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Debate Score:253
Arguments:139
Total Votes:312
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Is USA awesome or what ?

Yes

Side Score: 122
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No

Side Score: 131
7 points

I think yes! I the grand scheme of things America is awesome. However uncertain we are right now I think we can all apreciate the freedoms that we have, The history involved in gewtting those fredoms and the lives lost as well. Asmuch as we go through bad times. America always seems to bounce back and it is because of the ingenuity and hard work of Americans that it happens. That is afterall the real Awesomeness of America. It's people!

Side: yes
skipper1001(5) Disputed
1 point

I would dispute that you bounce back because of your people, you bounce back because you are pretty much twice the size of anyone else!

Side: No
4 points

Our achievements are unmatched in the modern era, so yes we are awesome. We led the way for freedom in the world starting with our revolution, we have problem but that's never gonna end. Problems are a fact of life.

Side: yes
garry77777(1794) Disputed
3 points

"Our achievements "

Whose achievements, yours? it seems to me that you don't mind taking credit for other peoples acheivements. The fact most americans do this, they think that because they were born into the world's most dominant powet that somehow they had somthing to with it just by being born there, and this is exactly what the real owners of the country want as it perpetuates the kind of nationalism that prevents any serious critique of their rule.

"We led the way for freedom in the world"

No, you have taken the truth and inverted it, the real truth is that every where you have gone you have systamatically prevented real democracy from taking hold, name a country that you feel the US has brought freedom to, please indulge me.

Side: No
Uspwns101(444) Disputed
1 point

To name a few Poland and South Korea. My hometown recently recieved a sculpture from the Pomeranian region of Poland thanking our veterans for their help in liberating Poland during WWII. The worlds oldest republic with clearly defined freedoms and rights from the very begininng can be safely said to have led the way for freedom.

Side: yes
Axmeister(4317) Disputed
1 point

"Our achievements are unmatched in the modern era, "

You could say that about any great nation in history, The British Empire was unmatched in their modern era, The Roman Empire was unmatched in their modern era.

Oh, and in case you haven't noticed you're being overtaken by China, Japan and a few other countries.

"We led the way for freedom in the world starting with our revolution"

The British Empire still led the world till the 1st World War, during that time your country was rather insignificant.

Side: No
Phreekshow(246) Disputed
3 points

Hmmm! LOL So am insignificant country. kicked the ass of the great British Empire not once but as I recall, TWICE! WOW! now that you mention it. Britain should be even more embarrassed since we were so insiginificant!

Side: yes
Uspwns101(444) Disputed
3 points

Leading the world and leading the way for freedom are two different things.

Side: yes
Uspwns101(444) Disputed
2 points

The USA has never been insignificant, furthermore neither of those empires achievements were as "astronomical" (Hint Hint) as ours although I will say that the Roman Republic served as a great inspiration for our great nation. Two nations bear/bore the Aquila and two nations became superpowers. Interesting how the legacy of Rome is carried on.

Side: yes
skipper1001(5) Disputed
1 point

How can you say you led the way in freedom when you held on to slavery far longer than most western countries??

Side: No
4 points

The USA is a great country, but we are losing our lustre very quickly...in fact, if you look at the rise and fall of the Roman empire, the english empire and others, we will be the fastest rise and fall of them all...sucks for our kids! Thanks Obama!

Side: yes
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
2 points

Come on Andy, surely you are smart enough not blame one man for the actions of a nation. It took more than one to wreck this nation. Not a single soul is excused from contributing to our demise.

Those that voted are to blame the same as those who didn't.

Those that buy goods made in foreign countries are to blame as well.

Anyone that knows of an injustice and does nothing is blame.

"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." Einstein

Side: No
Uspwns101(444) Disputed
1 point

Actually the Mongolians rose and fell much quicker.

Side: yes
4 points

It's a great place. More people emmigrate to the USA than any other country. Why? Because it gives everyone equal opportunity and rights with which one can do whatever they want with.

