the math. School is important for education. You need to know how to add, subtract, multiply, etc. But I think that schools really need to change. Teachers should be teaching kids about the real world and problems in it. I think that a lot of teachers can be really hard on students and that also needs to change. Side: Yes It Is
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For some people, graduate school has a major impact in advancing their career. For others, a graduate degree may have minimal effect on their earnings and career trajectory. Attending school might still be worth it intellectually, but try not to decide without doing the analysis and the math. School is important for education. You need to know how to add, subtract, multiply, etc. But I think that schools really need to change. Teachers should be teaching kids about the real world and problems in it. I think that a lot of teachers can be really hard on students and that also needs to change. Side: Yes It Is
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yes, because For some people, graduate school has a major impact in advancing their career. For others, a graduate degree may have minimal effect on their earnings and career trajectory. Attending school might still be worth it intellectually, but try not to decide without doing the analysis and the math. School is important for education. You need to know how to add, subtract, multiply, etc. But I think that schools really need to change. Teachers should be teaching kids about the real world and problems in it. I think that a lot of teachers can be really hard on students and that also needs to change. Side: Yes It Is
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Alright, that's nice, but really? You are inspired, sure but that doesn't mean you'll do anything. When I was 6 I was inspired to find a dragon egg in the forest near my house, which a. will never happen, and 2 will be given up on very soon. And that's only for some people, others may hate school and want to leave every second. How is that inspirational? This is very much an opinion. Side: No Its Not
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School MAY help you establish independence, but it is not guaranteed to. IN school, teacher help you, you can find support with your friends, your parents still pay the bills, finance mostly everything, s=drive you there ( or you take the bus most of the time unless yur a senior/driver), etc etc. There is much more independence to be gained from getting your own job, paying your own bills, and learning things for yourself without the complete hepl of your teacher, friends, parents, etc. Also, there are plenty of skills you can get from things like an apprenticeship, internship, or the military out-of-school. Side: No Its Not
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You only do thing out of school if you try, sign up, and get to do those things in school. Just because you go to school you are guaranteed to learn things or be able to do more things. In some cases going to college does not get you a good job, and it could turn out bad if you don't do well. It is no guarantee. Side: No Its Not
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It takes hard work to get this said successful job and that also depends on your degree and career choice, etc. Also, if you have a bunch of student loans from working hard and taking years of college to get this "successful job" (which may also be competitive to get the job) it may be a while before you get a car/house, or you'll be drowning in debt you can't keep up with even with your good job if you get loans for house, car, etc. (Especially is you get fired, have kids, medical bills, etc etc et) Side: No Its Not
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For some people, it may be hard to make friends in school, and not all people have opportunities to do school sports. It may because they simply don't have a ride or because they don't have time counting homework. And even in some cases, the school doesn't have a team for sports/many sports or options to help you juggle schoolwork and sports. Side: No Its Not
If you are reading this, you would be asking the same question, is school and college worth it or it just waste your time on Fortnite, Minecraft, CS:GO, and Roblox, well if you are one of those people who waste time on only ps4 and doesn't like any other home console platform, school is required to succeed in life and is very important for these reasons. 1: To start you would think that calculus is a useless thing that will serve no purpose in your life, well guess what you will eventually get to a situation where you need to use it. 2: There are some classes that open more rooms for jobs than others because you are learning even more things than you think in some classes. 3: learning is important because it helps you get better at understanding things so we can improve on things. In conclusion with these reasons school should be recommended to anyone if the education is good. Side: Yes It Is
the main function of a school is - Socialization. Socialization refers to a process by which individuals acquire a personal identity and learn the knowledge, language, and social skills required to interact with others. Again, students don't only learn from the academic curriculum prepared by teachers and school administrators. Side: Yes It Is
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I think that education is still important at any time, but in what format it will be received, it is worth deciding to everyone personally. Education has its disadvantages, but also its pluses. In any case, this is a rather laborious process and if you need help with this, then this platform https://au.edusson.com/ Side: Yes It Is
