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A choice born with it.
Debate Score:102
Arguments:68
Total Votes:121
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Is being homosexual a choice or something you are born with?

A choice

Side Score: 43
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born with it.

Side Score: 59
3 points

At birth, humans have no sexual preference, considering they have not been exposed to anything sexual at such a young age. Ultimately, the environment the person was raised in is the largest factor to determine what their sexual preference is (homosexuality or heterosexuality).

Side: A choice
Akulakhan(2985) Disputed
3 points

Right, therefore I am straight not because I find women attractive, but rather because I was raised to find women attractive? Wait, no I wasn't. In fact, homosexuals come from any population or socioeconomy. What of the asexual and pansexual? I suppose they were raised under rocks.

Side: born with it.
Cynical(1948) Disputed
2 points

Right, therefore I am straight not because I find women attractive, but rather because I was raised to find women attractive?

Not exactly what I meant. Environment in that context could mean many things. For example, the majority of Christans believe that homosexuality is inherently wrong, which would make a Christan have a larger chance to be heterosexual rather than homosexual.

In fact, homosexuals come from any population or socioeconomy.

I am entirely aware of that; my purpose of 'environment' was not to differentiate from varying populations, but from varying lifestyles, I suppose.

What of the asexual and pansexual? I suppose they were raised under rocks.

I'm aware that there are far more sexual preferences besides homosexuality and heterosexuality, but I only used those two as those are currently the majorities, and for simplicity.

Side: A choice
1 point

For me I think it is a choice for people to come up with if they want to be a homosexual. You aren't born with it because you are young and you can't just say out of the blue I was a homosexual it has to be later down in life when you make that decision. Its a choice that is up for the person to decide.

Side: A choice
TheAshman(2299) Disputed
2 points

I disagree most Gay people I have met discovered they were attracted to people of the same sex at Puberty, the same time as most straight people discover they are attracted to people of the opposite sex. I have never met anyone who said I have made the conscious decision to be Straight or Gay it's just the way they are

Side: born with it.
Srom(12207) Disputed
2 points

And that was the person's choice to be attracted to the same gender at puberty.

Side: A choice
2 points

You aren't born with it because you are young and you can't just say out of the blue I was a homosexual it has to be later down in life when you make that decision.

How does this prove that homosexuality is not natural? And no. Homosexuals did not decide to become homosexual. They merely decided to declare or come out as homosexuals.

Side: born with it.
Srom(12207) Disputed
2 points

Homosexuals did not decide to become homosexual. They merely decided to declare or come out as homosexuals.

That is the exactly the same. If you declare or come out as a homosexual then you made that choice to declare or come out as a homosexual.

Side: A choice
1 point

Its a choice Im not straight bcuz i was born this way Im straight bcuz tht was my choice I mentally prefer guys

Side: A choice
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
3 points

If it's a choice for you than you are not straight, you are bi-sexual. That you are supressing homosexual desires does not make you straight.

Side: born with it.
1 point

Its not really a choice but I put it here because they are not born. I know about three people who are gay and they were pretty much straight until around 13-16.

Really its more like born vs. made.

Side: A choice
2 points

Homosexuals no more choose which sex they are attracted to than heterosexuals choose which sex they are attracted to.

Which is why most homophobes are actually bi leaning toward gay I believe. For them it feels like a choice because they can swing both ways. If they were truly as heterosexual as they claim they'd:

1. Not give a shit, less competition and nothing to do with them.

2. Understand one cannot flip a switch and say "hey, I like girls today" then "hey, now I like boys." ... unless of course you are bi-sexual.

Someone somewhere may argue that "But the act of homosexual sex is a choice so it's a choice" if CD history is any indicator.

That is incorrect though. Homosexuality is the attraction, whether its acted upon or not.

Side: born with it.
1 point

I sort of agree with this. I can't imagine why anyone would think it's a choice or not. I have a completely straight friend, and he has no problem with homosexuality, but another friend is a hardcore Christian, and says things like "faggot" or "that's so gay" all the time, and then goes around telling people it's wrong to be gay and that it's purely a choice, as if in his mind, he could go either way, but has chosen straightness.

