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Is homosexuality a mental disorder?
Milo Yiannopoulis, who is a gay debater, says that being gay is a mental disorder, and that he wants to overcome it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgoyQevEhhQ
Homosexuality may not be a mental disorder in the usually accepted meaning of the term but it is a deviant sexual orientation.
As deviant is a word used to characterize any form of abnormal behaviour the condition of homosexuality could legitimately be described as a type of malfunction of one's mental faculties.
Many criminals show signs of ''deviant'' behaviour in their childhood.
Deviant sexual orientation should be accepted by all normal people and recognized as an involuntary condition for which there is no cure.
Social norms are subjective. Homosexuality might be considered deviant only if we consider heterosexuality the only "normative" sexuality, which I absolutely do not -- sexuality, as scientific inquiry has shown us, exists on a spectrum. Besides, in a wider historical context, promoting strict heterosexuality as the only socially acceptable orientation is a rather unusual position. Take a look at nature and you see homosexuality in lots of species, and plenty of cultures in human history have accepted homosexuality as a norm, even practiced it freely. So whether something is "deviant" in one society's perspective, does not necessarily mean that it should be classed as a mental disorder or viewed as a negative practice.
A hundred years ago, female initiation of divorce was deviant. A hundred years ago, inter-racial relationships were deviant. But they are hardly a mental malfunction, and certainly not wrong.
You Progressives just don't have a clue ! Let's talk homosexuality so can 2 men produce an offspring ? Can 2 women produce an offspring ? So where do homosexuals come from?
You Progressives just don't have a clue ! Let's talk homosexuality so can 2 men produce an offspring ? Can 2 women produce an offspring ? So where do homosexuals come from?
I already did, homosexuality does not hinder the reproduction system. Talking about two men reproducing is otherwise meaningless in this debate context.
No, homosexuals do not necessarily come from a heterosexual couple. Two men could be married and through the sperm of one of them and a surrogate, they could have a child. Two women likewise with the help of a donor could also conceive and have a child. Neither party needs to be heterosexual either as a gay man could easily donate sperm and a lesbian could carry a child.
Not every trait that you're born with is genetic. Even if it was genetic, recessive genes could easily explain homosexuality, but it doesn't. Like many things, being gay is likely a combination of your genes and the environment.
Nope, not that environment. In phenotypes, "environment" could include trees and vegitation to some extent I suppose, but it's more specifically referencing the conditions you grew up around. Your 'environment,' or the 'nurture' aspect of expression, are qualities like race, birth country, parents, education, socioeconomic status, and so on, that can influence who you are.
Even things like temperature can affect expression, see the coats of arctic foxes.
"Mental illness refers to a wide range of mental health conditions — disorders that affect your mood, thinking and behavior"
Disorder-disrupt the systematic functioning or neat arrangement of.
So given the definition we can clearly see that homosexuality is a Mental Disorder. I come to this conclusion because in the definition is says disorder(definition above) which relates in this definition because being homosexual disrupts the systematic functioning of the reproductive system. additionally it is a disorder that effects your mood thinking and behavior for the same sex : )
At our basic human nature our primary purpose as animals is to survive and insure the survival of our species. ( https://blogs.scientificamerican.com... ) If a person is a homosexual it is biologically impossible for that person to reproduce thus contradicting their basic human instincts it is because of this that I view homosexuality as a mental disorder as it is a clear "disruption in... daily functioning". Now I do not believe homosexuality is morally wrong as I myself am bisexual, however I do feel it is a disorder much like a sociopath in the sense that there is nothing inherently wrong with being a sociopath it is only wrong when that sociopath commits a murder. To be a classified with any of the LGBT characteristics is a mental disorder and that is not a bad thing.
Homosexuality is not defined as a mental disorder in the DSM 5 or ICD-10. Thus, anyone claiming it is a mental disorder is going to have to present some extremely compelling evidence. In fact, homosexuality used to be a mental disorder, but the APA decided to remove it in the DSM IV. I think anyone claiming that homosexuality is a mental disorder will have to explain why they should be taken as seriously as the APA, the literal authority on defining what is a mental disorder.
