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it is apart of us it is not in us
Debate Score:135
Arguments:105
Total Votes:148
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Is killing a part of human nature.

it is apart of us

Side Score: 80
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it is not in us

Side Score: 55
6 points

Sure... that's what I tell all my victims, nothing personal, it's just part of my nature.

Side: it is apart of us
5 points

It as always been apart of are nature to kill. People kill other people it been happening ever since we were born on this earth.

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5 points

-Flips history book open...-

it does seem to look this way o.O...

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4 points

Yes, i think it is, because animals kill each other and other animals for food, and we did evolve from animals. But i still think it is wrong and you shouldn't kill people or animals as much as possible.

Side: it is apart of us

If we aren't supposed to kill, how are we supposed to get protein? I dislike the idea of waiting for an old and sick cow to drop dead so I can eat that nutritious skin and muscle.

Side: it is apart of us
2 points

It is. We kill ants, sheep, goats, pigs, cows, snakes, lizards, tigers, other wild and domesticated animals. And then we also 'kill' plants and forests to make way, build housing areas, new cities and "zoos". We kill everything except each other. Oh no, wait... We also kill babies when they are still in the womb; kill babies based on their gender and sacrifice them to Gods. We kill each other in wars or genocides or gender crimes. Not only is killing part of us but so is hypocrisy!

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2 points

Seeing as most humans eat meat and meat is often attained through killing, i would say in the food respect it is completely apart of our nature. However if you mean the killing of another human i would say that we are shaped individually and that there are many events and situations that can push people to murder and kill and these are on a basic level instinctual desires to relieve stress/loss/pain, but what separates us from other animals is our intellect and through use of it we control these instincts and desires and impulses. I think perhaps though if there were no consequences to killing another human then i believe a lot more people would kill whether it be curiosity, revenge or simple blood-lust but the fact that we have laws against it shows that our caring and loving, or if at least mutual respect, nature is greater than our desire to kill, but again this is quite specific to individuals and what has happened to them in their life and lies more on nurture than nature. Since this is killing in general though i will say that to survive and to protect and to feed ourselves killing is undoubtedly apart of our nature.

Side: it is apart of us

Yes but it is something we can rise above.

Side: it is apart of us
1 point

I think it is... its just not part of us fully... its there but not all the way because if it was then we'd all be serial killers... I mean its part of animals instinct is to kill if threatened or for survival but in humans our brain chemistry is complex and I have no idea what I'm saying but yeah idk I hope you guys get what I'm trying to say :x

Side: it is apart of us
Jace(5220) Clarified
1 point

What differentiates serial killers from the average human being has a lot less to do with the capacity for killing (almost all of us have that), but the factors which bring that attribute to the fore (e.g. disassociation, antisocial personality, psychotic break, etc.).

Side: it is apart of us

Yeah, people always find reasons to kill other people. The root? Sin.

Side: it is apart of us
4 points

Human nature isn't that savage. It takes a serial killer years to build up the tolerance to kill with no remorse, and in the process they lose themselves, becoming immoral sociopathic husks.

Even for a person to kill an animal they need to eat to survive comes with a level of guilt the first few times.

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goodmale(1457) Disputed
2 points

Most people would kill. It is like me killing someone just because I need to live or eat. Just like a animal. It is natural for us to kill for a reason. animals don't just kill for no reason. we are like a animal.

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DrawFour(2662) Disputed
2 points

Most people wouldn't kill. The proof being that most people don't kill.

It is natural for us to kill for a reason, I agree, it's unnatural for us to kill for no reason or for unimportant reasons. Most psychologically sound people find it difficult to kill. if it were their nature, it'd be easy.

I also agree animals don't kill for no reason, animals kill to survive. Be it protecting their herd, or for reasons as simple as food, they are furthering their well being, using their nature to do it.

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Jace(5220) Disputed
1 point

You are conflating the capacity for killing with the action of killing. There are few if any human beings who lack the capacity for killing; it is an entirely natural possibility within the range of human behavior, and animal behavior generally.

