Is it sexist for Muslim men to force their wives to wear a burka?
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No, their women like it
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The weird situation in the Arab world is a perfect example of backwards thinking, and the effect it has on people. Firstly for some reason or another, the philosophy and perspective of the countries in the Arab world haven't changed much. Now, I'd blame it on their religion, but since other cultures have out-grown some of the strange things in their religion, I can't totally fault it. Secondly, they've always treated their women like that, and there's never been enough of women over there with the drive to stop it. Because you get rocks thrown at you. And you get shot. It is sexist. It's wrong for them to be doing that, but they don't think it is because it's always been their approach. It's built into their culture which doesn't want to change. There are going to be some more problems the more the rest of the world progresses, in my opinion. Side: yes
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Is it sexist for Muslim men to force their wives to wear a burka? YES IT IS . According to one Brittish muslim woman : 'The veil is a tool of oppression used to alienate and control women under the guise of religious freedom' and it should be banned." 'Nowhere in the Koran does it state that a woman's face and body must be covered in a layer of heavy black cloth' Side: yes
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The keyword in this argument is "force." Men and women, speaking strictly in correlation with the way I see it, are equal. Men and women have different physical traits, their voices are different, sure. However, at the end of the day, they both share one common quality, and that is that they're both human. Why should one gender have the right to dominate, instruct, and control the other? What gives them the right? Until that is thoroughly, and reasonably justified, it stands that men and women are equal and neither sex is more superior than the other in terms of social equality. If a woman wants to wear a burka, that is her right. On that same token, she also has just as much a right to decide not to wear a burka. Period. Side: yes
it is sexist from a modern not necessary liberal point of view and ultimately it is, meaning that the tradition holds form through the religion which clearly states it believes men to be superior to women (this applies to Christianity as well). i do not think the men we would refer to as sexist comprehend the notion, and i do believe that they mostly do it to gain the highest levels of respect for their women and out of an earnest desire to get all they care about to heaven. NOT ALL MUSLIM MEN FORCE THEIR WIVES TO WEAR BURKAS Side: Yes and No
it is very sexiest because they should be able to wear whatever they want. they also should be able to show their whole face to the public without getting beaten for it. They have no rights whatsoever they cant do a dang thing if their husband doesnt know about it they caint do a DANG thing about it!!! if they were to show "embarass"..or something the family thinks is embarrassing to the family then that person will be kicked out of the family or killed. Side: yes
Ah, but what if, in that culture or religion, not wearing a burka is tantamount to running around completely nude? Would it still be okay then? Or would you propose to force Muslim's to accept that it is not the same as running around nude? I'm just playing the Devil's advocate. I actually would hate to live in culture that was so rigid with it's women. But it's not my culture, so can I really say? Side: No, their women like it
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I spoke to a Muslim man about this only last week. His reply was that it was so men didn't get inflamed with lust and try to rape women. Which came down to the question of self control. Muslim men seem to feel they lack it. They don't understand how anyone could be in the presence of a woman and not want to force themselves upon her. Which then speaks to the morality of such a religion. I see Muslim women here in QLD and I am so sad for them, the heat and the humidity has to be hell on them, all wrapped up under that black cloth. If they're wearing it out of choice, that's fine, but if they've been forced into it by men, then it's sexist. Side: yes
this is such a stupid thing to talk about because no muslim guy forces his wife to wear burqa she chooses to because he wouldnt have married her if she wouldnt wear it , a muslim guy doesnt try to change nothing about his wife becuase he will love her just the way she is he will try to convince her to wear but he will never force i dont know where you people get that from because if a girl is forced to marry a guy he could care less about what she wears and yes there such things as arranged marriages but muslim man arent that cruel to force their wife for anything. Side: Yes
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I don't see how the title and the link match. Maybe you could clarify? If a muslim man forces his wife to wear a burka or traditionaly clothing but he himself wears non-traditional clothing, he is being sexist. IF however he makes sure he himself is complying to his traditions and makes it so that she does so too, it isn't sexism. You may disagree with it, but it is not sexism. Most women tend to wear burkas because they want to or because of family pressure. You cannot call this sexism or even wrong just because we don't agree with it or understand it. If the family pressures her to get good grades in school and go to university would you be calling that sexism too? Our misunderstanding of their society leads us to the words sexism rather than ultra-conservative/right wing. Side: No, their women like it
