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Debate Score:6
Total Votes:6
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Is a candidate's military record relevant anymore?

In the United States, there has been 12 presidents without military experience.

John Adams, John Quinncy Adams, Grover Cleveland, Martin Van Buren, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Herbert Hoover, Calvin Coolidge, Warren Harding, Woodrow Wilson, William Taft, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.*

Is miliary experience important considering the two of last three have none with Bush only serving as stateside during Vietnam in the National Guard?

Could the lack of military experience be the lack of any major war?

NOTE: JFK, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Regan and George H W Bush all served in World War II in some form.


Side Score: 3


Side Score: 3
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If you are going to send people over to some forsaken wasteland to fight a war then you ought to know what it is like to be over there.

Side: yes

No doubt, James Buchanan was the only president who served in the armed services as a non officer position. He was a private in the Pennsylvanian State Militia. Unfortunately, he was one of the worst presidents in the history of the United States.

Side: yes
1 point

Given that the closest an average american soldier comes to combat is aiming remote missiles at civilians/terrorists with nintendo controllers - I dont think that counts for much heroism.

So I dont think it counts much

Side: No
1 point

In all seriousness though I would think it would be better if he was a tactician/strategist rather than a grunt.

Seeing how some of the best politicians were not in the military I don't see how this matters. (See FDR, I think you did)

Side: No
1 point

Who said s/he must be a grunt? Who were the best politicians not in the military? FDR, the best. Please. What about Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, or Abraham Lincoln.

Side: yes
JayAr(182) Disputed
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I never said FDR was the best, merely a good one. I didn't say that they must be a grunt, just odds are if randomly selected a job in the military...

OK what about Neville Chamberlain (do your own research, the only thing he is remembered for was appeasing Hitler, however one must remember the historians fallacy. He did other things)

Or what of, alright you only got me because the ones who did wars are the most remembered throughout history. Also thanks for using s/he! YOU WIN!!!

Let me think on what other leaders there were.

1.) Bismark (Otto Van)

2.)Cyrus (don't know your stance, was never a soldier. A leader of them though)

3.) I can't believe that I didn't say Gandhi!

4.)Lenin (he was good, trust me, Stalin was the one who was more along the lines of military)

5.) Finally Ashoka (of India)

I lost this one... good luck

Side: No