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30
Yes, it is getting annoying No, content shoudl mater mor
Debate Score:81
Arguments:51
Total Votes:122
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 Yes, it is getting annoying (29)
 
 No, content shoudl mater mor (22)

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Is it ok to vote down a debate because words are spelled wrong?

It seems as of late, there are many debaters who cannot even take the time to make sure the title of the debate is spelled correctly, let alone their (not there or they're) debates! I can handle a typo here and there (not their), but this seems like laziness.

Yes, it is getting annoying

Side Score: 51
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No, content shoudl mater mor

Side Score: 30
2 points

If I can't read a statement, it's not contributing anything to a debate. I won't waste my time trying to figure out what someone is trying to say if even they won't spend the time to make sure they're spelling correctly.

Side: Yes, it is getting annoying
2 points

They shouldn't be bothered with. If a poster cannot spell they usually cannot ask good questions either.

Side: Make up and down voting clear to all
2 points

Absolutely, if the purpose of the voting is to identify the most persuasive and effective arguments then spelling and grammar should be one of the first items to consider for an up vote or a down vote. The content should make up most of the consideration; still an argument written in all caps, fragments of thoughts, or worse both should be ignored at best and in most cases down voted. All that being said, one or two spelling errors isn't necessarily grounds for a down vote, but consistent, blatant, violations certainly should.

Side: Yes, it is getting annoying
1 point

agreed. i'm not going to be persuaded by a person that types like a five-year-old, and i don't think anyone else can either. honestly, how do u get prsuaded by sum1 that rytes lyk dis ?

Side: Yes, it is getting annoying
2 points

It depends of course

If Th3y RITE lykE Th1s

then by all means vote it down

but teh innocent spelling mistakes are fine

Side: Yes, it is getting annoying

Some debates are so bad you can barely tell what the point is due to improper spelling and grammar! If you cannot properly communicate your point, you might get a vote down from me. Not if there is a typo or a mistake or too (not to or two). I am talking when every other word has an error in it! I am sorry, but I think that proper communication is an important aspect of a good debate!

Side: Yes, it is getting annoying

I favor your argument but stand by my own. It is quite annoying and it is a form of laziness when this site has its own spell checker and others such as IESpell are available to all without charge. I cannot. however, in all good conscience vote down a debate post because of it. I would rather bring it to their attention in a private message.

Side: Yes, it is getting annoying
sparsely(496) Disputed
0 points

If you want the numbers (or the entire site for that matter) to accurately reflect the opinion of the majority, use your words to favor an argument, as "favoring" here adds to the aggregate debate count. Perhaps it's something which should be addressed in the Townhall, but I hope you see my point. With the system working in its current fashion, it is best to downvote an argument you disagree with, regardless of whether they make a valid rebuttal or not. I dunno, maybe (tagged) downvotes should carry more weight. Regardless, this isn't the place to have this discussion, I guess, so...

Side: No, content shoudl mater mor
-2 points
1 point

Normally if a person does not have good spelling and grammar they do not usually have good content to support their arguments. Content should matter in order to logically support your argument but if you have a tool that allows you to check spelling there is really in my opinion no words that should be spelled wrong.

Side: Yes, it is getting annoying
1 point

I really enjoy reading someone who know how to spell and I pay more attention to him/her than the one who can have a bad spelling even if he/she has a good argument.

Side: Yes, it is getting annoying
1 point

Yes.

1. There's a built in spell check. Learn to use it.

Side: Ignorance is no excuse
1 point

I don't mind typos. But I can't stand when people try to be serious and "typ lyk dis" (type like this). That cannot be taken seriously! Get some Hooked on Phonics, damnit!

Side: Yes, it is getting annoying
1 point

Yes it is. Words incorrectly spell can have different meanings. How can you be a good debater and cannot spell? Words misspelled can sound different.

Side: Yes, it is getting annoying
1 point

yes i relly think that if a persin cant spell rite that they shuldnt get alot of credit for thier coment.

Side: Yes, it is getting annoying

It depends on your goal. If you think it will help the shlep, then do it. If it makes you feel better, do it. Otherwise just move on. I mean, why bother? Life is short and time is valuable.

Side: Yes, it is getting annoying
0 points

Yus! Hoo cud stannd al da wordz thatz spellded rong on tihs diebait websiiit?

Side: Yes, it is getting annoying
4 points

While it is annoying I think the context of the post is more important. It would be nice however if people could take more time into creating logical and readable sentences. While English grammar can be difficult for non-native English speakers, spelling should be no problem because of the the incorporated spell check on CD and thus I feel that spelling incorrectly anything other than names or capitalization is just lazy. Nonetheless, I never down vote a debate because of spelling or grammatical errors for it is what they say that is most important.

Side: No, content shoudl mater mor

I oppose, very strongly, voting down a debate because of words that are incorrectly spelled. It is annoying, I know, and sometimes very difficult to make out what the person means to say. I also oppose voting down an argument because you don't happen to AGREE with the other side. That is pure and utter nonsense. It stands to reason that there will be opposing views...this IS a DEBATE SITE. I believe a post should be voted down if it adds nothing at all to the debate such as silly or serious comments. If your argument has substance it should NOT be voted down. I wish CD would issue the reasons for down voting and make it clear to people what the rules are. The same with up voting. Those votes count for a person's overall efficiency as a debater...it's not a popularity contest!

Side: Make up and down voting clear to all
pvtNobody(642) Disputed
1 point

How can one's argument be persuasive if there is a misspelling in every sentence? I agree that for one or two misspelled words a down vote is out of line. But if there are serious misspellings that obstruct the meaning of the argument I think that a down vote is appropriate.

And I most certainly agree that we need a comprehensive set of guidelines for voting behavior.

Side: Yes, it is getting annoying
1 point

agreed!

