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Yes, it is. No, it's not.
Debate Score:70
Arguments:69
Total Votes:76
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Is homosexuality a choice?

Many people believe that homosexuality is a decision, while others think that it's a natural thing. Which side are you on?

Yes, it is.

Side Score: 24
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No, it's not.

Side Score: 46
3 points

Until the supporters of homosexuality can prove through scientific data (which they believe) that homosexuality is not a choice then they have no argument because it is a choice.

Side: Yes, it is.
Cartman(18191) Disputed
1 point

When did you choose heterosexuality?

Side: No, it's not.
DBCooper(2194) Disputed
1 point

Where is the scientific data that homosexuality is not a choice.

Side: Yes, it is.
Kattinja(14) Disputed
1 point

False logic. That's a bit like saying "when did you choose to use your vision?". Humans are biologically designed to be heterosexual just like we are biologically designed to use our eyes.

Side: Yes, it is.
2 points

Regardless if one feels as if their body is against them from birth, you must be born again to enter the kingdom of God.

There are two sets of people in the world. The majority born once for a lifetime, given a breathe, then to dust return. Rise and fall, birth to death.

Many are called, few are chosen, a free gift to all, exchange one dieing breathe a life born in hope, only to rise in one breathe, born in brokenness destined to fall. Hoplessness marked like Cain in exil to forever in brokeness to wander as one lost. His breathe of life heals, a call to finally be whole. His rod and His staff is the Good Shepherd guiding you home.

A new thing He's done, brand new, its good news. He sounds out His trumpet, sounding out to all in Jubilee rejoice if you are one who hears Him call.

Dont delay, dont wait, you may miss out on the deal, He reasons and calls negotiating with all, a win win exchange of one dieing breathe of those who rise once, but then fall.

Cash for clunkers, a fair trade the crown of life He will give you for His crown of thorns, in mocking He wore it, in open shame He professed you in scornful display.

The Father adorned Him in bright priceless jewels, a rainbow of splendor like Josephs multicolored coat.

His body He gave sold for silver not gold, His robe four a lot cast the highest bidder, a mere a roll of the dice.

A fool He became to make foolish men wise. To clothe the naked in white linen and adorn poor men in His royal robe, rewarding the slave, with purple and refined gold. A party to celebrate, a jubilee feast when as a lost son you come home.

From whole He was broken like a grain of wheat , to make broken men whole. Exchanging, our clothes from the ground for clothes of linen pure white, and purple and rewRegardless if one feels as if their body is against them from birth, you must be born again to enter the kingdom of God.

There are two sets of people in the world. The majority born once for a lifetime, given a breathe, then to dust return. Rise and fall, birth to death.

Many are called, few are chosen, a free gift to all, exchange one dieing breathe a life born in hope, only to rise in one breathe, born in brokenness destined to fall. Hoplessness marked like Cain in exil to forever in brokeness to wander as one lost. His breathe of life heals, a call to finally be whole. His rod and His staff is the Good Shepherd guiding you home.

A new thing He's done, brand new, its good news. He sounds out His trumpet, sounding out to all in Jubilee rejoice if you are one who hears Him call.

Dont delay, dont wait, you may miss out on the deal, He reasons and calls negotiating with all, a win win exchange of one dieing breathe of those who rise once, but then fall.

Cash for clunkers, a more than fair trade! The crown of life He gives generously for our crown of thorns. He wore it in open shame, mocked in scornful public display.

An innocent lamb no fault or blemish, adorned by the Father in beauty, priceless bright jewels, the rainbow of splendor of His multicolored coat.

His body saold as a slave for silver, not gold. His coat of honor to the highest bidder, casting a mere roll of the dice.

A fool He became to make foolish men wise. To clothe the poor from soiled decaying rags. To clothe the naked with white linen and adorn slaves in purple, His inheritance rewarding themnot as slaves but as sons.

His work was finished, exchange rags to His riches.Put on His clothes of pure white linen, and robes of purple, crown of refined gold. A high price, top dollar, He paid all that He had to purchase a field. He appraised it's value as more than pearls of great price. He counted the cost, with His eyes wide open, He paid it in full.

