Is There a God?
Does God exist? With no arm twisting, would you like the straightforward reasons that people believe in God?
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So, did you even go to a school? There is this thing called science that actually has evidence and proof for it's conclusions. Of coarse some dimwit in a dress knows more about the workings of the universe than hundreds of years of research and experimentation.
That is some powerful stupid.
Yes, there is a god, but i do not think it is an entity, can it take the form of an entity? You bet, ive come across god many times in my experiences with people, and what i can say about god is that it is something we all have within, god is interconnected between everything, and you either realize this, or you dont.
God is the feeling and experience of life, i look at the world and see explanation for everything, which is all part of a conscious thing, but explaining how consciousness does this and that, is not the same as experiencing the consciousness for what it truly is- which is infinite. I think if you watch this video you will understand what god really is, and what our potential can become: http://perceivingreality.com/
Yes God definitely exists, the proof are us complex human beings with freewill and our complex minds are proof, nature is proof in how beautiful it is, pi and the golden ratio are proof of beautiful design, animals are proof, the vast universe, the fact that when push comes to shove and even knowing that we're (mankind) is a speck in this infinite universe, yet we're still the special ones, we're still the ones asking questions, no other species that we know of is even close to the magnitude that mankind has been living in its existence.
That doesn't even make sense. How does pi prove a god? It HAS to be pi, because that is how circles work.
Is the world so amazing that you can't even find a real explanation?
It is amazing, but I see no god. Only the mysteries of life and the universe, waiting to be explored.
Totally agree with you. Human beingsa re foolish. They beleive only in what they see.Many people think that nothing is perfect but they do not see this http://www.youtube.com/
Is there God? Yes. The people from Science would definitely raise an eyebrow, but even they know there's God. In their terms, they call it Nature. God or Nature, whatever we call it, refers to the supernatural power that rules the world. Whenever Science fails to account for something, we call in this supernatural power, and that's basically what the layman calls as God.
It is the power that ignites life in living things, and is responsible for creation of universe. Even the laws of physics obeys the rules of Nature. So there is definitely some supernatural power that is responsible for the existence of life on our planet.
Are you insane?
The supernatural isn't real, and all chemical interaction within cells can be identified and studied.
If cells were truly supernaturally formed, why is there natural action now?
What you say sounds like bogus conspiracy theories.
"It has to exist because it makes sense to me!"
It's just a crock of shit to get people to believe in your insane "god did it" bullshit.
Try to LEARN something first.
Yes..., and He created this:
If you are a person who is really interested in studying this subject ( and if you aren't then why are you even reading this debate?) then you should read "It Couldn't Just Happen." It helped me understand how incredible our world is and how it must be a product of intricate design.
Also, are you joking? That book seems to be riddled with basic errors and incompetency.
Are you sure you wish to recommend that book? Or are you an undercover atheist trying to make Christians look dumb and uneducated? That's not exactly fair.
I am a Christian. I believe this is a fine book to recommend. I did not recommend it for someone to look at the cover or read reviews of. I recommended it for someone to read. You have already passed judgment on the contents of the book. Judging a book by its cover, if you will. (The book SEEMS to be...)
If you are not a Christian but wish to learn about Christianity and why people believe it, then you would be willing to read a book that has God's name in the title and also is sort of a science book. You would be willing to read it without getting angry and being unhappy about the fact that it is defending Christianity.
If you do not wish to learn about Christianity and why people believe it, then why are you even in this forum?
I don't wish to make Christians look dumb and uneducated. This is a high school level book, so it is written in a slightly easier-to-read way (I'm not sure why you say it would make Christians look dumb and uneducated, but this is the only thing I could come up with).
I have actually read the book so I think I have more right to talk about what is in it.
I recommend this book because when I was in 7th grade I read and it helped me understand what I believe and why.
What if ...
it could just happen?