"CD would issue the reasons for down voting and make it clear to people what the rules are."

although i am guilty of down and up voting things just for if i agree or not, i will try to stop

Side: No, content shoudl mater mor
1 point

Voting on an argument because you disagree/agree with it is not a problem. That's a legitimate use of the voting system, as it offsets the aggregate total of votes in a specific debate. Having said that, I'll say this: one should not downvote an argument if they have no rebuttal to said argument, or haven't already posted an argument they feel rebuts the argument they're downvoting.

Side: No, content shoudl mater mor
-1 points

I don't think I should get voted down just because I don't add anything to a debate. That's just plain mean and it hurts my feelings ;)

I'm gonna get voted down, ain't I?

Side: Yes, it is getting annoying
sparsely(496) Disputed
1 point

you're a prophet indeed!

Side: No, content shoudl mater mor

Go into your moderator panel and correct the typos on this sides view...it should read...should matter more! Or was that a point you were making about spelling?

Side: No, content shoudl mater mor
1 point

The original post was being smart but I could understand what the line said. Personally I say live and let live. If you have a problem with spelling when you read something, click the back button and move to another post. Its that simple. We have enough problems with the morality police without having to live with the spelling police too.

Side: No, content shoudl mater mor
1 point

No. the context is more important. noone is seeing what you write. ONLY YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: No, content shoudl mater mor

I try exceptionally hard to write perfectly, but sometimes a mistake just slips. Downvoting should be reserved for bad arguments.

Side: No, content shoudl mater mor
0 points

Pointing out spelling errors doesn't make your argument stronger, and an argument containing spelling errors isn't weakened by them.

This is childish behaviour and has nothing to do with actual debate.

Reel in your ADD/anal-retentiveness and pay attention to what they're saying.

And don't give me that "I can barely understand it" crap.

Sudteis have sowhn taht we olny raed the frist and lsat leettrs in msot cnotetxs.

Supporting Evidence: languagehat (www.languagehat.com)
Side: No, content shoudl mater mor
pvtNobody(642) Disputed
3 points

If you were to read a newspaper article with a typo in ever sentence would you consider it good writing? If you were reading an essay that was meant to persuade you to vote for a candidate but all four hundred words of it were printed in all capital letters, would that bother you?

Perhaps I am anal-retentive but it most certainly would bother me. The point of debate is to create well thought our and structured arguments that will convince one's opponent that they are wrong and that you are right. The best course of action to achieve this goal is to create complete thoughts and communicate properly.

By the way, using that study doesn't support your argument at all. If spelling was truly unimportant, we never would have bothered to invent proper spellings to start with. When a word is jumbled the human mind attempts to un-jumble the words such that the letters match a word that we already know. We need something to base this process off, which is why having the first letter in the proper position is necessary. By leaving multiple spelling errors you're only distracting your reader from your central point.

Side: Yes, it is getting annoying
sparsely(496) Disputed
0 points

"Perhaps I am anal-retentive but it most certainly would bother me. The point of debate is to create well thought our"

Well thought our what? I'm sorry, I can't understand what you're saying. But it's okay I'll just vote you down because you can't make any sense. Thanks for playing.

Side: No, content shoudl mater mor
kirstie1126(480) Disputed
2 points

This is only the case for native English readers. For those who might not know English as well, poor spelling and grammar makes things more difficult to understand.

It is a matter of respect to those reading your debate to take the time to make sure you are spelling things correctly. Again, a typo or two is one thing...

Why should I find laziness acceptable? Why does that make me someone with ADD or anal retentive? Having standards is some thing that each society has.

Side: Yes, it is getting annoying
sparsely(496) Disputed
1 point

Regardless, this is still no reason to discount an argument in a debate.

Imagine listening to a real debate. Would you completely ignore the arguments a person is making because they stumble over their words or stutter? No, that would be silly. (as in ZOMG that guy can't talk, FAIL!)

Side: No, content shoudl mater mor
ClownSoup(7) Disputed
2 points

I agree! Just because someone is throwing food whilst debating or hurling expletives, that has nothing to do with the actual debate. We should dodge the food, ignore the insults and pay attention to what they're saying.

Side: Ignorance is no excuse
0 points

To vote down an argument because of spelling is just wrong. The content of the argument is more important that thy way it's spelled. I can admit that I make mistakes when I'm typing so I don't let it bother me all too much. But some mistakes are just awful and it can get annoying. Look at the argument and if you can read it then it's fine. If you can't I would say vote it down. It really depends on how it's written. Just don't vote down because your OCD.

Side: No, content shoudl mater mor
-1 points

OK it may take a little time to figure out what someone is saying who cant spell. Doses that mean if everything is spelt correctly it is automaticaly understood. I cant spell and I think a lost of people are just to snobbish abaout it. I love being able to tex people because ther are no snobby rules

Side: No, content shoudl mater mor
-1 points

it is also a matter of respect to take the time to realise that the person who cant spell may woop your ase in cards. Would you therefor deny them a game as you no your not verry good at cards

Side: No, content shoudl mater mor
-2 points
ClownSoup(7) Disputed
2 points

How many times have you neglected to 'spell check' your bank account?

If failure to properly spell carried the same penalty as failing to carry a 1, people would place more consideration on their written conversations.

Side: Ignorance is no excuse
pvtNobody(642) Disputed
1 point

What you're saying is that you're too lazy to take thirty seconds (or less) to either a) click a button or b) click a word with a squiggly line underneath it in order to make your message readable and convincing. Sorry, I'm not buying it. The spell checker on CD is powerful enough that it managed to fix most of the errors in the last paragraph of your debate in thirty seconds. As for the three possibilities, if you actually knew how to use a word then you aught to be able to recognize it immediately even if you can't spell it.

Side: Ignorance is no excuse