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Oral sex is sex Oral sex is not sex
Debate Score:230
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Is oral sex considered sex?

Bill Clinton once said, "I did not have sex with that woman!!!" The sex he was talking about was oral sex.  

We all know he at least had oral sex with Monica Lewinsky. He made the statement that oral sex was not really sex.

What do you think?

There are a few posters here who do not think it is sex which I find unbelievable, but not shocking coming from them.  

So I would ask these questions to them and to the community here.

If you think oral sex is not sex....do you care if your wife, husband, significant other was having oral sex with a friend, neighbor, stranger...for fun?

Would you care if its not sex, that your children do it for fun?

And if its not sex then..........could it be done publically?  

 

Oral sex is sex

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Oral sex is not sex

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Oral sex is sex. Which is why they added the word, "sex" right after the "oral" part. See, the original creators wanted it to be very clear that it was sex. ;)

Side: Oral sex is sex
5 points

Can you believe the stupidity of those who think it acutally is not sex?

I am surprised that the two on this board who thinks its not sex won't comment on it. LOL

Side: Oral sex is sex
casper3912(1581) Disputed
2 points

Would you care to explain why one would have to be deficient in mental ability to disagree with your position?

May you go into detail of why the various distinct acts should be labeled under one broad colloquial label when that label is already in use as a name for a subset of aforementioned acts?

Side: Oral sex is not sex
casper3912(1581) Disputed
4 points

What if the name is a misnomer, shouldn't the properties of various sexual acts be examined rather than their mere names?

After all, the question is basically asking if oral sex is a misnomer, and your reply just basically states that it isn't a misnomer because its a name...

Side: Oral sex is not sex

Sex is whatever we define it to be and we have defined it to include oral sex.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_sex

Q.E.D.

;)

Side: Oral sex is not sex
2 points

do I have to withhold FICA taxes for a hand job?

Side: Oral sex is not sex

Yeah..., do that..., and tell me how that worked out for you ;)

Side: Oral sex is not sex
Sitara(11082) Disputed
1 point

I disagree cutie. Oral sex is not sex. ;)

Side: Oral sex is not sex

So if someone shoves their member in your mouth, forcefully, it is NOT rape? ;)

Side: Oral sex is not sex
1 point

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Side: Oral sex is sex
5 points

Bill Clinton once said, "I did not have sex with that woman!!!" The sex he was talking about was oral sex.

We all know he at least had oral sex with Monica Lewinsky. He made the statement that oral sex was not really sex.

What do you think?

I'm still wondering why David Vitter was wearing a diaper and how much his hooker cost. Seriously, why is it when a Dem has sex the right cries about it for decades, when a Rep does it they re-elect them?

There are a few posters here who do not think it is sex which I find unbelievable, but not shocking coming from them.

Everything is unbelievable to you it seems, you have a very narrow world perspective.

So I would ask these questions to them and to the community here.

If you think oral sex is not sex....do you care if your wife, husband, significant other was having oral sex with a friend, neighbor, stranger...for fun?

I would, but what I care about isn't other people's business. Would you care if I didn't care weirdo? Why are you so interested in what others are doing? Are you some kind of voyeur pervert?

Would you care if its not sex, that your children do it for fun?

If they're old enough to know what sex is, are doing it with others their age and not adults, and use protection, than actually no, I'm all for it. It's natural human behavior.

And if its not sex then..........could it be done publicly?

Shitting isn't sex, that doesn't mean it should be done publicly. You are not very good at analogy.

But no whether it is sex or not it shouldn't be done publicly, unless its some public designated place like a swinger's club.

All that said and ignoring that you are a moron.

Yeah, oral sex is 1 of many forms of sex.

Side: Oral sex is sex
2 points

Would you care to go into detail more?

If someone tells you they have had sex with someone, in everyday language that means vaginal or perhaps anal intercourse.

If they explained to you that they only had oral, and not sex in general you probably would have to retract your original thoughts on what their first sentence meant to some degree. (Such as the possibility of children, culture, personality, type of relationship among them,etc) Doesn't this mean that classifying oral sex under the general umbrella of sex creates a misnomer?

I can understand considering oral as a form of sex for health questionnaires(like what you fill out when you donate blood), similarly to how baldness may be considered a hair type for a questionnaire on hair types. Its simply convenient.