Because the APA is another liberal hack, just like the American media. Liberal Politics has infected nearly every single if not all institutions in the United States, including even the Republican Party. It has always been able to do what it wants by using money as leverage and bribes. That's why Trump has the establishment in disarray. He couldn't be bought, and is the first President in a long time that wasn't "planned" by the political elites.
Anyone who thinks homosexuality is a mental disorder needs to be checked for a mental disorder themselves. it is even normal for animals such as dolphins and lions to be in homosexual relationships so- what gives???
You are a liar! Never have they shown a lion or dolphin that does not ever have sex with the opposite sex and only has sex with the same sex.
We constantly hear this same pathetic lie from Gay activists. Show us all the gay pets please. And when you don't, don't waste our times with dogs humping anything that moves. Show me a dog that does not want sex with the opposite sex.
Do you LGBT activists EVER STOP WITH YOUR DECEPTION AND DISTORTION?
This is what you biased site said.....
"research scientists at the University of Massachusetts studied more than 120 bottlenose dolphins in western Australia, concluding that the males were “found to engage in extensive bisexuality, combined with periods of exclusive homosexuality.”
NOTICE THE WORDING...... "periods" of homosexuality. PERIODS! So are you saying that Gay men are only homosexual for periods of time and then go back to women?
LOL, why do I waste my time with this drivvel.
I asked for proof of homosexual animals who do not want to have sex with the opposite sex.
AS ALWAYS, you show us animals who will have sex with anything that moves when being aroused.
Male dogs will also hump other male dogs. They will hump your leg, and idiots try to say this is being homosexual?
EVERY SINGLE SITE TALKING ABOUT GAY ANIMALS SPEWS THE SAME LIES AND DECEPTION!
Supposed homosexual male Gay geese never have sex with other male geese. They simply pair up for whatever reason. It could be as simple as not having an opposite sex geese around at the time.
You are grasping at straws to try and make yourselves feel secure with your sexual orientations.
Do you know that humans who identify as gay still get physical pleasure for heterosexual sex? And humans who identify as straight still get physical pleasure from homosexual sex? Throughout history, societies that don't apply arbitrary restrictions to sex tended to experience more sexual fluidity, with people acting in ways that provided pleasure without harming anyone.
You think the only way to identify a homosexual animal is one who is sexually repelled by the opposite sex?
Our society is a perfect exmple of your anything goes no fault sexual promiscuity.
Our families are in the worst shape of our history and you call that sexual fluidity a good thing?
Our children are growing up with no fathers from this free sex, one night hook ups, sex with no commitment or no love culture.
Those children are the ones getting harmed. The tax payers whose income is being taken to support unwed mothers on welfare are being harmed.
It truly is amazing how blind the Left is to the true results of an amoral society. But I don't believe they are actually blind to it....THEY JUST SIMPLY DON'T CARE HOW MANY CHILDREN HAVE NO FATHERS AND THEY DON'T CARE HOW MANY BABIES ARE ABORTED FROM THIS SELF LOVE CULTURE.
They don't care how much money they redistribute from tax payers to fund this fluidity of sex and people like you say no one is getting harmed.
First of all, you know that gay sex doesn't result in pregnancy, right?
You know what else doesn't result in pregnancy? Safe. Sex. Which is why I, and every other person I know who seriously promotes 'sexual freedom,' above all else, value safety, contraceptive use, and frequent testing for STIs of sexually active adults.
I think I still don't understand what your problem is with those who are 'sexually free' and have consistently safe sex.
Our families are in the worst shape of our history
You say this a lot. I'm just wondering, what specifically makes you think this? I know your answer is 'fatherless families,' but like, what makes you so sure of the severity of this issue?
Duhhhh, and who was engaging in this unsafe sex? Gays!
Wait, so your problem is with gay people now? Because they have unsafe sex? But I thought you took issue with promiscuity, regardless of safety? I'm confused on what you're trying to argue.
I take issue with unsafe sex. It's irresponsible and idiotic.
