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Debate Score:55
Arguments:45
Total Votes:64
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Is being transgender okay? Should we support them and the transgender movement?

We should not

Side Score: 25
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We should

Side Score: 30

I don't care what they do, I'm just not going to advocate for them.

Side: We should not
1 point

Is being transgender okay? Should we support them and the transgender movement?

No. Your sexuality shouldn't have a movement. Why would you share your sexuality with the public unless you are some kind of a sick, demented lunatic.

Side: We should not
Scrotumlord(50) Disputed
2 points

No. Your sexuality shouldn't have a movement.

It should when you are being oppressed for it dingus. You are spewing the rectally odious fallacy that the sick ones are the ones who want to be free to be what they are and accepted in society, not the ones who are concerned about what others are for no reason that they are different and want to emulsify their butt hole tissue in a blender because of it so that no penis can go into them.

Side: We should
0 points

It goes against Gods law and that's all the reason I need to be against it. I still love the people and will go to them with the truth but I will not support their decisions to be disobedient to God

Side: We should not
Scrotumlord(50) Disputed
2 points

It goes against Gods law and that's all the reason I need to be against it.

God doesn't exist you little stupid ass bitch.

Side: We should
Lilymarie(43) Disputed
1 point

How do you know that Fod doesnt exist? Can you give me the proof?

Side: We should not
AThAPhys(83) Disputed
1 point

Why should a 2,000 year old book with no evidence to back it up be a consideration in decisions about transgenderism?

Side: We should
Lilymarie(43) Disputed
1 point

What so you mean no evidence?. Where do you think the world came from. And everything that is happening in the world today is talked about in the bible.

Side: We should not
2 points

If your scared of trans people, don't be. What worries you may have about trans

people should be the beginning of the conversation not, the end. But as for

transgender people getting their own movement, of course they should. As trans

people get discriminated against a lot, trans people need a movement to protect

them. If people are being discriminated against at all they need a movement to

defend them.

Side: We should
Hamburger(37) Disputed
1 point

Conservatives get censored on social media, so they need a movement to defend them.

Side: We should not
2 points

Conservatives get censored on social media

No, that's fascists. You keep calling fascists Conservatives because you don't like the word fascist. Stop doing it please.

Side: We should
2 points

Hamburger,

Conservatives aren't necessarily censored, while they are definitely censored

sometimes, you may be confusing censorship with not being the majority of

mainstream news outlets. Think NY times or The Guardian.

Side: We should
2 points

Also being trans is gender identity not, sexuality. Being gay or lesbian or bisexual or pansexual are sexualities.

Side: We should
1 point

Here's my history on this issue. When I was a kid and then a young man I was a total homophobic. I was so straight that I had no conception of what gay was. I had an older brother who was gay and I never realized it until I literally saw him kissing another man. I was horrified. I despised anything gay. I had zero gaydar. No mater how flamboyant I never could tell that I was interacting with a gay person. As time went by I realized that there were a few other gay people in the world aside from my brother. Just a few. Over the years I met more gay people and gradually realized I liked them. I got along with them fine. I even had one tell me he had a crush on me and I didn't freak out. I guess I'd evolved a little. I take no credit for being straight, that was just luck of the draw. I'm very glad that I'm straight, that's one thing about my life that's easy.

I've joked in the past that being straight is a negative because instead of getting married and having kids, if I'd been gay I'd have never done either and I would have been retired long ago so the joke was that being gay would have been easier. But I never seriously believed that. Gay and Trans people have a tough time just being who they are, just living their lives. The homophobes see to that.

I voted for gay marriage here in Washington State and it passed and you know what, the sky didn't fall in! (My joke then was that they deserved to be just as miserable as the rest of us.) Anyway, at some point I sort of had an awakening. I realized that if every other man on the planet were gay, I'd be the king of pussy! Yippee! Yes that's a bit of a ridiculous notion but the point is, I couldn't care less about who's gay or trans or any of it. What the hell is that to me? It takes nothing away from me at all. Gay and trans people have enough on their plate to have to deal with scorn and ridicule and hatred.

They won't get any of that from me.

I'll tell you one thing though. I do have gaydar now. I have really good gaydar. My gaydar alarm goes crazy every time somebody starts in bashing gay or trans people. I'm convinced that most of those people doing the bashing have secrets.

Closeted homosexual secrets.

Side: We should
1 point

I'm not sure that homosexuality is abnormal because homosexuality exists in animals. No expert here but I don't think it's abnormal. Maybe it's a sliding scale from 100% straight to 0 percent straight and every spot on that scale is normal. Not average, but normal. I don't know, this stuff is complicated.

Side: We should
1 point

The extraordinary degree of personal insecurity a person must have to give one shit about how someone else identifies is thoroughly beyond me. This would not be an issue if these anti-trans weirdos were not obsessed with controlling other people; I wish these cissies would get over themselves already.

Side: We should
0 points

My argument is that once a similar thing was going on with homosexuality. Someone could ask "Is being homosexual okay? Should we support them and the homosexuality movement?" and not be shunned by society. At some point, it will take a while, mind you, transgenderism will become normalized, and we will no longer have to discuss this question.

I would let people be transgender if they want, but don't expect people to care. What really annoys me is when it comes up in conversation. Be transgender if you want, but don't make any outrageous requests, like when a mother that has changed gender wants to be labelled as 'father' on the birth certificate.

Side: We should
BurritoLunch(5161) Clarified
1 point

My argument is that once a similar thing was going on with homosexuality. Someone could ask "Is being homosexual okay? Should we support them and the homosexuality movement?" and not be shunned by society. At some point, it will take a while, mind you, transgenderism will become normalized, and we will no longer have to discuss this question.

I think the problem for a lot of people is where this acceptance thing is leading. While I believe in the rights of gay and transgender people to express themselves, sooner or later someone is going to point out the hypocrisy of supporting gays while we simultaneously try to murder paedophiles. In both cases we are talking about an abnormal attraction which is taking place somewhere in the brain.

Side: We should not
2 points

Your point is a good once, but the difference is that gayness harms no one, while paedophilia harms children as they are not sexually mature.

Side: We should
Hamburger(37) Disputed
1 point

In both cases we are talking about an abnormal attraction which is taking place somewhere in the brain.

You have this abnormal attraction to Dermot, Miocene, and Highfalutin.

Side: We should not