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Uhhhh, NO Trump can do no wrong
Debate Score:18
Arguments:17
Total Votes:20
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Is it good to have a science denier in charge of the coronavirus?

Hello:

Smoking will NOT kill you, said Mike Pence.. 

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2020/02/27/pence-smoking-cancer-donald-trump-coronavirus-response/4890066002/

When he was governor, Pence moved slowly in combating HIV outbreak causing many more deaths.


https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/pence-moved-slowly-in-combating-hiv-outbreak/

excon

Uhhhh, NO

Side Score: 7
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Trump can do no wrong

Side Score: 11

Obama administration failed to implement all of the CDC's advice to prevent an Ebola outbreak

"The Centers for Disease Control told the incoming Obama administration in 2008 that it should establish 18 regional disease detection centers around the world to adequately safeguard the U.S. from emerging health threats like Ebola, according to an agency memo."

Supporting Evidence: Story link (m.washingtontimes.com)
Side: Uhhhh, NO

When he was governor, Pence moved slowly in combating HIV outbreak causing many more deaths.

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President Obama’s Ebola problem

"The Ebola crisis in the United States has become an anchor threatening to sink the Obama presidency.

Already under fire from critics who saw the federal response to the outbreak as disorganized and timid, things went from bad to worse on Wednesday, when it was revealed a second nurse had contracted the disease while treating a Liberian man at a Dallas-area hospital.

More alarmingly, the diagnosis was made just hours after the nurse, 29-year-old Amber Vinson, had flown from Cleveland to Dallas on a commercial airliner, despite reporting to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that she had a fever.

That Vinson was allowed to travel at all - along with continued questions about why federal procedures for Ebola treatment appear not to have been implemented in Dallas - have prompted serious questions about the administration's handling of the disease less than three weeks before the midterm elections."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/news/administration/220922-president-obamas-ebola-problem?amp

Side: Uhhhh, NO
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You just made the perfect argument for why we wouldn't want the government in charge of our healthcare. The great thing about Republicanism is it doesn't just attempt to protect you from those with power on the left.

Side: Trump can do no wrong
excon(18260) Disputed
1 point

You just made the perfect argument for why we wouldn't want the government in charge of our healthcare.

Hello again, Levin:

You're RIGHT.. I DON'T want the government in charge of my health care.. That's why the ONLY role government has in MY Medicare for all plan, would be to write checks..

Look.. This is simple.. When you cover EVERYBODY for EVERYTHING, there's NOTHING left for the government to do..

excon

Side: Uhhhh, NO
LevinTV(195) Disputed
1 point

You're RIGHT.. I DON'T want the government in charge of my health care..

Then none of the Democrat candidates in the field are a viable option for you.

That's why the ONLY role government has in MY Medicare for all plan, would be to write checks..

And to tax you mercilessly, and also to try to recruit more doctors into a field that's already oversaturated despite high salaries that would vanish in a Socialist system. You'd have way fewer doctors and way more patients.

Look.. This is simple.. When you cover EVERYBODY for EVERYTHING, there's NOTHING left for the government to do..

They would have to raise taxes monumentally on you to cover the costs of a spike in numbers of non-Americans who would come here by the boatloads to get the healthcare you have proposed on this site in the past. They would also have to do crowd control at the massive long waiting lines for the few doctors that wouldn't quit as they are doing already due to government overreach.

Describe your system's plan for when doctors in high quantities decide they don't have to be doctors anymore because the occupation is even tougher than it is now.

Side: Trump can do no wrong
LevinTV(195) Disputed
1 point

Physicians are increasingly responding by leaving active medical practice. And many of America’s best and brightest are declining to go into the field.

The statistics from the Physicians Foundation survey are alarming. Of the 8,700 doctors queried, fewer than half say they are satisfied with their jobs. By contrast, 79 percent of American workers give their jobs a thumbs-up.

This low level of job satisfaction among doctors is especially shocking since physicians have traditionally been some of the best-paid, most respected professionals in America.

