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Is it Cool to be Anti-America?

Uhhh, yeah.... duh.

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Shut up!

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4 points

Yeah... that's why so many Euro-trash-bags-of-dicks are, they think it makes them "cool". LOL

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It's the ultimate testament of edginess .

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I think it is wrong to hate America but I dont want to tell you to shut up. ;)

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I don't think its wrong to be "Anti-America" . I KNOW America isn't the purest country and probably isn't the friendliest. I can definitely understand why outside countries can view a negative perspective among the American People so I would say if its cool with you then its cool with me. But just leave it at that and don't try to actually hurt or try to cause damage to America. That being said, I wouldn't tell you to shut up.

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About as cool as being homophobic.

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1 point

provided you have extensive knowledge of the area, yes. If you have never been, or a just making judgements based on media/popular culture, then no.

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2 points

As the USA dominate popular culture, it is not cool. However there are many good reasons to hate the USA other than it being cool.

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Coldfire(1014) Clarified
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Despite my dislike for your general bias towards the US, I have to admit that I agree with your statement here.

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It's cool to be anti America if you are a Liberal Democrat. They are ashamed of our nation built on free market capitalism. They subscribe to a Socialistic ideology where a person's status in life has nothing to do with his work ethic or irresponsible choices in life. Their idea of utopia would be one huge commune where all of our hard earned money would be controlled by Government & redistributed to whoever gives them the most votes. As it sits right now, the 47% of Americans who pay no federal tax will vote for Democrats & assure that the worst President in our history could get elected again. Hillary will be their next pick & the actual hard working tax payer will have no say in electing our leaders. I think that is called taxation without representation.

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Coldfire(1014) Clarified
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It's cool to be anti America if you are a Liberal Democrat.

I suppose the constitutional Republicans are ok with the atrocities made by the administration throughout the centuries? Or the welfare state this country has grown to foster?

While there may be a special place in their heart for what America used to be, you cannot deny that they are against what it has become; many conservatives are anti-American too.

They are ashamed of our nation built on free market capitalism.

So are the fiscal conservatives. We haven’t had a free market based economy for several decades.

They subscribe to a Socialistic ideology where a person's status in life has nothing to do with his work ethic or irresponsible choices in life.

Work ethic is over rated. We are continuously told that it is something worth holding on to yet an ever-flowing stream of innovation seeks to continuously reduce the amount of effort needed to reach a goal. If hard work was truly aspiring, we would still be laboring in the fields with hoes and hammers.

Regardless of that, those are not what the socialism ideology stands for. Socialism partly seeks to attain a system where a person’s social status is not determined by their economic status (rich or poor) but they do not disregard the importance of employment or responsible choices. If anything, the importance of these things is realized even more in an ideology of community involvement versus 'individualism is paramount.'

Their idea of utopia would be one huge commune where all of our hard earned money would be controlled by Government & redistributed to whoever gives them the most votes.

“hard earned money” is highly debatable. But the thing you describe is not the method of resource distribution inherent in a socialistic economy. Resources aren’t gathered up by some ruling party and distributed to certain individuals based on votes, that is what crony capitalism entails.

In socialism production of resources is determined on a basis of usefulness. Products and services are regarded for their utility and not based on a needless accumulation of capital and production for profit. Two methods for distribution of resources have been proposed, a “from each according to ability to each according to need” system (which leans more towards a communistic ideal) and a “to each according to his contribution” principle (which leans more toward capitalistic ideals).

I highly recommend you research this topic further; most of what you say in opposition to socialism resembles parroted misconceptions taken from the media that are simply not true.

BTW, I'm not a socialist, far from it in fact. But I'm also disillusioned enough to see past the popular misconceptions in propaganda.

As it sits right now, the 47% of Americans who pay no federal tax will vote for Democrats & assure that the worst President in our history could get elected again.

The tax system is flawed for many reasons. Certainly a reason to be anti-American, but it’s not realistic to single out one party as the sole culprit for the flawed tax system.

Hillary will be their next pick & the actual hard working tax payer will have no say in electing our leaders.

Again “hard working tax payer” is highly debatable. Besides, I think you may be under some sort of delusion to think that the publics’ votes are what actually determine the outcome of who gets elected in office.