Side: yes
4 points

Yes it is compered to other countries. Here in America we have freedoms guaranteed by the constitution, not like in other countries were they are not guaranteed. Also we have the political system that works a lot better then other systems. So yes if you compare it to other countries no one cones close. The only country i can think of that's maybe 40% as good is Switzerland, the government cant take away their rights because everyone has guns there ;).

Side: yes
Micmacmoc(2260) Disputed
1 point

"It is compared to other countries"

I don't think that's a very fair statement. The USA dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan towards the end of World War Two and innocent people are still suffering from the radiation poisoning in that area. How on Earth does that make you awesome? I think that the reason other countries aren't like America is because they are not selfishly stupid. No other countries are worse than doing that!

"We have the political system that works a lot better than other systems"

A lot of countries have realised that democracy was a good idea so that doesn't make America any better "compared to other countries"

The political system is a good idea but America had little to do with the founding of it. No, it was founded long ago in Ancient Greece.

"So yes if you compare it to other countries no one cones close"

You should be banned from this site and imprisoned for the rest of your life! Compared to other countries, what has America actually supplied to the world besides bombs, deaths, stupidity? Have a look at the link below to see what else America brings to the world! I cannot believe you would even say that nobody comes close!

Terrible Place to Learn
Side: No
3 points

Well, it all depends on what we're talking about.

But we have the Navy Seals, Microsoft, and fast food. The fuck do you have?

Side: yes
Axmeister(4317) Disputed
6 points

"The fuck do you have?"

Tea

Side: No
Uspwns101(444) Disputed
2 points

What if I told you that having TEA has nothing to do with being awesome that is merely a preference for one beverage over another, and our list of things seems to be quite larger than your one item...tea.

Side: yes
Micmacmoc(2260) Disputed
1 point

"We have the navy seals"

Nice one. Having a group of people that kill other people, and have the audacity to do it in the name of representing a country is ridiculous. Why would you be proud of that?

"... fast food"

Again, I do not think that you should be proud for causing obesity all across the globe. There is a reason America has the largest rate for obesity and it is nothing to be proud of.

Side: No
3 points

I am a proud patriot. But i do know america is a little fucked up. Take texas for example they kill people like it's the dark ages, that is the only thing that concerns me.

But the rest is all fine.

Side: yes
saprophetic(390) Disputed
1 point

Your country just lost 10000 missiles in Libya, and that's ok to you?

Side: No
2 points

correction:

Libya lost 10,000 of its own (Russian-made) missles during its civil war.

NATO (of which the US is a founding member) is working with Libya's Transitional National Council to secure arms stockpiles.

The US has provided $3 million to help destroy weapons and launched more than 2,000 Tomahawk cruise missiles to support the Libyan uprising.

http://www.navair.navy.mil/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.NAVAIRNewsStory&id;=4715

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/ regions/middle-east/111003/lost-missiles-libya-update

Side: yes

we fight for others and expect nothing in return but friend ship this is an example of a great nation

Side: yes
Micmacmoc(2260) Disputed
1 point

"We fight for others"

You bombed Japan with two nuclear missiles, in a war that wasted 50 million lives, people are still suffering from those consequences today. I don't think, in this example, that you are actually fighting for a good cause, here.

If you fight for others then why did you have the American civil war? That is not just fighting for yourself, that is fighting against yourself.

"Expect nothing in return"

Why would you expect things in return after killing millions of people in wars, ruining the financial stock market with loaning money you didn't have, and wasting even more lives through bad education.

"This is an example of a great nation"

Actually, this is an example of an exceedingly idiot nation. How are any of the things that I have listed above intelligent in any way? Creating things such as fast-food do not make you a great nation - they make you an obese nation.

Side: No

the united states has millions of soldiers to protect their people this is a good example of a great government

Side: yes
casper3912(1581) Disputed
1 point

A standing army is one of the greatest threats to security and freedom. Distrust of standing armies was common amongst many of our forefathers.

Side: No
3 points

I was born in the united kingdom and I love the united states. I have officaly lived here for 8 years. Yes the goverment is corrupt but so is every govermnet. yes, they go into silly wars, but they have the best traing to help there men survive threw it. they are a strong goverment and they are what we need in this world. And Hoorah for the marines dieng for the us. and hooah for the soldiers dieing for the us

Side: yes
3 points

I love my country, America! I have so many civil rights here. I hope that lasts.