Side: Oral sex is not sex
Noxstant(176) Disputed
3 points

Everyday language does not equate to the scientific standard of definitions.

Biologically, since there is more to sexual pleasure than genitalia, one can be sexually stimulated by acts involving only the genitalia of one person or no genitalia at all. The acts are indeed sexual by nature.

Side: Oral sex is not sex
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
3 points

1. I'm a grown ass man with grown ass friends. They don't say "I had sex" with so and so, they say "I fucked" so and so or "I got head but she didn't give it up."

2 Who fucking cares?

3. This is retarded and my entire argument was pointing out how retarded it is.

Doesn't this mean that classifying oral sex under the general umbrella of sex creates a misnomer?

Fair enough. Sex means jizz.

similarly to how baldness may be considered a hair type for a questionnaire on hair types. Its simply convenient.

Sure. Quit calling zero a number and I'm down.

edit rereading this it sounds pissed, I'm actually laughing, I think it's funny but it's lost in translation. Everything's good.

Side: Oral sex is sex
2 points

Edit: Huh? I didn't even type this on this post. Confused?

Side: Oral sex is sex
churchmouse(328) Disputed
2 points

I brought up Clinton because he made the phrase a joke.

Democratic perverts are elected all the time.

Unbeleivable to me? For someone to not classify oral sex sex to me is unbelievable, sorry. It is penetration or stimulation of a body part. It causes sexual ORGANSMS. Now if that is not sex........then I don't know what is.

Well I don't care what anyone else does skippy....but this is a DEBATE SITE AND WE ARE DEBATING BASED ON OUR OPINIONS. So people share thoughts and ideas. Or were you not aware of that?

If you say oral sex is not sex.....why would you care if the neighbor guy brought your significant other to orgasm through oral sex?

This is not a discussion about if its right or wrong or whether its natural or not. It is about classifying it.

A moron is someone who thinks oral sex is not sex.

Do you always have to call people names to get your point across? Do you do this in person to people you come in contact with?

Side: Oral sex is not sex
casper3912(1581) Disputed
4 points

were you attempting a joke?

What is the Relevancy of political party of so called perverts elected representatives to the debate question?

Is mutual masturbation, or just masturbation sex? By the definition you gave they would be.

We are not debating based on our opinions, or at least we shouldn't. Our personal opinions should be well supported, but our debates and arguments should be based on empirically supported premises and logic; else it isn't really debating is it?

Perhaps the same reason one would care if a significant other kissed the neighbor?

:) If A then B, B, thus A is a logical fallacy. Your second to last sentence is basically such a fallacy, unless I'm reading too much in.

Doesn't your last sentence apply to your next to last?

Side: Oral sex is sex
5 points

it is sex! look at what its called people.. oral SEX! i mean duh its sex

Side: Oral sex is sex
1 point

how much blowing is involved in a blow job? - duh...

Side: Oral sex is not sex
Skaruts(195) Disputed
1 point

None that I know of. It usualy involves sucking instead.

Side: Oral sex is sex
Skaruts(195) Disputed
1 point

Sorry double posted.

Side: Oral sex is sex
3 points

If it quacks like a duck...

Side: Oral sex is sex

If it squirts like a .... ;)

Side: Oral sex is sex
2 points

Ummmm, okay.... I just got notification of your reply, 395 days later.

Side: Oral sex is sex
1 point

Bad boy! ;)

Side: Oral sex is sex
3 points

By the straight biological definition (Sexual activity, including specifically sexual intercourse), oral sex is definitely sex. While sexual intercourse may be the primary method of having sex, it is not the only one. "Sexual activity" is a very broad term. Since there is more to sex, than genitalia (i.e. our brains play a large role as well), the definition of sex cannot be legitimately restricted to genitalia on genitalia action. People can engage in sexual activity using only one pair of genitalia or none at all.

Side: Oral sex is sex
3 points

Sexual activity is a broad term and like you said there is way more to sex than just genitalia. Good post noxstant.

Side: Oral sex is sex
2 points

It is very much so, thank you. You need more than genitalia to enjoy sexual activities. I think the big hangup in the opposition is the inability to understand that the definition of sex does not just include sexual intercourse, which even that is disputable as to if oral sex is included.