I realize people like you will try to say that most Gays live responsibly and i will laugh at you.
Are you trying to imply that it is impossible for a gay man or woman to not be monogamous? And how are you defining responsible?
And gee, I wonder if that has anything to do with the complete absence of gay sex ed in our education systems.
Just to let you the site clown understand, I never open up any sites you waste your time looking up.
You are the fool copying debates. The day I ever acknowledge anything you say or any site you post will be never.
Now I hope you keep spending your life chained to my every post and I hope you spend lots of time researching sites. It warms my heart to see you waste so much of your life reading every word of my posts.
I never open up any sites you waste your time looking up
So let's make this clear, you say
Show us the gay pets!
and when we show you, you refuse to open the evidence? That's the equivalent of plugging your ears and yelling, "I can't hear you!" Time to grow up and accept proof even if you don't like it.
You are cueless sense you HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
I made that comment to the site Clown who stalks and copies my every debate. I will never read anything he posts and i will never debate him.
If you cared to follow the same question from another poster and the same site given to me, I indeed did open the site and addressed his claims of Gay dolphins which of course was totally false once again.
Read the site and then read my response please. No need to apologize even though i know you won't.
My point was it's easy to find evidence of homosexuality in nature (took me a whole 5 seconds), but you're not actually looking for proof, you just want to be a troll...gotcha.
I just do what Liberals refuse to do. Be honest about the actual facts.
Not one site that I have ever read from people telling us that homosexuality is in nature, has proven their claim.
It is always biased reporting to try and push a Leftwing narrative.
They show sites concerning so called Gay geese, and after reading the facts we find out that the male geese do not even engage in sex.
They show sites concerning so called Gay dolphins, and after reding the facts we find out it is bisexual and Homosexual behavior at certain times when they are aroused.
Many aimals will hump anything when aroused. That does not make them Gay!
I never open up any sites you waste your time looking up.
Why are you on a debate site if you refuse to debate the other side?
The control I have on you is quite amazing.
Well i'm clad I've given you some meaning to your life.
I hope you spend lots of time researching sites.
Yep spent a whole 5 seconds googling gay dolphins.
It warms my heart to see you waste so much of your life reading every word of my posts.
funny thing is I rarely spend time reading your posts. Though it is funny debates that take you a long time get less attention than debates that me seconds.
I don't refuse to debate the other side, I refuse to debate you the site clown who copies debates that you just claimed you hardly ever read. You have strange debating skills.
You don't read my debate yet you copy the debate so you can ridicule the person who created the debate. You just admitted that you have no interest in debating my debates since you seldom even read them. Thanks for admitting what a total fool you are.
You are the site clown trying to bring attention to yourself and getting points that you are incapable of getting on your own.
The people that post on your copied debates are mostly the deceptive people i ban. Do you think I want them posting on my debates? I ban them for a reason.
You keep right on wasting your time stalking my every debate. Keep copying them so people can not miss them and read my words.
Thank you for doubling the exposure of my opinions.
SnowFlake you Progressives view abnormal behavior as normal and that view should be pushed on all Americans because that is the way you view it ! And you wonder why the Progressives were soundly defeated under Barack Obama ! Not to hard to figure that one out !
The act of sodomy may be, but being gay and having gay desires isnt.
Certain aspects of sodomy, such as bestiality, may be wrong, but homosexuality isnt. If you're going to claim that all aspects of sodomy are wrong, add a logical argument and conclusion to support your claim.
If you can't control your desires, you are a dog. It is no coincidence that sodomites in the Bible are called dogs.
It is logical to state the truth that you can control your feelings, your desires, your actions, your words, and your thoughts. If you think you can't, or you think others can't, your lying to yourself and to others, making cheap excuses for immorality.
If you won't listen to reason, there is no such thing as a logical support of truth.
It is logical to state the truth that when you fail to control your thoughts, actions, and desires, you are doing wrong. It is logical to state that you are responsible for everything you do, think, or feel.
Fools say things like "present a logical argument to support your statements, it does not matter if what you say is true and I won't accept your logic anyways".