Side: Yes

Relatively yes. But in terms of overwhelming awesomeness, no.

Side: yes

In general, America is great because it has accumulated the greatest amount of wealth due to freedom and capitalism. America is on the decline. Until America adopts laissez faire as has Hong Kong, America will continue to decline.

Side: yes
garry77777(1794) Disputed
6 points

" America is great because it has accumulated the greatest amount of wealth due to freedom and capitalism"

This is perfect example of absolute grade A bullshit, this kind of total bullshit shit can be used as a bullshit barameter to benchmark other forms of bullshit, this truly is the plantinum, gold and sivler standard for bullshit all rolled into one.

Side: No
Uspwns101(444) Disputed
1 point

No you my friend are full of crap, however laissez faire didn't work before it won't now, we do need less regulation.

Side: yes
Liber(1730) Disputed
1 point

I cannot help but wonder about the conditions on this site when an individual makes an absolutely needless comment insisting - but not substantiating the claim - that a previous comment is "the plantinum, gold and sivler standard for bullshit all rolled into one."

Side: yes
1 point

I was recently doing some research on Hong Kong and have realized how completely unnecessary government regulation is, I have always believed in small government but my belief in this has grown greatly after looking further in depth to this issue.

Side: yes
Axmeister(4317) Disputed
0 points

"America is great because it has accumulated the greatest amount of wealth due to freedom and capitalism."

And the fact that you didn't get involved in both wars until halfway through, leaving your country one of the only superpowers in the world to survive the world wars unscathed(excluding Pearl Harbour).

"Until America adopts laissez faire as has Hong Kong, America will continue to decline."

According to your own version of history, "Laissez Faire" got you into the Great Depression of the 1920's.

Side: No
2 points

According to your own version of history, "Laissez Faire" got you into the Great Depression of the 1920's.

Who's version of history? Government's. That is laughable. Hoover was one of the most interventionist presidents in the history of the U.S.

Side: yes
Uspwns101(444) Disputed
2 points

I think 1930's would be more accurate and if I recall correctly when the USA crashed the rest of the world went too. Hardly seems insignificant.

Side: yes
ThePyg(6737) Disputed
1 point

1. The World Wars, in general, were unnecessary. While the second one eventually had to be fought, it was only because of the first, which was out of bitterness and bullshit. America got involved in the first when it shouldn't have, and it got involved with the second after they were attacked.

2. The Federal Reserve had much to do with the Great Depression. Not "Laissez Faire" Capitalism. Government involvement, historically speaking, greatly contributes to recessions and depressions.

Side: yes
1 point

According to your own version of history, "Laissez Faire" got you into the Great Depression of the 1920's.

I will agree to a large extent that the great depression could have been averted or reduced with some pretty reasonable regulations. Stubborn adherence to "no government interference" ideology, I believe, caused some undue harm.

Side: No
2 points

the usa is great for:

people can elect their president, unlike miserable countries like china/ north korea

it respects universal values like liberty democracy and human rights

and its rich, despite the financial tsunami lol, still richer than many other countries

and its tech level is high, the usa is the birthplace of great things like google n facebook

Side: yes
Suiauthon(14) Disputed
2 points

"people can elect their president, unlike miserable countries like china/ north korea"

You are implying that China/Korea are miserable countries. You are a misinformed loon who needs to bash himself in the face a couple o' times before going back to watching Fox News

"and its rich, despite the financial tsunami lol, still richer than many other countries"

You are a sac of shit. Are you making light of the horrible event that happened in Japan? If you are I hope, for your sake, that you don't make a comment like that in front of me in real life. Behind you computerbox you feel safe, but enter the real world and you'll find that reality a bitch. I'm not that big and scary, but I'm a Weeaboo. So fuck with Japan and your fucking with me.

Side: No
Uspwns101(444) Disputed
5 points

China is not quite "Miserable" North Korea however is. One of the crappiest nations in the world. Its brother South Korea who by the way would not exist without the USA...(okay Britain helped which further supports my idea that a Britain USA alliance is unstoppable) is prosperous wealthy and free. The legacy of America evidenced for all to see.