Side: Oral sex is sex
casper3912(1581) Disputed
2 points

Surly there is a distinction between sexual activity and sex though?

What exactly is the straight biological definition of sex?

Side: Oral sex is not sex
Noxstant(176) Disputed
2 points

No, since sex is engaging in sexual activity. Sexual intercourse (which includes vaginal sex) is underneath that category.

The way I wrote biological was misleading Everything in this discuss deals with biology. But this is the definition I am basing my argument off of : Noun: (chiefly with reference to people) Sexual activity, including specifically sexual intercourse

Side: Oral sex is sex
3 points

It is oral intercourse, actually, as the tongue penetrates instead of the penis. It is definitely sex.

Side: Oral sex is sex
2 points

Of course it is...it is absurd that anyone would think it is anything different. I still can't believe it.

Side: Oral sex is sex
2 points

oral sex is sex plain and simple every argument i have seen for the opposition refers to oral sex as sex end of story i am sorry but you have defeated your own argument in my mind

Side: Oral sex is sex
2 points

WEll finally someone with a brain.....LOL

Oral sex is sex epifanio..........you are right.

Side: Oral sex is sex

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_sex

"Oral sex is SEXUAL ACTIVITY involving the stimulation of the genitalia of a sex partner by the use of the mouth, tongue, teeth or throat. Cunnilingus refers to oral sex performed on females while fellatio and irrumatio refer to oral sex performed on males. Anilingus refers to oral stimulation of a person's anus. Oral stimulation of other parts of the body (as in kissing and licking) is usually not considered oral sex."

While one can not become pregnant by oral sex, one can get STD's from it.

http://www.scarleteen.com/article/advice/oral_sex_manual_sex_anal_sex_whats_it_all_mean_jellybean

http://aids.about.com/cs/safesex/a/oralsex.htm

All website I found considered it to be sex and just as risky as sexual intercourse.

ORAL SEX IS A SEXUAL BEHAVIOR.

Side: Oral sex is sex
casper3912(1581) Disputed
2 points

Is sexual activity sex?

The Wikipedia article is actually pretty neutral on whether it is or isn't sex.

Is all sexual behavior sex?

For example, is a stripper having sex every-time she takes off a piece of clothing?

Side: Oral sex is not sex
catticus90(360) Disputed
1 point

I didn't dispute it wasn't a sexual behavior. I just don't agree that it's full blown sex. Playing with nipples is sexual activity. It doesn't make it sex.

Side: Oral sex is not sex
churchmouse(328) Disputed
2 points

LMAO I mean you are friking hilarious....OMgosh.

Its not sex, but it is, but it isnt....but well its sexual behavior...wait though its not......Its well sexual activity......no its activity...not sex.......Oh wait...I mean its not full blown sex. LMAO

Do you read what you post?

Side: Oral sex is sex
1 point

yes cause its like sex but different in a way .It really depends.

Side: Oral sex is sex
1 point

Oral sex is called oral sex for some reason. I don't see any grounds for discussion.

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oral sex | noun

- sexual contact between the mouth and the genitals or anus; fellatio, cunnilingus, or anilingus.

Side: Oral sex is sex
1 point

Merriam Webster's Dictionary has two definitions for that word, the second definition being: "Sexual activity or behavior".

Also, if you are truly stupid enough to believe that oral sex isn't considered sex, just wait until you are standing before God and try explaining that to him.

Side: Oral sex is sex
Sitara(11082) Disputed
1 point

There is that Christian love that we all know and love. Sir, you are making it very hard to respect you. I am holding back because you served your country and I am grateful, but you are making me mad.

Side: Oral sex is not sex

I consider oral sex to be sex; there is far more to sex than just intercourse, and I feel rather sorry for anyone who considers intercourse to be all there is to sex!

Side: Oral sex is sex
1 point

Of course it is Sex. Any form of genitalia stimulation is Sex

Side: Oral sex is sex
5 points

It is a sexual act, but it is not sexual intercourse. Oral sex stimulates us and ends up in the same general category due to decency and the emotions it is generated by. However it cannot lead to reproduction by itself. So it misses one of the dominant criteria for sex.

Side: Oral sex is not sex

True, the definition of sex is vaginal intercourse, that is the essence of reproduction, so oral sex is merely a stimulus.

