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 Is forcing you to pay for abortions different from forcing you to pay to kill Baby Seals? (24)

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Is forcing you to pay for abortions different from forcing you to pay to kill Baby Seals?

Is it hypocritical for those who think it is ok to force people to pay for Abortins, while at the same time they would be outraged if a Republican made a law forcing all tax payers to pay to kill Baby Seals.

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If we are paying for this through taxation I would see a vote put in place that would require more than 50% of the citizens to agree to the taxes that will help pay for abortions. Same applies to baby seals. Many people probably wouldn't mind the tax as long as isn't a wallet buster. I'm sure we have some people who don't want to help pay for education, scientific advances, roads, healthcare, or military, but had to do so because it was voted on. Also what would we be killing baby seals for? Paying for an abortion can have many logical arguments in for it's support. Can you provide a reason as to why we would be killing baby seals?

FromWithin(8240) Disputed
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For you to even ask the question why we would kill Baby seals but you have no problem with killing Babies says it all. I'm sure there are groups of people who like eating Baby Seals much like we do with Veal.

I'm showing the hypocrisy of Democrats who are arrogant enough to force people with humanity to pay for ending the life of a Baby but would be outraged if Politicians forced them to pay to kill Baby Seals. Just the thought of forcing someone to pay to end the life of a human being is diabolical.You actually have the nerve to compare ending the life of an innocent human being to roads & education? Is this what America is becoming? I guess that just proves the point, when you separate God from a nation, you separate humanity.

Paradox44(736) Disputed
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Definition of baby: a very young child, especially one newly or recently born.

I had no idea that it was legal to take a newborn and kill it.

Anyways, I don't think this is what our taxes go towards. The taxes you are talking about are most likely medical taxes such as healthcare. I would count abortion as something in healthcare.

I'm showing the hypocrisy of Democrats who are arrogant enough to force people with humanity to pay for ending the life of a Baby but would be outraged if Politicians forced them to pay to kill Baby Seals.

Again, are you going to give me a reason why we would be killing baby seals in the first place? Or will you continue to spew useless information that I cannot contest due to it's lack of information?

Just the thought of forcing someone to pay to end the life of a human being is diabolical.

Yes, supporting healthcare is just "diabolical".

You actually have the nerve to compare ending the life of an innocent human being to roads & education?

I don't think that's what my intentions were, but I don't think you even understand my post to begin with.

Is this what America is becoming? I guess that just proves the point, when you separate God from a nation, you separate humanity.

We become more free?

Cartman(18192) Disputed
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For you to even ask the question why we would kill Baby seals but you have no problem with killing Babies says it all. I'm sure there are groups of people who like eating Baby Seals much like we do with Veal.

He actually never said he had anything against clubbing seals. He was trying to figure out how it could be paid by taxes.

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It's not hypocritical at all. The money is going to not necessarily the act of the abortion but more so towards the woman having a safe visit with the abortion doctor. It's to protect her, not kill the child. The law about killing baby seals( why must they be babies might I add, obvious emotional appeal) is not about any person's health, therefore it wouldn't even begin to breach a just zone.

FromWithin(8240) Disputed
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What a load of garbage! Is that what pro choice people tell themselves so they can sleep at night?

DrawFour(2662) Disputed
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I don't know what other pro abortionists know, but what I know is that I'd rather a living breathing female to be legally allowed to remove something from her body in a safe manner, than for her to retort to less safe measures that can have her seriously wounded.

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Yes.  

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Yes. For a start, may species of seal are endangered.

Really, I don't understand. Even if you paid for health insurance, your money could surely still be funding abortions: just under private, not public, guidance. So unless you demand that abortions are not to be covered by health insurance, there's no real difference.

Some governments have done an excellent job of regulating abortions so women can have the growth of a foetus terminated before it can be called sentient. If abortion was illegal, there are many less safe ways a woman could illegally abort her child in times of desperation. As a male, you probably don't understand how frightening the concept of a tiny human growing inside you, unwanted, is. Whether it's rape, an accident or a drunken one-night-stand, I think that to give birth to a child you need to really want it. It's a large commitment, even if someone else will be looking after it.

After this child is born, do you still care about it? (A common argument, I know.) Will you be happy for its mother to be on welfare for a sizeable amount of time as she cares for the child alone, and is then unable to re-enter the job market?

thousandin1(1931) Clarified
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Will you be happy for its mother to be on welfare for a sizeable amount of time as she cares for the child alone, and is then unable to re-enter the job market?

Nah, they want to cut social programs too- they have no problem with baby and mother starving to death, just so long as the life of the fetus remains sacred until it is born.

FromWithin(8240) Disputed
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Like I said, for Liberals the answer to life's problems is to kill the burdensome unborn baby, not address the core reasons why people are on welfare.TYPICAL!

Welfare is a moral issue the majority of the time. Women sleep around with dead beat idiots who would never support the child they conceived. The pregnant mother then runs down to the tax payer to bail them out from their irresponsibility. Many times there is a man working under the table living with the women while she gets welfare. What's the Democrat's answer? Abort the Baby and NEVER address the moral issues of what's creating the problem.

FromWithin(8240) Disputed
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All of your excuses mean absolutely NOTHING! We are talking about a living growing human being & NEVER can a people who call themselves compassionate choose to kill that innocent human life.

Your mentality is why Dictators kill their people. When some segment of population becomes a burden, they ethnic cleanse them.

ADDRESS THE CORE PROBLEMS of why women get pregnant with no loving father to support the family. IT'S CALLED IRRESPONSIBILITY. Address the core problem, don't kill the result.

Cartman(18192) Disputed
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ADDRESS THE CORE PROBLEMS of why women get pregnant with no loving father to support the family. IT'S CALLED IRRESPONSIBILITY. Address the core problem, don't kill the result.

Follow your own advice. Don't address abortions, address getting pregnant.

Elvira(3446) Disputed
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ADDRESS THE CORE PROBLEMS...

That is what everyone is trying to do: governments, civil society, even businesses. However this takes a long time to achieve. We have to understand that the foetus, although human, is not sentient. It's not a person, it's a rapidly growing cluster of stem-cells incapable of feeling or understanding pain. It has the potential to be a person, but that doesn't matter. Every ovum within my body has the potential to be a person, but hopefully none of them will fulfil that potential!

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The benefit to aborting fetuses is much greater than the benefit of killing baby seals.

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The arrogance of Liberal Democrats is astounding. Conservatives would never in a million years make laws forcing you to support controversial issues dealing with life & death.

Cartman(18192) Disputed
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So? You would go to war!

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The Liberal Democrats are very sorry.