What if it did? What if this amazing complexity did come from a nonliving, non-sentient source? What if the big bang simply assembled galaxies and stars and planets only from gravity, if atoms are held together by the natural nuclear force, what if life can form from electricity passing through certain nonliving molecules, and then evolve into wondrous species?
What if the universe is like that, despite how strange it seems? Wouldn't that be fascinating?
The evidence certainly points towards that.
I find it amazing that people find it easier to believe in a big bang. Just a bang. with no rhyme or reason. creating not just the earth but the known and unknown of the universes. No it wouldn't be fascinating. It would be depressing. Life itself would have no meaning. I would not have been created with a purpose or out of love or anything just chance.
"The evidence certainly points towards that." What evidence points toward that?
Since man cant explain all things by science and much of science is theoretical - looking for proof is like looking for the needle, Belief in God is a matter of faith, given that it cant be proven one way or the other then we must ask ourselves what is the most likely explanation. The Earth and all the syatems working within it seem to me (an engineer) to have been designed and constructed which must have had a designer. As it says in Genesis God Created it he therefore is the designer and manufacturer. and lets face it if you make something don't you just love it!!!!!
Then why did he send plagues against Egypt, his children?
Why did he flood the earth and kill off all people, except a few in the same book?
Why does he allow war in his name?
Why does he allow suffering that could be easily stopped?
Whoever creates it gets to destroy it, right?
Yes He did but in most of those case Man brought it opon himself but since you probably havent read up on the subject the plagues you refer to and indeed The Ark were Old Testament - after the coming of Jesus God promised he would no longer interfere. The suffering you refer to is due to people like you who dont believe in Jesus and God.... He only helps thse who help themselves so it seems. try praying for enlightenment - in your own words!!!
As JFK said "Ask not what your country can do for you - but what can you do for your country"
God does exist, as life was created for a reason. if atheists believe their notions, then they think that all life including ourselves are an accident, a cosmic coincidence. I don't think so. I believe that there is a god and he is constantly watching and us, as we are his creation.
Hey Guys! I agree that there is such a thing as god, but in many different forms. Nature is just another form of god. God is our believe. He has created us, you say evolution but its just a theory. But not confirmed fully.
I shall give an example; Water.
Water in english is 'Water'.
But Water in Chinese is '水'.
Water in Malay is 'air'.
Water in Tamil is 'தண்ணீர்'.
You can clearly see that it is water, but look at the different names it has from different languages. All of it mean the same thing. Other religions have different names for their gods. But they are all the same. Atheist calls it Science.
But then why call it god?
If nature is nature, and there is no evidence for the supernatural, then why call it a god or angel or demon or spirit?
Why not just call it a beautiful, vast universe, filled with life and stars and light?
It is the same to us mortals. It is not as if you look up at night and see god's face and it talks to you. There is no god, only stars.
You could call stars the face of god in the night, but why? It is metaphorical there, and if you wish for real knowledge, then you would know that they are not actually faces of gods, but only stars, of which you can find out how they work and why they are there.
It is much more fascinating in my opinion to call the universe the universe, and enjoy it for what it is, rather than for what I wish it was.
Well have you been to the universe and experienced it yourself? No. Same as for seeing god. No one has ever seen god, but why do we believe in him, cause he teaches us good ethics and moral values. No one said it is wrong to not believe in god, or the real life. But The things around you is only reinforced by people, which they think its true, cause thats the best option in their mind. How is it that thousands of years ago, during the starting stages of civilization like the Chandra Gupta Dynasty, Aryabhatta who was a mathematician and astronomer, was able to find out the motions of the solar systems, and earths rotation, without using advanced tools. That is because they were driven by the force of god, due to their passion, they want to continue learning more and proving themselves to others.