Side: yes

I think some people are conflating awesome with perfect. The US is certainly far from perfect, but the original idea and implementation of our country based on the consent of the governed, it's ability to reform over time and expand freedoms for minorities, educate nearly 100% of its people, provide a basic saftey net for the poor and disabled, aid other countries, our justice system - none of which are perfect, but many became models that the rest of the world adopted/adapted.

I don't think our awesomeness should be largely based on our wealth, but I do think it is worth mentioning the opportunity for people to become wealthy, protections for patents, one of the most stable economies of the world, national recognition of (most) contracts.

America is a country that inspires awe and intices immigrants from all over the world. We should always remember that we are not perfect, that humility is a virture, that someone who says America can be improved is not unpatriotic, etc., but I'm often awed by the mental might and military dedication that created and sustains America.

So my vote is awesome.

Side: yes
2 points

defffffffffffffffffiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnniiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttlllllllllllllyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!11

Side: yes
2 points

I'm awed by it alright.

Side: yes
1 point

Yup! You don't make millions jealous by being mediocre.

Side: yes

The United States is still the greatest country in the world.

Side: Yes
3 points

I would never use awesome to describe the USA, mediocre best describes it. Plenty of room for more for improvement.

Side: No
Uspwns101(444) Disputed
1 point

There is room for improvement in every individual, in every city, and in every country, the peace and prosperity produced by the USA has scarce been matched from the Roman Republic and on.

Side: yes
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
5 points

Peace? You can think of no conflicts. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, to name a few, hardly peace.

Awesome is something to strive for, not boost about. To be awesome is to be silent, not obnoxious. One can never be awesome and bragg about being so.

Side: No
2 points

In what terms? A place that is responsible for a lot of shit could possibly never be AWESOME!

Side: No

Here are only a small number of reason why America is not awesome...in fact, quite the opposite:

Current American debt crisis.

Hypocritical (For example; Placing nukes in a location that is directly aimed at Russia during the cold war, and then complaining and getting all upset when Russia does the same thing).

George W. Bush.

Funding the Afghanistan people with weapons then treat them like garbage and complain when they start launching terrorist attacks.

This isn't to say any other country is without it's flaws, I don't think that ANY country is awesome - but of the Western country's America is definitely the least awesome.

Side: No
Uspwns101(444) Disputed
1 point

Hypocritical? That my friend is simply smart. It is things like that which allow a nation to become a superpower, by outcompeting and outmatching their enemies. If that entails pointing a missile at them and stopping them from doing the same then i say great policy.

Side: yes
garry77777(1794) Disputed
3 points

"Hypocritical? That my friend is simply smart"

No my friend its not, do you have any idea how wev came to a full scake nuclear war?

And the probability of a repeat is increasing day by day with the US's planned "defense shield" (notice the invertged commas) in Russia backyard.

The US is nation founded on hypocrisy, they say they stand for freedom and domocracy but their actions spread the opposite.

"by outcompeting and outmatching their enemies."

You didn't outcompete or outmatch the USSR, they were superior to you in many ways but their society imploded from the inside.

"If that entails pointing a missile at them and stopping them from doing the same then i say great policy"

You totally, lets piont missiles and people and see how they like it, no bad can come of that, we've got the biggeset dicks in the world, woooooooooooh!!!!!!!!!!USA USA USA USA USA USA!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: No
1 point

You are actually kidding, right? Right?

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Side: No
1 point

"Hypocritical"

America is full of hypocrisy, another fine example is the fact that they complained about Stalin not allowing free elections, and then fixing and preventing elections in Vietnam.

Side: No
2 points

A great country is measured by how rich the poor are, not by how rich the rich are.

Is the USA awesome? Far from it.

Side: No
2 points

NO! american politick is to right-handed

in america we have death pentally and thats bad.

in america we dont have aproved gay marriage and that also bad.

in america is leagel to have a gun and thats ridicolous.

in america the taxes is too low and if the taxes is too low how will we make the hospitales and schools better.

if we would make the taxes higher we cold go to hospitals and schools FREE.

