Is Sunday the Sabbath?
***Assuming God exists***, and that the Bible is factual, which day is the real Sabbath. Mainstream Christianity has been worshiping on Sunday since the 800s. However, the Bible says the Sabbath is on Saturday, the seventh day of the week.
Arguments for Sunday: When Jesus died on the cross, He abolished the Old Testament (OT) laws. Thus, the law indicating worship on Saturday has been abolished as well, and we worship on Sunday to remember His ressurection.
Arguments for Saturday: The Sabbath was created on the seventh day of Creation, when God rested and sanctified it. It was a 'law' long before Moses recieved the 10 Commandments or wrote down the 600-and-some other laws, the very laws abolished by Christ's sacrifice. Jesus was known to teach and worship on the seventh day, as were all his desciples thereafter. And since the seven-day week has been special to some people (as there were righteous people all throughout history until Christ, and then the Jews have kept pretty good tabs on things), we can assume the seventh day of the week hasn't been changed over time.
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Yes sunday is the sabbath day! thats why we get the day off in order to worship the Lord and rest! Sunday also marks the beginnig of the week! although the worldly belief says that monday is the start of the week, but i have no desire for the material or worldly things because they won't ever get me to heaven!
Yes sunday is the sabbath day! thats why we get the day off in order to worship the Lord and rest!
"And God blessed the seventh day and declared it holy, because it was the day when he rested from his work of creation."
the worldly belief says that monday is the start of the week, but i have no desire for the material or worldly things because they won't ever get me to heaven!
How does Monday have to do with material or worldly things?
From what I read, Saturday is the Sabbath day, and Sunday is the Lord's day - two different days both having significance to believers.
Saturday is the original day of rest from Genesis. Sunday, which has long been a religious day in Roman pagan religions (the day of the Sun), was adopted by early Christians to be their religious day as well. They never "changed" the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday; they were just changing the day they gathered to worship.
I have to say though, I didn't know this question even existed until minutes ago. I've always counted Monday as the start of the week, and assumed that Sunday (the seventh day as far as I'm concerned) was the day God rested o_o
I've always counted Monday as the start of the week, and assumed that Sunday
Monday? I was under the impression most calendars started on Sunday. At least the Jewish calendar does, and they've been keeping track of these things.
I like that you're not Christian, because then you can see the Bible objectively. Most Catholics would argue that Sunday is the sabbath. You look at the Bible and see Saturday is. I like that.
Most Catholics would argue that Sunday is the sabbath.
Actually Catholics completely disregard the Sabbath because it is a ceremonial law that lost it's relevance with the crucification of Christ, along with others in the pentituke (like clean and unclean meats, side burn cutting, cloth weaving, etc...). But they do recognize Saturday as the Sabbath.
Furthermore, I believe your debate description contains an error. You mentioned that Christians didn't start worshiping on Sunday until 800 AD, but there is evidence in the bible that Paul was meeting with the disciples on Sunday (which was well before 800 AD).
The Spanish word for Saturday is actually "Sabado" which is based on the Latin sabbatum, and from Hebrew šabbāt. The Sabbath is the last day of the week, which occurs on Saturday, Sunday is actually the first day of the week.
Where sunday as the sabbath came from I cannot say.
God created and sanctified the seventh day as holy before Noah, Abraham or Moses were born. It was wrong to murder when Cain murdered Abel. It was wrong to commit adultery when the wife of Joseph's employer tried to seduce him. The Ten Commandments were in effect before Israel was born or became a nation. God wrote the Ten Commandments Himself on the stone tablets. Moses wrote down the other laws. In 70 A.D. the Temple was destroyed and the Romans destroyed Israel. That was the end of many of the nation of Israel as it was to be since Moses. Mosaic laws had to do with the temple and direct worship of God. The Levitical priesthood was no more relevant because there was no temple, and no more sacrifices, because only God could designate a holy place for the sacrifices to be made. Many of the laws that Moses wrote down applied to the nation of Israel and had to do with ceremonial obligations. Theses laws served as a tutorial awaiting the Messiah. The Ten Commandments were separate from these and other laws, and NEVER were abolished. ALL TEN COMMANDMENTS ARE STILL IN EFFECT! It was wrong to murder, steal and commit adultery before Moses, and it is still wrong to do these things. All of the Ten Commandments are in effect today. Do the research and you will find that nowhere in the Bible does it say that God abolished the Ten Commandments , or that the Sabbath day was changed from Saturday to Sunday. Many of the arguments lack logic and diligent research and scholarship.