I believe in God. I also believe in the role science plays in our societies. This argument is based upon absolutes that we truly have no realistic reference points to make such claims. Confused? I base my stance on faith, I feel, sense, smell, taste, and see the wonders of God all around me and it is great. But if you look at this from a purely impartial point... Technically we would both be wrong. So as I state this it does come out hypocritically for I know that I am according to this theory for I believe in something that can not be proven until death. But I stay the faith in God and Jesus regardless of what man and woman do or say.
Then I believe you appreciate every detail and beauty of life.. I think anyone can respect that.. but it really isnt that difficult to have that same appreciation without using God as a reason. Why not just the value of life.. In which we have a spiritual connections with ourself and the world around us. which is a gift all humans and all life posses regardless of religion.
I would ask if there is not a creator of all things, then how did life begin? If all things created signal a intelligence, how did information come from random chance? If not for a God to give morality then why do people care about right or wrong?
Yes there is a God!
People do not want to reconize God because they do not want to answer for their wickedness. They do not want to answer for their greed. They do not want to answer for immorality.
Of course there is a God. Only fools believe otherwise. The question isn't is there a God but how can a physical person communicate with a nonphysical/spiritual entity. Does one not agree that you as an individual do not keep your lungs exhaling/inhaling while you sleep or your heart pumping blood through your veins? Do not your inherent faculties function independent of you and your governance? What is that running the show then? The hidden power is not life itself but rather the life giver for many things are dead but have they not also been created or if you prefer do they not also exist? Think not that there is no God, for your mind is then limited to only what you have conjured but think openly and with prudence.
Any proof he doesn't? Prove it with actual scientific fact(it will involve finding out every speck of knowledge from where one atom moved from to what lies beyond hyperspace and how it was made to why the world works exactly how it does to meeting aliens and discussing it with them to allot of other stuff you need to discover that you need to discover about. Long process ,just believe that he does(better safe than sorry) :D
God does in fact exist, they have been able to prove every known religion false, they have proven evolution false, they are not able to prove the bible false it is 100% accurate, they have not been able to prove Christianity false, watch the video "A Case for a Creator"
yes there is a god.it may be any religion every religion believes in god. god is there or else how the human kind,plants and every thing is created?any evidences are not there there is no god.if god is not there how the revelations have come to holy books. majority of people living in the world believes in god.if we certainly get a shocking news we just say,Oh!my god. if god is not there then why god word comes out of mouth.
No one can say? I can say there are no proofs, humans have been waiting for over a thousand years for the predicted events in the Bible to no avail. Should we just forever for these to happen, and hope for the best? I apologize, but I don't think this is an accurate claim of yours.
God as in the general concept of one would be a philosophical question of which i consider there to be sufficient proof to rationally accept the plausible existence of God.
The existence of an involved "creator" style God also seems probable to me and i find the salvation theory in christianity to be the most plausible.
Since you guys think there is no such thing as god. Let me ask you this question. When you were born, your parents teach you the proper way of eating and wearing clothes etc. You do not know before you were born, but only when someone told you. How is it that you are able to believe that but not the existence of god?
You maybe thinking that there are many different types of gods, but i think there is only one god who came in different forms, to address each and everyone of you, to define who you are. For example there is two boys in the school with the same name, but different looks. They use the looks to define who you are, not with your name. Its the same concept. God is there to define us, to show who we are, to give us a steady path in life.
I seem to recall you saying that you were not an atheist, but that you were agnostic. But judging by your position, it now appears as if you are an agnostic atheist. You do not believe a god exists, but you believe it is still possible that a god exists.
Also, it appears that if you do find out that a creator exists, that he is not a personal god.
The Atheist, A Bear And God
An atheist was walking through the woods, admiring all that the
"accidents" that evolution had created.
"What majestic trees! What powerful rivers! What beautiful animals!" he
said to himself.
As he was walking alongside the river he heard a rustling in the bushes
behind him. Turning to look, he saw a 7-foot grizzly bear charge towards
He ran as fast as he could up the path. He looked over his shoulder
and saw the grizzly was closing.