The truth does not require a logical argument. The truth is that your head is hard, but a rock is harder. If you want a logical argument, pick up a big rock and drop it on your head.
All sex outside of marriage (the lifetime legal bond of a man and woman as one flesh) is wrong. If you want a logical argument and conclusion supporting this fact, just play around until you get AIDS.
Homosexuality is wrong. If you think there is nothing wrong with it, you deserve the STD's that go along with it and everybody who hears you say there is nothing wrong with it and agrees with you also deserves those diseases including everybody you know and love.
How do you feel now? Do you feel like arguing against the truth?
....what? I don't understand. Of course truth requires a logical argument.
"All sex outside of marriage (the lifetime legal bond of a man and woman as one flesh) is wrong. If you want a logical argument and conclusion supporting this fact, just play around until you get AIDS.
Homosexuality is wrong. If you think there is nothing wrong with it, you deserve the STD's that go along with it and everybody who hears you say there is nothing wrong with it and agrees with you also deserves those diseases including everybody you know and love.
How do you feel now? Do you feel like arguing against the truth?"
Saint, I'm honestly not understanding. I get that homosexuality is wrong, and adultery is wrong, and so on, but I don't understand why.
Also, I have a question while we're at logic. What do you think about logical fallacies?
Here's a website I like to use often, which references the fallacies. Do you agree with the website?
What is hard to understand? 2+2=4, that is the truth, and if you won't believe it there is no logic which will convince you. The truth stands if you believe it or not, it can be logically explained only if you will believe it is true. If you won't believe the truth is true, you won't believe it but you won't change the fact that the truth is true. You do not have to accept the fact, but you do have to endure the consequences of your choice if you like it or not.
You never heard of STD's? If you degrade your body and give it away for less than it is worth which is your entire lifetime, you hurt yourself and others. You really can't be so dumb that you can't figure out why sex outside of marriage is wrong, and homosexual relations are not marriage no matter what the law says.
I do not believe it's a mental disorder, but may I ask why they first must believe it's a choice? Bi-polar is a mental disorder, but it's not a choice, nor is any other mental disorder.
You did not even provide any evidence it is not lmao and here you go
"Mental illness refers to a wide range of mental health conditions — disorders that affect your mood, thinking and behavior"
Disorder-disrupt the systematic functioning or neat arrangement of.
So given the definition we can clearly see that homosexuality is a Mental Disorder. I come to this conclusion because in the definition is says disorder(definition above) which relates in this definition because being homosexual disrupts the systematic functioning of the reproductive system. additionally it is a disorder that effects your mood thinking and behavior for the same sex : )
No I did not provide evidence because I am not making a claim.
because being homosexual disrupts the systematic functioning of the reproductive system
No it does not disrupt the reproductive system. In fact many homosexual couples still use their reproductive systems to conceive children; women through sperm donors and men through surrogates.
additionally it is a disorder that effects your mood thinking and behavior for the same sex
By your argument happiness and sadness (not depression, just being sad) is a mental disorder.
Also if not not making a claim do not post an on the feed. you post on the feed to place an argument.
An argument is not the same as a claim. There is no sufficient evidence to support the idea of homosexuality being a mental disorder. To presume something to be true without reason is illogical. It is not up to me to prove it's not; it's up to whomever is making the claim it is to prove it.
A penis entering a vagina is the systematic functioning.
Says who? Again, I don't care much for your opinion. If you want to make your case you need proof; something more than just throwing out certain terms and providing your own opinion on what it means.
You provided a link regarding mental issues.
"Mental illness refers to a wide range of mental health conditions — disorders that affect your mood, thinking and behavior. Examples of mental illness include depression, anxiety disorders, schizophrenia, eating disorders and addictive behaviors.
Many people have mental health concerns from time to time. But a mental health concern becomes a mental illness when ongoing signs and symptoms cause frequent stress and affect your ability to function.
A mental illness can make you miserable and can cause problems in your daily life, such as at school or work or in relationships. In most cases, symptoms can be managed with a combination of medications and talk therapy (psychotherapy)."