More than three in four doctors feel burned out. Eighty percent are overworked and overextended, meaning they have little time to take on more patients. Nearly two-thirds are pessimistic about the future of the medical profession.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2018/10/15/government-policies-are-driving-doctors- to-quit-health-care/amp/

Side: Trump can do no wrong
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You just made the perfect argument for why we wouldn't want the government in charge of our healthcare.

There is no perfect argument for that because it's an absolutely retarded concept to prefer healthcare to be handled by private profit making businesses. It is right up there with climate denial in its grotesque stupidity.

What do you suppose a pharmaceutical firm would do if they invented a pill which cures cancer? Do you think they would:-

A) Pretend it doesn't exist do they could keep making billions in treatment costs.

B) Admit it exists, but charge people so much money for it that only the very richest could afford it.

C) Just happily dish it out to everybody free of charge.

Only a literal idiot would want big business in charge of his healthcare, which is ironic really, given that a literal idiot is precisely what you are.

Side: Uhhhh, NO
Redeemed(1428) Disputed
2 points

You call anyone retarded, who disagrees, with your opinions...................................

Side: Trump can do no wrong
1 point

Only a literal idiot would want big business in charge of his healthcare, which is ironic really

Government being in charge of your healthcare is the ultimate big business being in charge of your healthcare. Maybe you should put Corey Booker in as head of pharmaceuticals...

The fact that you trust the ultimate business and oligarchy like it's some kind of god is what is ironic.

Side: Trump can do no wrong
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What do you suppose a pharmaceutical firm would do if they invented a pill which cures cancer? Do you think they would:-

A) Pretend it doesn't exist do they could keep making billions in treatment costs.

B) Admit it exists, but charge people so much money for it that only the very richest could afford it.

C) Just happily dish it out to everybody free of charge.

They would do exactly what the governments that they own would do.

Side: Trump can do no wrong

President Trump is not a science denier...........................................................................................

Side: Trump can do no wrong
excon(18260) Disputed
1 point

President Trump is not a science denier..

Hello Y:

Well, he IS, of course.

https://time.com/5622374/donald-trump-climate-change-hoax-event/

But, he gave responsibility for the crisis to Mike Pence who IS a science denier..

You DO believe smoking kills, don't you?? How many people DIED because they listened to Pence??

excon

Side: Uhhhh, NO
YeshuaBought(2848) Clarified
2 points

I didn't know, sorry. i am someone, who has suffered harm, because of addictive tobacco products. I was almost murdered, over a cigarette, and since my depression is not going away, iand my genetic risk is high, i might have thyroid cancer. I understand if you don't believe me, but if someone lies, and places public health, in jepordy, they out to be sue, at best. You have my attention, sweetheart.

Side: Uhhhh, NO
1 point

How many people DIED because they listened to Pence??

My guess is zero.

1,000 died before Obama took action on swine flu. Care to discuss that? Nah, we both know you don't. You like your double standards with a side dish of even more double standards.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/oct/24/swine-flu-barack-obama?fbclid=IwAR3JM CqTIjz-4mChYzlGx6wfLoPXpzR1yR6z-QmLJVVdkvdYEAeVcDh5gg

Side: Trump can do no wrong

Pence and Trump both are science deniers, but so are you Excon, you fake Jew scumbag. You flaunt around a scientifically debunked ancestry test as "proof" that you belong to a race which doesn't physically even exist, you insist anybody who points this out hates Jews, and you assume that repeating the letters DNA over and over like a broken record player makes commercial ancestry tests scientifically viable. You are in absolutely no position to criticise anybody for denying science son.

Side: Trump can do no wrong
1 point

Pence and Trump both are science deniers

Cool. Tell me what climate oscillations or climate variability are. You can post any link and source of your choosing right here for the whole CD world to see, or you can simply look at the link I provide, and tell us if you accept the information in front of you.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_variability

Side: Uhhhh, NO