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DrawFour(2662) Disputed
2 points

I argue that just because we have the capacity to do so, that it is not apart of our nature. Would you say cannibalism is also apart of our nature? Since I'm sure most humans would eat another to survive. Or how about performing acts against our principles? Since most humans would too do that to survive.

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I agree. In fact, for every piece of writing that talks about how difficult it is to kill, and how difficult the aftermath can be, there is another pieces that talks about just how easy it is. Sometimes, the same piece will describe both how easy and difficult it is.

Side: it is apart of us
2 points

Not really. Sociologists have tried and tested that children are born with a sense of equality and unity. Adults are the ones responsible for teaching them how to be cruel.

Throughout history, genocides and persecutions are done out of need to destroy competitors, vengance or simply because they see themselves as superior creatures than their victims.

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goodmale(1457) Disputed
1 point

no it not adults. I don't think so. yes adults tell kids stuff but not all of it is wrong. how did the first humans on the earth know what to do. it was born in to them to kill. if they did not know to kill then how did they survive.

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Centifolia(1318) Disputed
1 point

Instinct.

As social animals, it is embedded in our DNA to promote unity and equality. But due to ignorance, selfishness and greed, it is inevitable to have such a dark history.

All children are born with a kind heart but we learned how to be cruel as we get older

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Jace(5220) Disputed
1 point

Really? Please do furnish us with these purported sociological tests and results.

Even were your claim true, that children may so easily be impressed upon with violent tendencies or capacity is indicative that killing and violence come naturally to human beings.

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Centifolia(1318) Disputed
1 point

Please bear in mind that the act of killing and murder is different from predation.

As for your statement, yes, it is true. The sense of morality is something of nature. But the sense of cruelty is gained through nurture. There are plenty of tests done to prove it.

1. Starting with the "Emotional Feedback" where we are able to feel the emotion that we gave. It is proof that we humans are equipped with the tools to unite each other and form a society.

2. "Self Awareness". Being able to observe our individuality is one thing. But the ability to insert ourselves into the situation of others gave birth to the ability to feel guilt, pity, and sympathy

3. Act of Self Sacrifice. The emotion of Love came in many different forms but all of them has one similarity-placing others above yourself. In a biological sense, this does not make any sense but then you remembered, we are all a single species with similar goals-survival of our race. We were not born to enjoy life, but to die for others

Do not get me wrong, there is a reason why we need to learn how to be cruel. But my point stands. Every human on Earth are born with a good heart

Side: it is not in us

The only thing that is apart of human nature, is the ability to adapt.

Killing is just the result of another adaptation that may happen! No one is born to kill.

The End!!!!!!

Side: it is not in us
goodmale(1457) Disputed
1 point

So animals was not born to kill either. Sometimes we question should we kill this person or not. Or other times we don't even question we just kill.

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Intangible(4933) Disputed
1 point

So animals was not born to kill either.

Several species of herbivores are naturally friendly creatures.

Sometimes we question should we kill this person or not. Or other times we don't even question we just kill.

You don't know the percentage of the human species that actually have that mentality. It needs to be a high percentage for your argument to hold.

Side: it is not in us
Intangible(4933) Clarified
-1 points

Good for you.

Side: it is apart of us

It's a product of letting Satan into your lives.

Side: it is not in us
goodmale(1457) Disputed
1 point

there is no god in this so please leave. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: it is apart of us
Jace(5220) Clarified
1 point

Ah, yes, that explains the Inquisition!

Side: it is apart of us
1 point

I just noticed that "Side: it is not in us" has a persistent value (I cannot leave it blank). Assume it to be blank as I disagree with the basis which form the argument sides.

Assuming there is only one "human nature" is not a logical standpoint - at least to draw any sort of valuable conclusion for a question so rich in ambiguity (imo) as this. The factors are many and often complex (environment, trauma, rebellion, religion, extreme circumstances, etc). It's instinctive if it means survival (fear, hunger, etc) so we might call those instances of killing the natural order of evolutionary biology (still ambiguous for my taste). My overall point is the seemingly limitless variety of perspectives existent in our collective minds on this Earth pretty much insists that circumstances so extreme will happen regularly (based more or less on the law of large numbers/averages). Harm reduction is the key.

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