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I disagree because I still believe in individualism even in light of marriage. ie. It would not be sexist for the woman to decide to wear a burka because she is conservative. It is sexist if she is forced based on her gender. As it would be if she forced him based on his gender, but that is less likely. You assume because someone is something they choose to be something. The keyword in the debate description though is force Side: yes
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The keyword in the debate description though is force Correct. The crux of the problem lies in defining the word force. A Muslim woman would say that it is her choice to wear a burka. But..., and this is a big but, if she refuses to wear the burka she is mercifully killed...., wait...., is it a mercy killing or an honor killing.... Whose honor? Damn wacky jihadist sadists. Side: yes
well it is a deeply rooted tradition that there people have adheared to for centuries. 100 years ago it would not have called sexist becuase it was just the way th8ngs were. how has this changed? well i guess in this new world of equality and freedom anything that differs between male/female is viewed as sexist. Side: No, their women like it
First of all this question is slanted towards our American ideology. "No, their women like it" being the only "no" option is definitely a slant because one may not believe it to be sexist, but to say that their women like it is an assumption that most of us are unqualified to make and can make one feel that a person choosing this answer is bigoted or racist. I question if this isn't a liberally created argument as liberals excel at slanting things to make those that disagree with them sound bigoted and close-minded. MY ANSWER: No because it is religious and/or cultural. Under Religion you do as is right in God's eyes so that your concise will be pure in His sight. Apostolic women cover their head for this very reason. Under Culture, it's accepted as a differentiation between men and women and is accepted in this way. As far the "forcing" of their women to wear them may or may not be sexist depending on the person. In that culture it is accepted that men, especially husbands have the final say. And due to this constraint, the husband is also held responsible, sometimes not when it actually counts though, to lead the family. If it is considered shameful for a woman not to wear a burka, then for a woman to refuse it may not just affect her, but may also affect her husband's job, the food on their children's table, and the opportunity of their children to succeed as it would be more difficult in some cultures for children of mothers that are considered amoral or indecent. Questions of the children's legitimacy could end up plaguing the family if it is considered bad enough. In short, it does not necessarily mean the Husband is sexist or that even the community is, but it would definitely mean that whatever the justification for it is sexist. Whether the justification be their religion, culture, or simple law the reason that justifies a husband's authority to force this upon his wife is what is sexist. That sexist justification needs to be challenged if there will be more freedom in that area. No matter where we are from we all attempt to live day to day. Generally in mankind, we all attempt to make better for our children and loved ones and do not want to see ourselves or those we care about suffer or live worse lives than our own. And sometimes we follow minor unjust laws or traditions as the one asked about above regardless of whether we agree with them for the sake of peace and the betterment of our families. Side: Yes and No
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Yes and No.In one aspect the women chose that religion knowing the rules which include wearing this,it was teh decision.They did not have to marry a musliim man.On the other hand if the Quran does not force them then maybe but isnt this something they should have discussed with there spouse before marriage? Side: Yes and No
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For someone on the outside looking in, of course it seems sexist but that's because you're ignorant to the reason of why women should wear the burka. & I don't mean to offend anyone by saying that's ignorant. I'm sure if I wasn't a Muslim woman myself, I would think the same exact thing. The way I see it, when a man & women get married, the women's beauty is meant for her husband's eyes, no one else's. Why would you want to go out looking all sexy when you already have whoever you want? No man wants other guys checking out his wife while he's standing right beside her. So what exactly is wrong with Muslim men requesting that their wives wear a burka? P.S. In Islam, forcing anyone to do anything is wrong. If a person does something, they should do it because they want to, not because they are being oppressed. Side: No, their women like it
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