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Is School (High School/College) Really Worth It? For the price of College now, young people could instead use that money to fully buy a townhouse/condo, car, motorcycle, big screen tv(s), video games system(s), movies, thousands of good books, (weight) training equipment that would make Hercules jealous, telescope(s) that Galileo & Newton would have done anything for, advanced microscope(s), king/queen sized bed, big party couch, a bunch of other nice stuff, and not need to work much at all (unless they want to) by their mid twenties if the money were re-directed from down the drain to useful things. One can't blame the American system for people not liking their personal choices with how they spend their money & time. Modern America is not a tough place to live in for people who have a plan that makes some kind of sense and execute accordingly--there may be some rough patches early on (or here and there) while figuring things out and trying to save up, but that is (should be) a temporary phase(s). Side: No Its Not
No. On a simple google search that took 10 seconds I found that the average price for college is $34,740 at private colleges, $9,970 for state residents at public colleges, and $25,620 for out-of-state residents attending public universities. Of course this can be much more, but that would also leave you with a crap ton of student loans. Average price of a home is $188,900. This is an AVERAGE house, not counting the whole list of things you explained. In my argument for the "Yes It Is" side, I explain median salaries. Of course your not getting a salary like the ones I've listen for high school+college grads without effort, but I don't think your getting ALL of these things you've listed here and still being able to live a comfortable life (with money for retirement, children [not saying you are going to or have to have children], car, etc) without a well-paying job. AND, the government/banks are not going to loan you enough money to get all of that if you don't have a good salary. Maybe in the long run you could get all these things, but that means earning money, most likely good money to live a comfortable life until that point where you can get/have all of this. As I've said, there ARE opportunities for good jobs without HS/College, but with that comes a lot of hard work and effort. Side: Yes It Is
@zbutzke23 The average college tuition and fees + books at any particular state's big public school is about $15,000 with housing, food, living expenses, etc. easily coming in at another $15,000 (to be conservative with the numbers). Now, the average student is now spending about 6 years on their Undergrad (for a variety of reasons). Then, the typical total college price tag is in the ballpark of $180,000. A person can easily find a nice condo in a nice area for $100,000 (less than that even, or move up another $50,000 and get a townhouse), brand new Honda Civic for $19,000, Kawaski Ninja 300 for $5000, great microscope and telescope for $1000 (or less), 55" tv for $400 (or get a 70" and a couple other big screens for a few thousand more), on Betterworldbooks.com, Thriftbooks.com, & Half Priced bookstores you can get used books, movies, video games, etc. for $3 (or less), thus can get a thousand books, movies, games, etc. for $3000, game systems and controllers for $500 (or less), power racks, Olympic bar, weights, dumbbells, kettlebells, weight vests, punching bag, etc. for easily $2000 or less, king sized bed for $500 or less, "party couch" for $1000 or less, and laptop, kindle, mp3 player, etc. for $1000 or less. Then, that totals about $135,000--which would still leave $45,000 left in the bank. Side: No Its Not
1st Claim: Don't have to worry about student loans. Student loans on average are about $18k to $27k that you have to pay. This number can be more or less. This will greatly take out of your pay before you pay off all then loans, and can effect your credit score if you don't pay on time. This can also effect you psychologically, in the link I found that “In a survey of more than 1,000 student loan borrowers, we dug deep on the psychological effects of debt — specifically, student loan debt. More than 61 percent of respondents said they fear their student loan debt worries are spiraling out of control — and more than 70 percent reported suffering from headaches due to the stress of it.” Side: No Its Not
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Student loans are after you pay your saved money, and they can be around 25k. You'd have to be in a prettty rich family if you had no student loans or get an insanely good job, both of which are very rare. Also, it's not just student loans you ahve to pay when you get out of school. Acount for medical bills, a family (maybe), a house, taxes, a car, etc, then you have the leftover for other expenses and then student loans due on top of that. It's not "easier and faster than you think." Side: No Its Not
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You CAN become an athlete straight out of high school, but it really isn't that easy. I did a quick google search and professional sports teams usually notice players in college sports. If you really want a professional athletic career, college is a very good option for you that can help you in the long run A LOT. Of course talent comes into play, but college also simply increases your chances and gets you noticed. Side: Yes It Is