. I know this and im just 11 years old

Side: No
1 point

Awsome? what on Earth makes them awsome?

Side: No
Uspwns101(444) Disputed
1 point

Not awesome? What makes us not awesome?

The minimum length for an argument is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

Side: yes
Axmeister(4317) Disputed
1 point

"Not awesome? What makes us not awesome?"

By stating that only the USA is awesome you're suggesting that they're superior to other countries.

Which they definitely are not.

Side: No
1 point

Awesome? No. It has just as many problems as any other country would.

Side: No
1 point

No. Just no. I find it confusing that someone would think America is an awesome place. You've confused me, good work. The most amazing thing is that it's a country that manages to keep a portion of the population born with silver spoons, and the rest born to serve them. Most countries are uniformly poor or wealthy. Congrats, America.

Side: No
1 point

I consider the USA to be liveable, at best. Certainly not great, but not exactly horrible.

If the US were awesome, people like me would not suffer as much.

Side: No
1 point

Or what.... .

Side: No
1 point

Hmmm well considering the terrible, non compassionate believes America has, no. The Government would kill fifty innocent people if it meant a one percent increase on taxes. I betcha :D

Side: No

Is the United States of America awesome? Taking into account recent happenings, no. Simple as that.

Side: No
1 point

Not anymore. The idea of the usa is awesome in that the "american dream" was once attainable. this is no longer the case. with the government being bought and paid for by corporate vultures, forcing us to further the american empire by invading other countries and keeping us in conflict after conflict, by not following other progressive nations not only in healthcare reform but also failing to follow ecological advances and nuclear disarmament, and with the u.s. claiming exemption from the rest of the world when it comes to being held accountable for crimes worldwide, ...all of this and more leads me to say that the u.s. is a capitalist sinkhole that will continue to use and abuse any person or resource it wants until at last there is nothing left.

Side: No

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They attack countries for no reason

Side: No
1 point

its a steaming pile of horse shit on another note; Grab some spikey poles arrange them in a specific order and set who ever reads this on them, after being paralyzed. Otherwise, the spikes would just be a big fat waste of time. After making sure the.. ahem… you are firmly stuck onto the spikes (just enough to make it uncomfortable) it’s time for the magical art of… wait for it… simple machines! A pulley system would work. Tie any heavy object to the end of the rope, hang it over a rail, drop it and SQUISH goes YOUR head.

Side: No

We're not as amazing as we think we are......I'm not saying this country and it's accomplishments aren't amazing, but they way it's run and the country we are BECOMING suck, mainly in reference to our military. Sure, we have the greatest one in the world, but what gives us the right to shove it down the throat of every other country in the world? What are we gonna do in the situation of another world war...how are we gonna defend ourselves against the ENTIRE world, because in all truth we have no real allies. We've pissed enough people off by getting involved with situations that had nothing to do with us, that NO ONE would complain if we were gone. We're power hungry, we're racist has hell, how are we awesome?

Side: No
1 point

I will whole heartledly say that the US is a great place on the world to live. People absolutely enjoy more freedoms and privilege compared to many other nations. That being said I would never say the US was awesome. The US invades many other countries saying that we are "helping" when really they don't want us there. This costs us so much money we have a huge deficit. Or nation is politically divided and everything happens so slowly. We have some of the worst pollution rates of the world and were more interested in making money than stopping that. Our education system compared to other countries is way behind. We don't really contribute much to the rest of the world, and in the process were hurting ourselves and the planet.

Side: No
1 point

NO. OF COURSE NOT. It's the capitalist of capitalists. The obesity rate of the country is the highest out of every country in the world. Not to mention the ignorance level there is enough to make my brain melt. They think we Canadians live in igloos after all.

Side: No
1 point

No, mainly because I am Canadian, and we have more freedoms and a better government, plus we are polite to one another, the opposite of the United States.

Side: No
1 point

Really, no.

Now Iceland, that's an awesome country.

Side: No
1 point

USA with all my respect to Americans has not history , Freemasons who built this country by bogus and fraudulent monetary system . The American government is monstrous they destroyed many countries and killed many civilians during wars .