Side: Oral sex is not sex
navydave(13) Disputed
1 point

I am not sure which dictionary you are using to define the word "sex", but the Merriam Webster Dictionary has two definitions for that word, the second definition being: "Sexual activity or behavior".

Side: Oral sex is sex
4 points

It's not sex, it's Oral Sex.

But, it does come down to what context you're trying to refer to.

1. If you mean the act of making love, no, it's not sex. It's considered either foreplay or fooling around.

2. If you mean a broad overview of sexual acts (given that sexual acts are considered sex), then yes, it's sex.

3. If you mean bragging rights (like talking with your buddies about what you did with a girl), then no, it's not sex. It is, however, the next best thing. But you can't tell your friends "dude, I just had sex" and then they're like "which position" and you're like "well, it was a blow-job". They will be all like "bitch, please".

4. 69ing could be considered the closest thing to actual sex since both genitals are being messed with. But the mouth is the medium, so I wouldn't consider it sex.

5. If someone licks someone's asshole, do you consider that sex, as well? Since someone wants to define oral sex as sex, where does it become "not sex"?

Side: Oral sex is not sex
ptosis(243) Disputed
3 points

if it's not sex - then how come when a guy insults another guy he says "cocksucker" or "suck my dick" as a form of calling him a 'bitch'?

This is a old idea and FBI definition of rape. that unless there is a penile penetration into a vaginal area that it's not sex. This narrow view from a male sexist pig is widespread.

I ask people this:

If a broken broom stick is shoved up your ass until you are maimed for life and need a colonoscopy bag - have you been sexually assaulted - or just plain assaulted?

Would you equate a punch in the mouth to cavity penetration with a object?

Supporting Evidence: 'Anal Assault' Officers Acquitted - Found Not Guilty Of Sodomizing (www.weirdnews.aol.com)
Side: Oral sex is sex
ThePyg(6737) Disputed
6 points

clearly you didn't read my post, since I said "it comes down to context". I've pointed out some conditions where it could be considered one or the either.

But in general, I do not see oral sex as the same thing as sex. This doesn't mean that I want sexual assault to refer only to penile penetration of the vagina. please.

Side: Oral sex is not sex
casper3912(1581) Disputed
5 points

Whats the relevancy of your first sentence?

Where the view comes from is irrelevant as well.

Lines are blurry, but for legal purposes clear ones need to be drawn.

The question is more of the type of lines that should be drawn, If a continuum of color should be interpreted for legal purposes as black or white, not one of whether a continuum of color Is actually black or white. To properly answer if someone in such a situation has be sexual assaulted rather than just assaulted(which in such situations they undeniably were) would require a philosophy of sexuality would would be difficult to hold to scrutiny, especially since it may require proof of intent and such.

Side: Oral sex is not sex
4 points

Because oral sex is just one sexual activity one can do. A punch in the mouth is a violent action, it has nothing to do with sexual stimulation. Cavity penetration (without permission) is also is violent, but sexual in nature.

Side: Oral sex is sex
2 points

if it's not sex - then how come when a guy insults another guy he says "cocksucker" or "suck my dick" as a form of calling him a 'bitch'?

and when he calls them wimp, douchebag, or Betty White - does that make those things sex?

If a broken broom stick is shoved up your ass until you are maimed for life and need a colonoscopy bag - have you been sexually assaulted - or just plain assaulted?

it would be sexual assault.

it would not be sex assault.

Side: Oral sex is not sex
Skaruts(195) Disputed
1 point

Then why is it called, as you called it: Oral Sex?

Side: Oral sex is sex
1 point

cuz any word with sex is sex?

is a Sex Toy sex?

phone sex?

a sexagenarian?

Side: Oral sex is not sex
3 points

If you think oral sex is not sex....do you care if your wife, husband, significant other was having oral sex with a friend, neighbor, stranger...for fun?

That's ridiculous, just because it isn't sex doesn't mean it isn't cheating. Kissing isn't sex I'd still be upset if my husband did it with another woman.

Would you care if its not sex, that your children do it for fun?

Yet again you're making vile comments about children having sexual relations. No, it's still oral sex. I don't think it's sex but it's still oral sex and something that a child shouldn't partake in.

And if its not sex then..........could it be done publically?