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a. People honestly don't judge you as much as you think they may. And if it really shouldn't matter so much that they are judging, as long as your doing your best. Yes, the work is boring, but that is no reason why school isn't worth it. Everything in life has something boring you need to get through to get to the good at some point. School is simply no different and just has a few longer boring aspects to work through. Not saying school isn't boring (because it absolutely is), I'm just saying that I disagree for that beign a reason why school 'isn't worth it'. Side: Yes It Is
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For some people, graduate school has a major impact in advancing their career. For others, a graduate degree may have minimal effect on their earnings and career trajectory. Attending school might still be worth it intellectually, but try not to decide without doing the analysis and the math. School is important for education. You need to know how to add, subtract, multiply, etc. But I think that schools really need to change. Teachers should be teaching kids about the real world and problems in it. I think that a lot of teachers can be really hard on students and that also needs to change. Side: No Its Not
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Claim 2: There are still many good jobs you can get Without graduating HS or college you can get good paying jobs like...: Carpenter - Median annual pay: $36,900. General manager, restaurant - Median annual pay is $43,900. Automotive service technician (mechanic)- Median annual pay is $35,600. Side: No Its Not
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Yes, but a lot of that money you get from this 'good paying job' goes into your student loans, and these jobs you can keep your whole life as well. TO top that off, whose to say you can't make even more/a bunch more money than this with raises, etc. There are many chances for an equal paying job not going to HS/College as going to HS/COllege Side: No Its Not
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Claim three is within high school and even collage they have popularity ranks or they have to try to fit in to their friend group or others around them and that may lead to be pressured into things that they may not want to do or making bad choices just to fit in. but if they don't go to school they won't have to have that risk of being pressured into doing things to fit in with the people around them. Side: No Its Not
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Depends. If you have a plan and know why you're going to college (as a necessary way station in pursuing a specific desired career), then yes, it's a good thing. If you're still figuring out what you're going to do with your life then don't bother. Growing up, everyone tells you "go to college, it's the only way to get ahead in life!" These people are full of shit. Going to college without direction is a great way to end up with a liberal arts degree, six figures of debt you can't declare bankruptcy on, and still land a crappy job that barely keeps the lights on. Go learn a trade. Go join the military. Go do some damn thing that sucks, but is gratifying until you know what you actually want to do with your life. You can still make a decent living without a degree, in some cases, a better living. Me? I joined the Navy. I'm debt free, and putting good food on the table for my family. About 2 years ago I realized, "Hey!...I want to sell guns. I want to open a gun store." So now, that's my direction, as soon as my contract is up. Now I know exactly why I need to accumulate that debt, for a technical degree in business (having the GI bill doesn't hurt either). That's a good reason to go to college. As far as high school: seriously, finish it. That one you really do need if you're going anywhere. And it's free. Not much else is. Side: No Its Not
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Ok, high school is somewhat worthwhile. College??🤔. Jury definitely out on college!! I mean medical degrees will pay you back, but a lot of degrees are totally fucking useless and not only that - leaves you in a shit load of debt!! Most colleges are legal gyp joints. Side: No Its Not
Claim 3: There are many alternative to HS/College Starting a business: There are 27.9 million small business owners in the U.S. It's easier than ever to start a small business, and all you need is a computer and internet if you want to do it from home Apprenticeship/fellowship: Apprenticeships offer the opportunity to learn a trade in an in-demand field. And unlike many internships, you get paid. Fellowships offer a select few people a bunch of money to skip college and pursue a business idea, and be mentored by the world's top scientists, researchers, and business leaders. (Only 20 or so people per program.) Military:Competitive salary, free health care and little-to-no living costs. The military will pay your tuition while in service. Soldiers have access to a variety of online learning options. Once your service is complete, you can also use the GI Bill to pay for part of your tuition. They also offer retirement with benefits after 20 years of service. Side: No Its Not
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You have not yet given one reason in that why high school isn't worth it. Of course it's boring at points and tedious, but think about long run. "I dropped out because I didn't care" isn't really that valid of a reason. If everyone did that, economy would be horrible. It would help if you gave a factual reason for your side for me and others to understand more than you didn't care about your dropout and school. Side: Yes It Is
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