The field hardened earth with thistles and thorns, the gardner breaks up the hardened ground sifted and softened our hearts made clean and new, His heart set on treasure, me and you.

Raising us up out of the ground, like trees we grow strong with deepened roots we can stand when all fall.

He unburied a seed our one dieing breath, and offers of trade, one dieing breathe for His breathe of true life.

To heal us forever and make us eternally whole.

Our worth his treasure even if only two cents, top dollar exchange, two copper pennies for pure gold.

Two kingdom's currency to exchange, the world's copper pennies, for Heaven's pure gold.

Turn in to cash in your last dieing breath, even a fool can see, the proposition of a lifetime, a dieing breath for living breathe brokeness healed and foever made whole.

He ransomed us from the never ending pit the fall of decay, terminally broken, the dust of our bodies go back to the ground.

Our spirits wandering lost in hopelessness, the lot of all men, disembodied to wander faceless and marked obscure in the dark, our countenance fallen face down to the ground.

With bright hope He breathed new breathe a deposit of grace, lifting up our countenance in loving kindness, and mercy He brings peace to our souls.

Every hair He has counted, every jot and title of our names in His hand, not one sheep lost.

In His light our faces glow like the Son, in a twiikling we see Him our dust changed and made whole.

Side: Yes, it is.

All sex is a choice whether heterosexual or homosexual.

No one forces us to have sex with people. We have Bisexuals who choose to have sex with both sexes.

Heterosexuals just happen to be having sex that our bodies were designed for.

Tell me who forces you to have sex with someone. I understnd we all have desires to have sex with certain people. That does not make it normal or natural.

Biology tells us what our bodies are designed for. There is no question about that fact.

For all those people who say you are born being attrcted to the same sex, does not make it normal.

We have women who believe they were born with anorexia and constantly feel they are fat even when they are not. We have transgender men with disorders that make them feel they are women. We have pedophiles who believe they were born being attracted to consenting children.

There are many different types of disorders, sexual attractions, etc. etc. and it matters not if they were born that way, or choose to do so.

People like myself have no dislike or hatred towards Gay people. I hate bullies and believe that every person should be respected no matter how they look or how they talk, etc.

What Christians and others want, is for you not to flaunt your orientations in front of our children. I understand how you do not think this is fair, but i woud hope you understand that your sexual orientation is not the normal way our bodies are designed and would respect parents who do not want their children indoctrinated to believe it is normal.

I know we have many more teens experimenting with different sex because our culture sends the messgae that anything goes and everything is normal.

If you can not respect our beliefs, then you will never be treated with the respect every human being deserves. It will always be a divisive issue if people refuse to respect other's beliefs. Parents have a right to raise their chidren in a society that does not flaunt every abnormal sexual orientation as normal, especialy when it goes against our normal biology.

Side: Yes, it is.
SlapShot(2608) Disputed
2 points

thought you were gone?

why the fuck are you still here?

LOL

I knew you didn't have the sack to split.

SS

Side: No, it's not.
FromWithin(8266) Disputed
2 points

I changed my mind after seeing all the hate from those who so fear my words. I know I am doing something good when it bothers the likes of you.

No Big brother control fantics will silence our voices. People like you were ready to elect the most corrupt person in our lifetime.

The midde class working man said NO WAY!

Side: Yes, it is.
Atrag(5553) Disputed
1 point

Biology tells us what our bodies are designed for. There is no question about that fact.

Yes. Your cock goes up when you see what you're attracted to. Are you actually saying that homosexuality doesn't exist? You really do live in cloud cuckoo land don't you? Maybe get off your old arse and go outside and experience the world a little. Form a world view that is actually, you know, about this world rather than what you assume the world is.

Side: No, it's not.
FromWithin(8266) Disputed
2 points

What a shock, pure insults toward my beliefs. This is why I ban you. Thanks for showing everyone how intolerant you are towards people of differing opinions.

Side: Yes, it is.
TheEccentric(3382) Disputed Banned
1 point

Didn't you say you were leaving this sit you silly bitch?

Side: No, it's not.
FromWithin(8266) Clarified
2 points

Read my last debate and you will see I desided to stay and why.

Side: Yes, it is.
Cuaroc(8836) Clarified
2 points

He was but then he got manipulated into staying.