Elected officials are more like “selected” officials. The people currently in power select individuals who they think will cooperate or succumb to bribes and then run a smear campaign and illusory voting period where the public is led to believe they are the ones pulling the strings... The only strings being pulled are their own.

Even if the system wasn’t this corrupt and we had an honest method of voting, it is based on a democratic ideal… a mob mentality. The group with the most votes gets the prize, so if you’re complaining, you are the minority.

I hate to say “there are plenty of other countries to live in” but I for one will not be sticking around in this country for much longer, I suggest you consider it a viable resolution as well… no shame in abandoning a sinking ship. Things will get worse before they get better.

I think that is called taxation without representation.

I suppose it can be interpreted in this way. I certainly do not believe my ideals are represented by the people in office. But considering we are no longer owned by a foreign nation, have delegats from each state, and have enacted strenuous laws prohibiting non-citizens in office, Americans citizens are the only people representing Americans. In this sense “taxation without representation” does not technically apply. Probably the only people who could claim otherwise in this sense are residents of the District of Columbia who pay federal taxes yet aren't represented in Congress.

However I will admit that the slogan can be used for just about any lack of representation, I would even go as far to argue that no one in the country has representation unless they are the ones directly in power. The administration continually enacts legislation and involves us in foreign affairs without any perceivable direction from the public, but I attribute most of that to an overall unaware and uninformed population of non-critical thinkers. Easily divided, distracted, deceived; easily… controlled.

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FromWithin(8239) Disputed
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We could banter words of why our nation is bankrupting itself & why our culture is degrading to a self love welfare mentality but you know what? There is but one way to know which side is more at fault for the decline of America. History always sheds light on the right or wrong of an ideology or party. Is there a person alive who would not admit we have been moving in the Liberal or so called progressive direction for decades now? To deny this is to waste my time. So if we are going to place blame on which party is more at fault, it would definitely be the Democrat party. They have become the closet Socialist party & the results are clear. Ever growing welfare roles, ever growing Government dependence, ever growing Government intrusion into every aspect of our lives.

Conservatives have fought to keep our laws & ideology more traditional because they know it works. It takes no rocket scientist to know moral values are good for a nation. It takes no genius to know that a smaller Government of the people & by the people are what made America the greatest nation on Earth. Conservatives believe in SMALLER Government because as you admitted, Government is corrupt & bloated & has no answers to our problems other than how to get elected.

Conservatives do not hate America, they hate the Liberal ideology that is destroying it.

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Darn you had me until you knocked me! Here is the deal, I'm poor, poor poor, I work. I also get my tax return for everything I payed in during the year. So I am one of those who pays no taxes. I'm am not a socialist libreal, I'm so tired of people thinking that all libreals are poor, or poor people are all libreals and want a free ride. Your judgmental argument holds no water except for the biased attitude you have towards the label we put on people. Making a judgement call like this would make this statement false. And about the number, I feel you pulled it out of your ass.

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Both sides have issues. .

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I think this is a case of misplaced cause.

People waking up from the delusion that the ‘US is the best country in the world’ is not the result of a popular trend, there may be those who jump on the band wagon because they see several people pointing out the flaws in the US, but the majority of dislike towards the US is not without substantial reason.

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I wouldn't necessarily want to tell you to shut up but I will stand up for what I think is right. We are Americans and I completely disagree with an Anti-American mindset. I live here. I love America and so does God. I do not like the politicians and government. But I do like the Land. God Bless America!!!!

And to Answer the Question. No it is not cool to be Anti-American.

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Even though there is some problems in the U.S there is many things that is good about being an American. Lets start with the whole government thing first. The U.S have an democratic republic which some other countries don't have. Some is under dictatorship and some have what we have. Also with the army and navy it is said that the United States have one of the strongest army in the world that we know of. So with that I will have to say that being an American is good.

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It's good to hate the American government but not American people.

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America is a great place. Our government ensures or rights and our freedom. Other countries don't have that and this good some thing Americans take for granted. Capitalism is also good you don't make money because you were "entitled" to it you made it because you put forth effort and worked for it. A lot of millionaires got their millions because they worked for it with hard work and good decisions. What is paramount thorough is that it is not okay to hate Americans it is okay to hate our government because that is your own personal opinion but to hate the people without knowing them or having met is is biased crap.

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