Side: No
1 point

Millions in poverty, and a 30 trillion pound debt isn't something I would call awsome.

Side: No
1 point

america is cool cause of the nba, big trucks n burgers. it cud become better by blowing up north korea

Side: No

While the ideals that the USA was formed on were certainly noble, even awesome in ways, and the ideas behind the formation of our early government were as well...

In it's current form, the USA is a joke. While it's not quite as bad as the picture the media likes to paint, it's still in a pretty bad way. Our government has become bloated beyond functionality; it's no longer a question of whether the right hand knows what the left hand is doing- the left index finger has no clue what the left thumb is doing would be a more accurate description.

And the problem is, with the government being the size it is now, is that (and i don't mean to anthropomorphize an organization) it has essentially developed a 'will' of its own. Not like a hive mind, or someone pulling the reins, but a general trend. We've seen it repeatedly- it doesn't matter who we elect president, who we elect to congress, etc; we get the same thing, over and over. Voting out an incumbent in favor of someone new is essentially adding a few points of dissent to the governments collective will, while any new candidate is going to assent to other aspects of it.

By the work of our ancestors in the past few generations- and yes, our own work even in the current generation- we've turned a representative democracy into a monster. The collective will, the inertia of the direction our government is going is such that affecting any kind of major, positive change would be nearly impossible even were we overall an enlightened people- which we aren't.

The system of checks and balances has failed us. Were it not such a logistical nightmare due to my family, I would already have left the US. I'm still trying to work towards that despite the problems involved. Now, I don't have a problem with the American people (or at least not one that I don't have with people in general). I don't believe, from my travels, that the average American is less intelligent than the average individual in any other nation I've seen (which, admittedly, is limited to Canada, Mexico, Britain and France), but rather our least intelligent individuals are far louder and visible than their compatriots in other nations. No, the issue is one of lack of forethought as well as lack of hindsight. My old ancestors, my still living ancestors, and myself have all contributed in some way to this mess. The issue is the government, and WE created this monster.

I can't even ask 'where did we go wrong?' because the information is all there. I would once ask 'how can we fix this?' when I was younger. But the time for that is past- I'm a father, and I have my family to think of. Stirring the pot, trying to affect change, while having a potential payoff for my family is far too risky. The only solution I can see for my loved ones is to scrape the funds together necessary, pull up roots, and start a new life elsewhere.

Side: No
0 points

The US has killed people. Then again, all countries have killed people, but that doesn't excuse anything.

Side: No
2 points

Idiots like you kill logical thought. You are a murderer! you are not awesome!

Side: yes
chatturgha(1630) Disputed
3 points

To be honest, I think you don't really understand my logic is all.

My logic on this issue is thus: Murder = Bad. Nurture = Good.

So, as long as any nation murders people, it will not be awesome. Maybe some of the people and culture will be awesome, but not the nation. A nation is a government, not a culture, nor a certain number of people. A nation can be defined by the culture within it, but it is not a nation without a government.

People are awesome. Not their nations. The United States is not the exception to this rule just because it's powerful.

Side: No
Uspwns101(444) Disputed
1 point

I fail to see how that makes us not awesome, awesomeness is relative to other nations, for that reason you saying that others have killed along with us completely voids your argument.

Side: yes
chatturgha(1630) Disputed
2 points

Unless my point is that no nation is awesome. Ever thought of that?

Side: No
0 points

I wouldn't say we're awesome. We give the appearance of being this amazing country and we are better than some others but we have a lot of problems. Our economy for one or the fact that we seem to always want to place ourselves in the center of all problems/war. Definitely not "awesome", but still it's not completely terrible.

Side: No
0 points

The usa is a good country but not the best, I live in it, and we have rights but in a lot of cases they can be used against us. Our government can do what ever thay want to us and with us without telling others, wich they have. Namely Bill Clinton... I'm pretty sure you can get info on this at some other sites and so on. I still love my country but it could use some improvment

1. Get rid of OBAMA!!!

2. Get a republican in office to bring our country to it's best, not just any republican either, one like Ronald Regan.

3. Illgalize abortion

Side: No