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Vinny Mc is a dirty racist Nope cos the rock is black
Debate Score:30
Arguments:28
Total Votes:30
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 Nope cos the rock is black (12)

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Is WWE Racist?

60 years of wrestling. Not one black champ. Ok so its fake, but that is really, really fake. Look at other sports. Look at UFC about to pitch its tent on two incredible wrestlers in Cormier and Jones...

In UFC Cormier manhandles a guy like Dan Henderson, in WWE hed probably lose.

  • The PW Torch has gone on record stating talks with a WWE employee alleging a racist culture behind the scenes in WWE that apparently includes Vince McMahon giving his private jet a racially offensive nickname. In addition, Vince apparently tries to teach black wrestlers how to be "more black", whatever the hell that means. The creative team is made up almost entirely of white men with the exception of Dave Kapoor, who you may know as Ranjin Singh. It's alleged his nickname among some agents within the company is "Taliban".

http://www.cagesideseats.com/2014/8/15/6004801/rumor-roundup-aug-15-2014-alleged-wwe-racism-sting-raw-smackdown-supershow-tapings

 

What we have here amounts to an alternative reality, in which black people are told to act "more black" except unlike their real life counter parts, they are prevented from ever winning the gold. 

 

Racist storytelling version of america. 

Vinny Mc is a dirty racist

Side Score: 13
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Nope cos the rock is black

Side Score: 17
1 point

Yes, WWE is a racist universe of bullshit.

Vinny is a racialist.

Side: Vinny Mc is a dirty racist
3 points

They have had black champions. One was Booker T, when he was wrestling.

Side: Nope cos the rock is black
johnny5(135) Disputed
1 point

WWE World Heavyweight Championship. - main belt... no they havent

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Srom(12207) Disputed
2 points

Yes they have. Booker T won it.

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3 points

I don't know a lot about wrestling but I think it's gonna be hard to pin a racism tag on WWE when you look at the history of the champs you've had an Iranian, South Americans and if the Rock doesn't count as a black champ because he's half Samoa, then America still hasn't had a black president because Obama's mother wasn't black!!

I think because WWE is entertainment they want to give their audience what they want and the majority of wrestling fans do seem to be white teenage boys so as an entertainment company they supply the kind of champs white teenage boys want to see. I'm sure if their demographic suddenly changed and the majority of their fans were teenage black boys you'd get a black champ because I think the only colour the guys that run WWE really care about is green.

Side: Nope cos the rock is black
johnny5(135) Disputed
1 point

The rock and obama. Come on. This is a bs line of rhetoric. The rock is about as black as elvis. Obama is mixed race, but he is obviously a different visual tone than the rock. Why has WWE never had one champ in all its history that is black? A lot of wrestling fans are black and vince sure seems to have some questionable practices.

Saying their audience is white, so therefore the champ must be white is a cop out. Youve effectively created a whites only division at the peak of wrestling and the storytelling is actually more of a color bar than fair competition.

In 60 years, not one black champ. Pathetic.

Side: Vinny Mc is a dirty racist
1 point

The Rock is part black. .

Side: Nope cos the rock is black
TheAshman(2299) Disputed
1 point

So your saying the Rock wasn't Black enough and looks too white to count as a black man even though he's mixed race, his father was black and his mother was Samoan but Obama who is also mixed race, Black father & white mother looks black enough to count as a black man, now who's being racist?

Side: Nope cos the rock is black
1 point

This isn't evidence that WWE itself is racist, perhaps it is evidence that it omits from hiring blacks due to viewers being racist, or that some wrestlers are racist, but it's not enough evidence to conclude that WWE is an innately racist group.

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johnny5(135) Disputed
1 point

Well it is evidence. I posted evidence. .....................................

Side: Vinny Mc is a dirty racist
Stickers(1037) Clarified
1 point

The article? It claims that it is a rumor. Even if the rumor was verified, that does not mean that we can go ahead and slap a big "racist" label on the whole of WWE.

Side: Vinny Mc is a dirty racist

I see no reason to play the race card. I am a raging liberal, but I gotta say that this race stuff is making us look bad.

Side: Nope cos the rock is black
johnny5(135) Disputed
1 point

Its not a race card, generically, every time someone mentions racism. Thats a deliberate ignorance, rather in keeping with the racist mindset, you literally ignore evidence, and talk about race cards.

Anytime you hear the word race, just say the word race card... denial of racism is the new racism...

Side: Vinny Mc is a dirty racist
1 point

Yes it is race card. Every time statists run out of logic, they use the race card. I am not a racist because I believe that we are all one human race.

Side: Nope cos the rock is black
Stickers(1037) Clarified
1 point

Dana, you've claimed to be pretty much everything under the sun .

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1 point

I have been a liberal since 2012. .

Side: Vinny Mc is a dirty racist

In my opinion, WWE is not racist. I see the delight on the faces of all fans who attend wrestling.

Side: Nope cos the rock is black