Nothing in this suggests homosexuality as being a mental disorder nor does homosexuality fit the description.
"There is no sufficient evidence to support the idea of homosexuality being a mental disorder"
The very definition which I have listed is exactly this evidence you say there is none of.
-Systematic-relating to a system, especially as opposed to a particular part
-Functioning-work or operate in a proper or particular way
The reproductive system is not working in its proper and particular way the human species has been designed/made
and for fucks sake I am not going to re word my entire arguement because you dont understand re read it and that will respond to you not even thinking before saying nothing in this suggests homosexuality is a mental disorder.
you are just saying that what i am saying is opinion and your attacking the points when i clearly list why my points are true your making me re state what i have already said
The very definition which I have listed is exactly this evidence you say there is none of.
No, what you provided defines what a mental disorder is; categorizing homosexuality as such is merely your opinion.
The reproductive system is not working in its proper and particular way the human species has been designed/made
As I've stated, being a homosexual does not mean your reproductive system is not working properly. Whether they use it for reproductive uses (as I have pointed out many do) is up to them, but that doesn't mean it's not functioning. When I was younger and living with roommates I once poured a beer into a measuring cup because we didn't feel like washing dishes. Was the measuring cup designed for the purpose of drinking a beverage? No. Does that mean the measuring cup was no longer functioning properly? Of course not! Weird analogy? Sure, but it makes the point.
Also, who is to say the penis and vagina only exist for reproductive purposes? They also are used for evacuating ones waste and simply for pleasure (which is obviously the case with homosexuality).
Should heterosexual couples not have sex if they are not attempting to reproduce? Should an older, married couple stop once they are no longer capable of reproducing? By your argument, does the latter couple also now have a mental disorder because their reproductive systems are no longer functioning?
and for fucks sake I am not going to re word my entire arguement because you dont understand
I understand your argument, and it's complete crap.
Ol' Milo "IS" a gay mental disorder, among other bad, twisted things. Frankly, I think anyone who uses his thoughts as an "intelligent argument" has a mental disorder too. I'm not saying he CAN'T be right about anything, I would just find a better source. Believing anything he says would be like believing diarrhea tastes good!
In other words... pick a source that you personally aprove of... because obviously Milo, a gay man, has a mental disorder, thus he cannot legitimately say being gay is a mental disorder... got it.
You think Milo has a mental disorder, I think YOU have a mental disorder. I would not treat an unfortunate man like you as you would treat another unfortunate, but then, I'm an Atheist and not led by the cruelties of radical theists. YOU cannot legitimately say HE has a mental disorder if you have one too.....got it??
We're all a little crazy, but, those who have become "radical" are dangerous. I would bet over 50% of CD considers you "radical".
The "mystical-merry-go-round" is the laughable fact that YOU vote for Trump, and tell ME I have a "mental disorder"! Psychiatrists all over the country are analyzing Trumps actions (and reactions), trying to figure out if he is indeed incapable of being the President! I believe when the jury's verdict is in, it will not look good for his most outspoken voters. ......talk away.
You gave us a fried rat terd as our other option. We chose the peas over the drippings from a cow that you offered us. Knock knock knock! Hello Mcfly? Anybody home?
Psychiatrists all over the country are analyzing Trumps actions (and reactions)
They did it to Obama too, and then labeled him a narcissist. You just didn't care when it was the guy who comes on camera high on cocaine during the Olympics.
trying to figure out if he is indeed incapable of being the President!
Unemployment is the lowest in ten years, and we aren't dropping as many bombs as the prior administration. What exactly were you looking for, free cookies?
I believe when the jury's verdict is in, it will not look good for his most outspoken voters. ......talk away.
Oh we started ignoring the liberal propaganda machine decades ago when they went full retard. We've heard Chicken Little many times over the political years. The sky is falling? These chimps caused us to doubt there even was a sky...
I think Milo has some other problems that needs attending to other than him being gay. I like listening to him sometimes (even though I don't agree with him on everything), but it seems like this man is lost as last year's Easter egg.