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Disciplinary Preventative
Debate Score:5
Arguments:6
Total Votes:5
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 Disciplinary (3)
 
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Is law more successful when disciplinary or preventative?

Disciplinary

Side Score: 3
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Preventative

Side Score: 2

I hate to say it but discipline does make law more successful. even though i hate the fact that u get tickets(but i cant say i hate jail, jail is a good thing) and stuff like that, it does lessen the crime and it makes people say" ok if i dont want a ticket or go to jail, i have to park right and obey the law".

Side: Disciplinary

If I'm coming across from the view-point of not caring about other people, I must say that disciplinary systems work best.

Think about Hammurabi's "an eye for an eye". While harsh, it most likely detered many criminals because the penalties were to fierce. If you were a carpenter and you built someone's house and that same house collapsed and killed the person you built it for's son, your son was killed.

Side: Disciplinary
1 point

Let's establish a hypothetical. Two men are sitting on a park bench together, one with a shirt reading Law, and the other Citizen. Mr. Citizen is about to eat a raw steak he has been carrying about for several hours on his journey to the bench where he now rests. Mr. Law sees this, and one of three scenarios plays out.

1) Mr. Law says "Hey, don't eat that! It could be rotten!" Mr. Citizen does not listen and attempts to eat the steak. Mr law swiftly takes the steak from him, leaving him upset and confused, even resentful. This is preventative law

2) Mr. Law say nothing and Mr. Citizen eats the steak, is subsequently punched by Mr. Law whilst he says "You shouldn't have done that!", only for Mr. Citizen to die later of syphilis or disentary or what have you it doesn't matter... This is disciplinary law.

3) Mr. Law both warns and injures Mr. Citizen providing, and then Mr. Citizen feels like he's been played by some system just out to protect him. This is both.

It's a lose lose lose really.

Side: Preventative
ThePyg(6738) Disputed
1 point

This really only applies to law that effects personal choices.

However, if the Citizen is about to kill someone, that would be a much different situation.

Laws against murder are both disciplinary and preventative. If someone is about to murder someone, a cop can stop that person. If someone kills someone, a cop can arrest him.

In those cases, the victim may or may not be saved, but the perpetrator will still feel the swift hand of justice, as well as protecting possible future victims.

But laws against eating something undesirable are unjustified, for it makes the assumption that the law is better at knowing what's best for you than you yourself. At times it's possible, but at other times it most likely isn't.

so, ya know, legalize all drugs and shit.

Side: Disciplinary

Law should concentrate on the preventive because those tempted to crime can be helped.

Side: Preventative
wwww(24) Clarified
1 point

preventative and disciplinary are both needed to be effective against most people.

Side: Disciplinary