Side: born with it.
2 points

I dont get the Homosexuality is a choice thing, it's not like I hit a certain age looked at Guys looked at Girls and thought decisions, decisions I pick Girls it just happened and i'm pretty sure it's the same for Gay people. I think some people are just scared to admit that Gay people are just people like everyone else

Side: born with it.

I don't know why it has to be one or the other. There are gays who partake in homosexual activities because they choose to, and there are gays who are drawn to the same sex the same way heterosexuals are drawn to the opposite sex. I've met both in my life.

Side: born with it.
riahlize(1573) Clarified
1 point

There is a difference between activity and attraction.

Side: A choice
2 points

Studies show that there is a 77% chance that if an identical twin is homosexual, their counterpart twin will also be homosexual.

Side: born with it.

That's an interesting statistic, have you a source for that info, I'd like to read it?

Side: born with it.
mrsci999(41) Clarified
1 point

How do you know their environment didn't have anything to do with it?

Side: A choice
1 point

There is no scientific proof to support either view and I think it's interesting that all this research goes into finding out why people are Gay and not into why people are straight but in the end who care's Gay people are here and their not going anywhere so the only thing the human race can and should do is live and let live.

Side: born with it.

If you like to sleep with men and you have a penis..., then it's something you were born with ;)

Side: born with it.
1 point

not nameing any names my closes freind as well as family are gay i asked them at first they said no amount of men or women could ever make him or her happy so the decide it is a choice but some are also gay to began with nothing wrong with that

Side: born with it.
ricedaragh(2494) Disputed
1 point

That's just a miserable fucker, not a homosexual .

Side: A choice
1 point

I don't know what side to pick, because it can be both.

I can chose right now, that I want to be homosexual, even tho I'm not.

If I do so, it is a choice.

But if I someday found out, that I like women, then it wasn't something I chose.

Some like strawberries, some like bananas, some like both - just like some like women and some like men - and some even like them both.

Side: born with it.
ricedaragh(2494) Disputed
1 point

I can chose right now, that I want to be homosexual, even tho I'm not.

No, you can choose to behave in a homosexual manner, but would not be a homosexual as you wouldn't be sexually attracted to your own gender.

I would assume that you are straight, can you even imagine having sexual contact with your own gender? I'd hazard a guess that the idea would repulse you.

But if I someday found out, that I like women, then it wasn't something I chose.

Sexuality does not flip flop like that, especially in men, women are a different case.

Side: A choice
1 point

Sexuality does not flip flop like that, especially in men, women are a different case.

Oh, don't get me wrong I know that.

But some people don't find out that they're gay before they're .. like 30 or something.

Side: A choice
1 point

If you ever have a weird sexual twitch at something wildly inappropriate, or if something you don't quite understand turns you on, you can probably see why homosexuals are homosexuals.

I'm not so sure that it's something you're -born- with so much as something that comes naturally, but I'm not an expert. Things change, sexuality develops. You find new things to want and lust after even if you're not aware of it. That's just how it works.

Side: born with it.

A person is born Gay just as a Straight person is born heterosexual.

Side: born with it.
1 point

I don't really support either side, so I'll pick this one, but will explain why I don't support either side.

There is definitely an idea that you are hardwired with your sexual orientation. I don't know if this means you're born with it or it just happens as you age. There is also the idea that sexual preference is fluid and can change over time.

For instance, I thought I was gay for several years but ended up in a relationship with someone of the opposite sex. I still find the same sex attractive, but I've found myself to have a little more attraction to the opposite sex than I used to.

Before I started thinking about my sexual orientation (from the age of about twelve onwards), I assumed I was straight but that I was forcing myself to be interested in having a relationship when I wasn't really.

As some people express their sexuality in terms of a preference rather than a very set "I only like x", I think it's a mental thing but not something we can control. I prefer dark hair to fair hair, but I'm not convinced I was born with that preference.

So it's not a conscious choice.

I think there's also some physical biological influence, e.g. the way the brain works, but it's not necessarily anything to do with genetics. So you may or may not be born with it.

Like most things, there are probably a mixture of factors.

Whatever the reason for same-sex attraction, people should still be allowed to live their lives as they please and their attractions are perfectly valid and OK.

Side: born with it.