No, that's like saying because a man masturbating isn't sex it can be public. It's still indecent exposure.

Side: Oral sex is not sex
2 points

Oral sex isn't sex. When I think of sex I think of actually having sexual intercourse. Oral sex is not intercourse. It's just not sex. Done.

Side: Oral sex is not sex
churchmouse(328) Disputed
2 points

So what kind of activity is it then? Would you mind if I had oral communication with your significant other? LOL

Side: Oral sex is sex
1 point

It is a sexual activity

would you mind if someone flirted with or kissed your significant other?

does that make those things sex?

Side: Oral sex is not sex
2 points

it is a sexual act but there is no penetration involved and you cannot conceive a child having oral sex which is the main purpose of sex

Side: Oral sex is not sex

The nature of vaginal and anal sex is vastly different than oral, well they may share many attributes they possess enough differences that oral sex should be in a class of its own. The name doesn't adequately describe the experience; you don't have oral sex then proclaim that you have just had sex(in general) and still maintain accuracy in your words. The word "sex" doesn't refer to oral sex in everyday usage, because other distinct meanings take up the word. In short, the name "oral sex" is a misnomer, because it doesn't fall under the general category of "sex".

Side: Oral sex is not sex

Sex, is strictly penetration of the vaginal canal with a penis. Oral sex is, cunnilingus or penetration with the tongue or in the woman's case sucking a mans cock. If sex is any act that can be performed in public kissing is sex in most middle eastern countries, hell even the U.S. had/has public displays of affection laws, depending on the state.

Side: Oral sex is not sex
1 point

I do not consider oral sex to be sex. They are defined differently. The word 'oral' is my first clue it is not sex. Sex to me means intercourse and in daily word use people refer to intercourse as sex. If I gave someone head I wouldn't say I had sex with them, that would imply I had intercourse. I'd say it was oral or cock sucking or whatever you like to refer to oral sex as.

Side: Oral sex is not sex
1 point

It doesn't fit the commonly accepted idea of what sex is. If you tell people "I had sex", everyone would assume you mean sex as in penile penetration of the vagina.

If you mean something else, you have to specify: "I got a blow-job", "I jerked off", etc. You can use the word "sex" and sex-related terms (like "screw" and "fuck") to describe these non-intercourse actions, but if you want to be understood correctly, you have to explain what actually happened. (The exception is if you're a gay man and you say you had sex - people would assume you mean anal sex because they know your partner doesn't have a vagina.) You wouldn't call oral sex or dildo sex "sex", period.

Side: Oral sex is not sex

You would think if you go through the effort of creating a whole debate about it you would actually get the quote right.

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman..." ref

Side: Oral sex is not sex

I'll try to put it as plainly as possible for what i think people on this side are saying.

Sex: copulation/coitus, vaginal intercourse

Sexual - adds the suffix -ual/-al which adds "of or pertaining to" sex and would include sex but also things pertaining to sex like arousal, orgasm, penetration, etc.

Though I think ThePyg is right that there is some element of context.

Side: Oral sex is not sex
0 points

Virginity is not determined by someone kissing you, not considered on squeezing a girls boobs. Its about getting it, his genitals in hers. That's something that can't be done easily, it means something and the blood broken shows that. You say would u mind if your wife gave oral sex to a friend "cause its not real sex" aha I wouldn't want her to kiss anyone else and that isn't sex so obviously I would mind if it was sex or not. Its passionite which is meant for me.

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0 points

Although it mounts to some sexual pleasure it is not intimate body contact...if French kiss is not considered sex, why oral sex?

Sexual organs are just other body parts and kissing them cannot be any different than kissing any other body parts..intercourse is considered as sex because it is a defined act between 2 bodies for a specific purpose ..

Side: Oral sex is not sex
0 points

Oral sex is not sex, but it is sexual in nature. It also sounds damn fun. ;)

Side: Oral sex is not sex
navydave(13) Disputed
0 points

Oral sex is not sex? Merriam Webster's Dictionary has two definitions for that word, the second definition being: "Sexual activity or behavior". Amazing what you can find when you actually research what you say before you say it.

Side: Oral sex is sex
Sitara(11082) Disputed
0 points

Oral sex is not sexual intercourse. .

Side: Oral sex is not sex