Side: Yes, it is.
Cartman(18191) Disputed
0 points

There are many different types of disorders, sexual attractions, etc. etc. and it matters not if they were born that way, or choose to do so.

There are also disorders, sexual attractions, etc. where it does matter if you were born that way.

People like myself have no dislike or hatred towards Gay people.

Hogwash. You won't even respect them enough to agree that they actually want to get married.

I know we have many more teens experimenting with different sex because our culture sends the messgae that anything goes and everything is normal.

And we are well aware that there are many things that you "know" that are false.

Side: No, it's not.
1 point

I think acting on homosexual desires is a choice. Everyone is born with desires they ought not act on

Side: Yes, it is.
AangKorra(25) Disputed Banned
1 point

I think you're confused about the question.

The question you're answering is "Is homosexual sex a choice?" The answer is yes (unless you're raped, of course).

The question you're supposed to answer is "Is homosexuality a choice?" The answer to that question is no.

You choose to have sex with someone. You do NOT choose to be attracted to someone--you just are. Sex and sexuality are different.

Side: No, it's not.
1 point

Nobody has to do perverted things with their body, nobody has to have perverted thoughts. If you've done or imagined doing perverted things, you need to admit it's perverted and seek God's mercy and by His grace stand with Him against your own perversions and never say such perversions are ok for anybody.......in other words, you do not have to be a pervert, you don't have to be dirty minded, and you don't have to get dirty with other perverts.

And if you have at any time not cared about this sound advice and got dirty with another person, statistically you likely carry at least two STD's if they are dormant or have activated syptoms....Herpes and HPV. There's also a good chance you have Hep C or Aids, both of which can remain dormant for 20 years before showing symptoms.....and a whole slew of other STD's thanks to the perverts throughout the course of sinful man's history.

It can help you feel better, after thinking about all of this, to go take a long hot shower but it really won't help physically. Just let it be symbolic of your new desire to live clean in mind and body, and repent of all your sin and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and renounce all perversion.

Thanks, I hope this helps.

Side: Yes, it is.
1 point

I just want to put my two cents in here and say I believe the answer is more complex than "yes" or "no" to this question. Nothing is ever so clear-cut.

Currently I have yet to find (and I have researched) any legitimate scientific data supporting that homosexuality is genetically inherited, so lets rule that out for now. Which means if it isn't a choice, then it likely has to do with something going wrong with the brain at some point in development that results in faulty wiring or hormone levels. If this is true (and again, while there is some suggestive evidence there is nothing concrete) then a person may indeed not have a choice in the matter.

However, I believe that the people who have the above state scenario make up only a portion of the people who claim to be homosexual. For the rest, I do believe it is a "choice", although many would never admit it even to themselves. The choice is likely pushed upon them by environmental circumstances. I do know that this current movement to encourage teenagers to "explore their sexual preferences" as part of their natural development is not helping things at all. Telling an impressionable young teenager to "discover who they really are" is the exact wrong thing to do imo. The brain is easily fooled and changed, especially at a young age. Further support for the "it's a choice" population is found in people who decide to be homosexual after already having been in a serious heterosexual relationship (such as that cliche father/mother of two children who has a midlife crisis and decide they were gay all along. Sorry, not buying it).

So there's my thoughts on the matter. Homosexuals make up such a small portion of the population (I believe last I heard it was around 1 to 3%) but I believe the number of people who actually have no choice is smaller than that.

Side: Yes, it is.
Torton(28) Clarified
1 point

The environmental factors are almost entirely out of your control, at least as long as you're a youth (being born into a poor family v. being born into a wealthy family, and all the conditions that change from one to the other), so it's quite a stretch to argue that it's a choice because of them.

Side: Yes, it is.
Kattinja(14) Clarified
1 point

Valid point. I suppose I'm mostly saying in that regard that if you are homosexual due to environmental factors then it negates the belief that you are "born this way". Also, by factors I also mean things like peer pressure, or life circumstances (I can think of half a dozen psychological situations that might make a person choose homosexuality, theoretically) in which case it would be a choice.