Somehow, he ran even faster, so scared that tears came to his eyes. He
looked again and the bear was even closer.
His heart was pounding and he tried to run faster. He tripped and fell
to the ground. He rolled over to pick himself up but the bear was right
over him, reaching for him with its left paw and raising its right paw
At that instant the atheist cried, "Oh my God...!"
Time stopped. The bear froze. The forest was silent.
Even the river stopped moving.
As a bright light shone upon the man, a voice came out of the sky,
"You deny my existence for all these years, teach others that I don't exist
and even credit creation to a cosmic accident. Do you expect me to help
you out of this predicament? Am I to count you as a believer?"
The atheist looked directly into the light, "It would be hypocritical to
ask to be religious after all these years, but perhaps you could make
the bear religious?"
"Very well" said the voice.
The light went out. The river ran. The sounds of the forest resumed.
..and then the bear dropped his right paw, brought both paws together
and bowed its head and spoke: "Lord, for this food which I am about to
receive, I am truly thankful..."
Exactly , indeed . God bless you. i beleive that the god exists , but as many others i can not surely explain it. Everything created by god serves human beings. The Sun , Moon , Nature , Earth all serve to us and it would be disrespect to God if we do not beleive in Him.
No, there is no such thing as God.
If God truly exist he will exist with us.
But he doesn't, god is just an unrealistic being created through a human's imaginative mind or belief.
They say God created the world but where is the proof?
Their only proof is their book which is the bible.
How could they be so sure that whatever is written in the bible is true?
What if they made a mistake? The bible probably is just an old fictional novel written by creative writers. Now, how can they support their argument?
Since we cant even explain how gravity works or begin to duplicate even the most simple of God designs like Evaporation and desalination of the sea condensation into rain and precipitation to give us drinking water. looking for proof either way is probably impossible. What you should try is to decide is, what is the most likely cause of the earths complex systems. For example if you visited a scrapyard and found in its middle a cutting edge passenger Jet, would you assume that a whirlwind must have passed through the scrapyard and assembled it by chance or would you think it had been designed and manufactured and transported to the scrapyard due to Health and Safety Legislation :)
As I have said we humans would know I meant ALL OF THE HUMAN KIND,and what you are saying that some of us do know,is not correct statement because all you know are only stories and various interpretations about God and what God is and what God is not..
DO YOU HAVE 100% PROVE THAT GOD DOES EXIST!!!???
Talking and writing about it and having many theological interpretations and stories is not the prove for whole human kind...
Do People Intervene? More importantly do you intervene? The world would be a much better place if people asked themselves that question? Instead of blaming God for everything as though they are mindless dummies who have no power to shape the world they live in whether they do it in a classroom, their homes, their neighborhoods, or even at a national level. Perhaps people should stop having million dollar weddings for their puppies and comparing the cost of their child's slippers while others don't have potable water. Of course it's their democratic right to do as they please but a little humanity could co a long way. to the average person; stop buying every color of one top in one style and help someone else. Of course, however, you can do as you see fit. Who am I to say?
See I'm pretty sure you value you free will and you prefer to have it versus being controlled and having every decision made for you. I do. The problem is that free will is ubiquitous; it's everybody's gift and right. The other more pressing problem is that every action or word said affects another human being. We all know that but not many of us care. People seem to equate lack of perfection in the world with the non-existence of a God. Why does understanding the mechanics behind the solar system or reproduction more specifically human reproduction make it any less of a miracle especially in light of all the knowledge we have yet to acquire as it regards the utter perfection in which the earth functions; the sheer synchronicity of it all.
People may think me silly for believing in a God or see it as a surrender of my intellectual abilities but hey if you think a big bang or theories of that ilk can account for all that you see around you ; if that is more plausible to you who am I to say nay?
Yes, but that's wrong.
There is no evidence. You're a damned liar and you will surely buuuuurn in hell for it.
As we can see, being prayed for actually lead to more complications. You are wrong.