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Its not the way to go! The kid deserves it!
Debate Score:20
Arguments:16
Total Votes:20
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 Its not the way to go! (10)
 
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UPDATED: Is spanking abusive?

Children ho aren't disipline turn out differently but know this:

JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET SPANKED DOESN'T MEAN YOU WILL BE A SPOILED BRAT!

Just because a child isn't spanked means you will be a jerk. Parents use other methods of punishment and usually if a child is spoiled good parents would already organize a response whether its no or yes. Yet, spanking kids is known to cause pain depending on the weapon use for harm. If using a belt, you probably be torn to shreds. Otherwise, both sides of this are equally menacing. Don't feel scared to answer this poll if your still a adolescent. To be honest, I would love to hear a 12 year old speak out on this. Any young adults whom are in high school and above probably don't get spanked anymore, so use past references. Have fun and be respectful.

UPDATED: My bad! I chose the wrong word in this topic. Child neglect isn't primarly hurting the child but is not PROVIDING child. Abuse is actual physical and mental pain whether its sexual contact, spanking, or injuring the being. NOW... With the use augmented question please continue the debate. I am NOT a instegator and am apauled to hear that. People make mistakes but taking a step further to make hostility to my reputation isn't tolerated in my forums.

Its not the way to go!

Side Score: 12
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The kid deserves it!

Side Score: 8
1 point

Neglect implies an absence of action. Spanking is an action. Ergo, no.

Side: Its not the way to go!
1 point

I have to support the position of Jace as I was thinking the same thing. There might be a better word choice than neglectful.

Side: Its not the way to go!
1 point

Simply said, the pro-spanking side defaults loss due to wrong word choice. The instigator of this topic should have written it as: Is spanking child-abuse? or Is spanking a child abusive? or Should corporeal punishment be privately endorsed in any familial unit?

Side: Its not the way to go!
1 point

Personally, I've always thought spanking was kind of primitive and outdated. Many claim that it works, but if a child is not misbehaving, is it really because they're learning to distinguish between right and wrong? Or is it just compliance out of fear? I think there are definitely less threatening alternatives to spanking. For instance, firm explanation when a mistake or disobedience occurs. If you are mad at your child, you are probably more likely to end up dealing out severe punishments.

I don't think spanking is neglectful, I just think there are many reasonable alternatives, but every individual parent is different.

Side: Its not the way to go!
lolzors93(3225) Disputed
1 point

It is better to fear the punishment of immorality and understand immorality not than to continue in immorality with no consciousness of either.

Side: The kid deserves it!
Troy8(2433) Disputed
1 point

But how are they understanding immorality? Thinking "I'm not going to throw my food at the ceiling or else mommy is going to smack with me the paddle..." does not really show a great knowledge of right and wrong. Explanations are more helpful than threats and punishments, at least from my experience as a young child.

Side: Its not the way to go!

When I was kid, spanking was prevalent. Now, that I'm an adult I look at it and say "well, that's a lot of goddamned work!" Especially, when technology has improved quite considerably. I remember how my teachers used to break a sweat, pulling out the paddle and lining us up against the wall. And I think "well, why should I have to go through all that work? I didn't do anything wrong!" Nowadays, there's tazers and stunguns. I recommend that everyone get with the program.

Side: Its not the way to go!
1 point

I can't claim to have never spanked my kids, but I have rarely spanked my kids, and they are the most obedient and conscientious (well, two of them anyway) kids I know. I've always taken the time to explain why what they're doing is wrong. I also rarely punish my kids. I've seen two many parents get to the point where there kids just don't respect them anymore. The punishments have gotten as far as the parents are willing to go, and the kid knows it, and it just doesn't hold a threat anymore. This isn't to say that there shouldn't be consequences for their actions, but the consequences should be designed to help them get over their problems.

For example, my one son was having some problems in school last year, and so I told him he couldn't play anymore video games during the school year. They were becoming an addiction to him, and the only way he was going to be able to remember to do his homework was going to be to cut them out completely. His grades did go up, though it's too early to tell if the change is permanent.

Anyway, the point is, I didn't take away things that were good for him, or that he enjoyed, I only took away the things that were causing him problems, and I told him it wasn't a punishment, it was just to help him improve himself.

Spanking them doesn't help them to improve, but explaining to them why what their doing is wrong, and maybe sending them to a corner to allow them to calm down and think about what they did, will. I think timeouts are much more effective than spankings.

Side: Its not the way to go!

Spanking is child abuse and it causes mental conditions later on in life.

Side: Its not the way to go!
2 points

There is a difference between spanking and beating. Kids need a "spanking" every now and then; I would even argue that moral values have gone down ever since spanking became "taboo" in western culture. It instills a sense of punishment for wrong doings, while simply taking away something (i.e. computers, phones, etc.) from their possession does not. I remember I was spanked once and ever since then whenever my dad threatened to spank me I would run and apologize as fast as I could. Or I would "tough it out" and wait until he was ready to spank me then I would cry and he would let me go. I never did those things again because I learned to fear punishment. Now, I only see parents taking away things from their kids and what do the kids do in response? They go do something else and rebel against the punishment. You ground them; they watch TV. You take away the electronics and ground them; they go to sleep or pester you or do something productive just to "slap" to your face and show you how worthless it really is. You make them do "manuel labor" (i.e. mowing the lawn, racking leaves, etc); they slack off. Kids are rebellious naturally so trying to make them do something for punishment or taking something away from them for punishment is worthless. All it does is teach them that when they do something wrong they can get around the punishment some way, some how. Spanking a child is the only way to punish a child because it illustrates a number of things but it for sure shows 1) The power the parents have over the child and 2) The lack of freedom the child has when being punished. It is neglectful to not spank your child.

Side: The kid deserves it!
1 point

Meh? There's nothing wrong with a little spanking here and there.... some even enjoy it.

Side: The kid deserves it!
2 points
Side: The kid deserves it!

As long as you doin't leave marks or scars, it's just fine.

Side: The kid deserves it!