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Impossible. Of Course.
Debate Score:30
Arguments:24
Total Votes:33
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Is it possible for a sexual orientation to be thrust onto somone?

a straight person is molested by someone of the same sex as them Or views homosexual porn -aCCIDENT. Is is it possible for this person to become more susceptible to homosexuality/bisexuality and so become a homosexua against their will?

Or rather Someone straight as an arrow views porn - accident. or is molested, Is it possible for this person to become perverted as a result of this persons unwanted interference?

Impossible.

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Of Course.

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You may as well have said "Thrust INTO them" LOL

Of cousre not, these back alley buttslammers were sucked into it LOL

Side: Impossible.
1 point

I doubt that sexual desire will come out of an incident like molestation - more likely it'll result in trauma. There are people who enjoy bondage fantasies or rape fantasies, but the keyword is that what they enjoy is fantasy, not the real thing.

I think it's certainly possible for people to discover a new way of expressing their sexuality by accidentally finding porn. But in such cases I think it'd be more accurate to say that they have always been open to that sexual orientation, they just never realised it until then.

Side: Impossible.
1 point

shoot, i forgot to explain it properly. I did not say enjoy it, as that would not be rape as they had been giving consent. But if he was molested, liked the feeling and everything- is it possible for this person to become a Full-Blown homosexual?are you saying there is some gay in everyone? Or

if a straight person, sees gay porn are something and becomes gay because of the images forced into his mind ( He saw it, so it - the image goes directly to his/brain).

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ricedaragh(2498) Disputed
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But if he was molested, liked the feeling and everything- is it possible for this person to become a Full-Blown homosexual?are you saying there is some gay in everyone?

If the person liked the feeling it probably means that they are already of that persuasion.

Side: Impossible.
2 points

I do think that sexual orientation is more a spectrum than discrete choices. Probably a lot of people are bisexual and don't know it, because they've never experimented.

But whether you're straight/gai/bi is a matter of likes and dislikes. Short of using techniques like brainwashing or hypnotic suggestion, I don't see how you can make someone gay by showing them gay porn, anymore than you can make someone like jazz music by playing jazz to them. If they like what they hear, it's because they were the kind of person who would like jazz anyway, but simply has never heard it and didn't know it was good. Along the same lines, if you show someone gay porn and they like it, chances are they already were gay or bi, but just didn't know it until then.

Side: Impossible.
Omniscience(2) Disputed
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Actually, it has been proven that some sexual desires have been linked to a mental complex they developed during some point in their life, from a traumatic experience, such as molestation. Also many people's sexual orientation can be effected by their environment, if it is socially accepted to be straight, they have a higher chance of being straight, same thing works with homosexual or bisexual. It's simiple social ethics and influences.

Side: Of course.
ricedaragh(2498) Disputed
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Actually, it has been proven that some sexual desires have been linked to a mental complex they developed during some point in their life, from a traumatic experience, such as molestation.

Indeed, but these are fetishes. A lot of sexual fetishes don't actually include the act of sex or other ways of producing orgasm. Homosexuality is not a particular niche kink, it is the possession of a brain similar to that of the opposite sex, to widely varying degrees, from bi-sexual all the way to those in need of gender reassignment surgery.

Also many people's sexual orientation can be effected by their environment, if it is socially accepted to be straight, they have a higher chance of being straight, same thing works with homosexual or bisexual. It's simiple social ethics and influences.

Any evidence to back this up? I'd like to point out the fact that men from previous generations that were homosexuals, because of societal mores hid their homosexuality to the point of having wives and children whom they ultimately hurt when they come out.

Natural biological urges are there to fulfill the natural need to reproduce and a society no matter how bigoted will always have heterosexual behavior considered as the "norm" societal prejudices on homosexuality exist but do not for heterosexuality, if you read the posts I put up on another argument on this page you'll see actual evidence that firstly a gay brain is that of the opposite sex and secondly that children raised by same sex parents do not turn out to be gay as a rule. They fall into the exact same brackets of orientation as other children. This is an example of people growing up under the influence of homosexuality rather than heterosexuality. A different set of "ethics and influences" as you state, actually has no effect and ultimately leads to more tolerant people.

Side: Impossible.
Peekaboo(704) Disputed
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Hum, that's not something I've heard of before.

As for your second point, I don't think it's the case that people are socially influenced to being straight or gay, though people certainly do get influenced into thinking that they're one or the other. At a time when homosexuality was not acceptable, a lot of people who were gay or bi didn't realise it and wouldn't even imagine that possibility. This doesn't mean that society influenced gay/bi people to become straight; it just means that society discouraged and suppressed their gay tendencies.

Side: Impossible.

I don't think it can be thrust onto someone. I think that if something were to happen to someone that made them change their orientation well I think that they were that way and they just hadn't come to terms with it yet.

Side: Impossible.

A person is born Straight or a person is born Gay, so, it is impossible for a sexual orientation to be forced on someone.

Side: Impossible.
0 points

Why does this seem familiar? I just posted some links in the previous dispute I made in the other debate we were in. I'll put some up here as well.

http://people.virginia.edu/~cjp/articles/tp07.pdf.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1129091/

Side: Impossible.
1 point

It is utterly ridiculous that molestation would change someone's sexual orientation. It would likely scar them for life.

HOWEVER ignoring your argument above, and focusing on the title of this debate I have a different conclusion. YOU can change someone's sexual orientation (On the outside) through making them afraid of being punished (heavily) for it. This is one of the reasons people find it difficult to come out, out of fear of being punished in one form or another.

With this conclusion I state that you could change someone's external feelings with torture/ making them really afraid of crossing you wrong. It would lead to self-hate, extreme depression, and suicidal emotions yes, but it would work.

However it is unlikely to change their true selves.

Saluton, Cxu oni scribas Esperante?

Side: Of course.
1 point

I agree with pretty much every statement you made.

Thank you for your contribution.

Side: Of course.

I guess it may be possible to have homosexuality rammed up your ass ;)

Side: Of course.
1 point

You're hilarious lol I wont you get under my skin lol.........

Side: Of course.

Oh well...., I tried ; )

Side: Of course.
1 point

Seeing how there is no sexual orientation gene, then it must be a learned or sought out choice. Unless someone can prove a genetic disposition to being gay, then you have to consider it a choice. If not then you have nothing but assumptions.

Side: Of course.
1 point

This leads me to the conclusion, from ALL of your arguments to believe that "homosexual genes" are all in your minds. It is impossible. Many of you allowed this lie to get into your brain as I did.You guys are only accountable for what you know.

And I know God did not create ANYTHING Gay.

Homosexuality is a lie. Homo means Gay-Same.People are gay for different reasons.

Side: manyl lies but One truth