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Debate Score:25
Arguments:16
Total Votes:30
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Is prostitution the ultimate victimless crime?

Note: this is not about whether prostituion should be legalised - that's another debate. However, this debate does in fact lead to the question of whether or not prostituion should be legalised. Therefore, we must come to a consensus regarding this issue (among others) before moving on to legal matters relating to prostitution.

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Side Score: 8
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No

Side Score: 17
2 points

I can tell you... er second hand, that there are scores of women who not only get paid very well to hook, but enjoy the job. Men too. So the couple of people who put forth the idea that all prostitutes are victims, you are wrong. Many of them came from happy homes, many of them were never raped, many of them still see their parents on all the holidays, pay taxes, have families of their own, and are perfectly functional members of society who don't take drugs or steal or participate in any other scandelous activities. They might as well be secretaries some of them, from all you would know of them in their daily lives.

There are victims though who do either feel forced into it, or who actually really are.

The best way to stop this from happening is to legalize it.

If there is a bunny ranch 20 miles away, why on earth would you go to a random hooker who may or may not be undercover, who may or may not have a pimp who is going to cut your throat and take your money?

You legalize it, put rules in place, tax it, etc, then there's no more market for the criminals and they have to go find some other law to break.

Of course there will always be cases of people being victimized, but legalizing it would cut down on that significantly.

Yeah I know it wasn't supposed to be about legalization, but that's basically the whole problem I think, so any explanation requires it be mentioned.

Side: yes
3 points

You say this is not a debate about legalizing prositution, but the thing is that the answer to the question is different depending.

I just qued a documentary on netflix about girls as young as 13 who are being forced into prostitution in New York. Those are victims.

But the girls at the Bunny Ranch are not. So when there is legalized prostitution, there are far less victims. The victims in legalized prostitution would be the girls who are illegal and trafficed(sp?). Those same 13 year old girls would probably still be whored out, because they are not of age, but the pimps taking advantage of them would still want the easy revenue. I bet a young girl fetches a better price and is easier to control than a 20-something.

So no, it's not victimless. The victims are the prostitutes not in business for themselves.

Side: No
2 points

Pretty much ALL prostitutes are victims, whether forced into it or not. Those that would say they wandered into it by choice, actually feel like they had no other choice. And the reason they felt like they had one choice that is a women bashing piece of crap job, is because of the way they were raised and they are thus, a victim of parents who have failed her and made her feel worthless.

Side: No
Pineapple(1449) Disputed
1 point

I'm sorry, but that isn't true.

Just like there are people who love doing porn or stripping, people can love hooking.

Side: No
Nichole(689) Disputed
2 points

You really believe any female in their right mind "loves" doing porn and stripping? I've seen it over and over of people saying they truely love their job in such a "business", but most people can tell they're lying to them self. I'm pretty sure any porn star isn't going to stand around saying they hate their job but don't know what else to do, because it makes them look like an idiot. We all find excuses to back up any thing we do that is ridiculous.

Side: yes
2 points

I believe that prostitutes in legal conditions are not victims. But, those legal conditions can vary.

I do know that there are many women who are forced into sex slavery, as well as children. This is something that can't be stopped whether prostitution is legalized or not, though.

But, prostitution can have its victims.

but:

"If selling is legal and fucking is legal, than why isn't selling fucking legal?"

- George Carlin

Side: No

George Carlin was always my hero, lol! No, prostitution is not victimless as long as there are underaged girls and women who are being forced into sex slavery by their pimps. One might argue that the grown woman made herself a victim when she pimped out but many probably don't realize how to start something like prostitution without one! What a shame it is.

Side: No

I would say that suicide is the ultimate victimless crime. I do believe it's illegal, and, in this situation, the victim is the same person as the assaulter. It is victimless, because this person wanted to die, and the person that killed them wanted to kill someone, namely, themselves.

Side: No
1 point

Oh peshaw, the victim in prostitution is whoever gets the STD and has to deal with it. I guess some people think there should be pretty harsh rules against spreading diseases like herpes.

No matter what game you play someone is gonna get hurt. It's in the rulebook~

Side: No
0 points

You are citing a problem caused by making prostitution illegal.

Side: yes
Warlin(1213) Disputed
2 points

I don't recall this debate being on whether prostitution should be legal or not. At current it is a crime. And it has victims, many victims. So maybe I don't understand the angle you're getting at.

Side: No