Side: Yes, it is.
2 points

I can say from personal experience it is not. When I was ~5 years old I already knew I wanted to date blokes when I was older, there was no way a 5 year old child could have made that decision, it's just something I've always known. Everyone else knew I was going to grow up to be gay since I was about 2 or 3 and everything I did or said was feminine. It's a central part of who I am as a person and it is something hard wired into our brains (I believe it's actually been shown that gay men have different brain structures to straight, which would prove this and that it's not a choice)

Side: No, it's not.
1 point

Hey man have not seen you in awhile hope you are doing good!

Side: No, it's not.
1 point

Thanks you too hon

Side: No, it's not.
2 points

It is neither. Sexuality can be formed as a result of experience. Child sexual abuse being on example but there are surely more subtle factors than that too. Could it be that some people are also born homosexual? I don't know. I haven't read any evidence to suggest that they are.

Side: No, it's not.
AangKorra(25) Banned
1 point

HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT A DECISION.

If you're a straight person, I'd like to ask you about when you "decided" to be straight. You can't answer that question, can you?? See, there's no decision to be made! LGBTs are born the way they are. Like race or gender, sexuality is a naturally occurring thing. It's not like people wake up one day and say, "I'm gonna be gay from now on!"

If you think otherwise, you're VERY misinformed.

Side: No, it's not.
1 point

Well i do not debate this one any more i ask a simple question now!

Could you choose to have sexual relations with the same sex- if your heterosexual

Could you choose to have sexual relations with the opposite sex_if your homosexual?

Side: No, it's not.

no one chooses their sexuality whether homo or hetero .if you disagree, when did you make your choice and what paperwork did you complete ?

Side: No, it's not.
1 point

It is a complicated question.

For the most part, male homosexuals who classify themselves a such and have always had homosexual sex were BORN with a genetic pre-disposition that affected their sexual preference and gave them attraction to other males. Ask any homosexual man about this and they will tell you they knew even back during adolescence they were Gay.

That said, men who grew up being mainly attratced to women and indeed had most of their sexual activities with women, can still engage in homosexual sex on occasion. THis is rare, however.

Bottom line is, for the vast majority of Gay men, they WERE indeed born that way. We have still now identified a "gay gene" however. And are not sure there IS one.

Thy Gay disposition may have something to do with a final hormonal "wash" that is undergone by the unborn fetus in the womb during the second Trimester of gestation. But this is not by any means a universally-agreed upon idea.

With gay women, yeah, they are several times more likely to have "decided" to be lesbians. Real lesbos, those born with a pre-genetic disposition for that, refer to these chicks as "emotional lesbians." Maybe they had a bad experience with men while they were kids or young adults. So they decided to switch over and be a lesbian.

This "emotional gayness" is probably five times more common in women then their male Gay counterparts.

Side: No, it's not.
1 point

No one would fucking choose to be homosexual.

Side: No, it's not.
DBCooper(2194) Disputed
1 point

They wouldn't ? Where does the choice come in then ? Has the choice been made since their conception ?

Side: Yes, it is.
instig8or(3308) Disputed
1 point

There was no choice.

Side: No, it's not.
1 point

The debate description is a little weird. Making choices is natural for humans. Something being a choice doesn't make it unnatural.

Side: No, it's not.
AangKorra(25) Banned
1 point

I see your point, and you're right. Choices are indeed natural for humans, and I didn't mean to say that they aren't--I just worded it a little weird. I'll change it.

Thanks!

Side: No, it's not.

I think people like what they like; it just happens. You know when you're a kid which side of the aisle turns you on. I remember as a 4-5 year old sitting on an older girls lap and feeling something. I didn't know what, but I liked it. I know now. Just saying.

Side: No, it's not.
1 point

"I willingly want my life to be more difficult and to be the subject of unnecessary discrimination." - No one ever

Obviously it isn't a choice.

Side: No, it's not.
1 point

Much more overwhelmingly likely of it not being a choice than of the opposite.

Side: No, it's not.

There has been proven that when someone is born gay there is actually a change in there brain. There is a growth in a certain area.

Alot of people go through traumatic abuse or experiences and they turn gay.

I feel like maybe that is a choice but it could also be.

While there are some cases where it is a choice I feel as though you cant help who you are attracted to.

Side: No, it's not.