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What about situations where the suicidal ideation comes not from rational reflexion about the external world, but is more of neurological malfunction, which has no obvious cause? It could be people who are schizophrenic, bipolar, deranged, fearful and sad simply because that's the way they are.
I guess I wasn't clear. In my opinion, it is more cowardly for people in those situations to kill themselves rather than to tough it out and to find ways to fight their illness.
Yeah well I don't think it fits to that at all, since a baby isn't a temporary problem. And if you consider your baby a temporary problem, I would recommend abortion for you :)
Actually, suicide is quite brave considering the implications bestowed onto oblivious family and friends. Committing suicide breaks the spirits of loved ones. Hurting others through self affliction is really brazen.
My grandmother and her sons asked for her assisted suicide. She couldn't get one. Instead she has to live 2 years of regret, sadness and towards the end in confusion and suffering. Call it cowardly, but assisted suicide in that scenario was decidedly more humane than spending all those ressources only to prolong a certain death.
We can't base an argument against assisted suicide on an attitude of pure time preference. We can't just say that the longer we live the better. Why? Because that's the same kind of thinking, that insists that you have to live more than 50 years in order to have a good life, which is ignorant. Thinking like that is prejudicial, and when people are challenged about this belief they tend to get really stubborn. This is exactly how we want not to be when we judge how people live (or end) their life. You can't just say that someone is a coward because they choose to prematurely end their life; you absolutely have to take into account the circumstances. Would you call my grandmother's hypothetical, assisted suicide cowardice?
I am trying to obey the Golden Rule. I would not want to be forced into that situation, so I will respect the right of other people to choose within reason.
I think that it is cowardly to kill yourself because you couldn't handle what other people did to you. I mean for me I would never kill myself even if it was a last resort I wouldn't do it if I was hurt so much that I can't take it anymore.
I don't know you, so this is a clarification, not a dispute.
I wouldn't do it if I was hurt so much that I can't take it anymore.
I don't think you know that. Most people's biggest daily pain might be a splinter, and worse pain of their life might be a broken bone. Yet people have committed suicide for intense pains that wouldn't go away. So I definitely think if a pain was strong enough, you might consider suicide, yet I maintain the fact that I don't *know.
"because you can't handle crap other people have been taking for their whole lives"
The thing about that is that everyone is different, some people are simply stronger than others, or some people have it worse or easier, it just depends. And it isn't "crap". A lot of it is serious stuff. Plus, if someone can't deal with something then they have the right to kill themselves if they want to. Yes, it will hurt their loved ones, but if they look at it from a different perspective they will see that the person is better off because they aren't dealing with their living hell anymore.
when you suicide it means your scared of your problems or fears.Take hitler for example when he was in his last bunker days he suicide because if he was caught he would be tortured or killed he didnt want to face it so,he suicide.Mostly suicide is just a way to make all your problems disappear.Which is cowardly since your not facing your fears or problems.
Courage is defined as: Strength in the face of pain or grief.
By this definition most suicide is cowardly, an exception could be if you are doing it for someone else, like to donate your heart to someone, or presenting yourself to a predator to allows those with you to escape.
A Person commits suicide if he/she cant accept the reality they live in. They maybe suffering from problems from school,home,work,and relationships. So I say yes its cowardly cause rather than stand up to these problems people who commit suicide want to escape them rather than fix them. An exception is if the person is suffering a psychological problem and is Depressed from no reason
Yes it is cowardly. Depression etc., whilst they are very serious mental illnesses, can be overcome over time with help and support. Grief however is much more devastating and in the loss of a loved one can be incurable. Suicide is an easy way to end your temporary problems, whilst passing on other, sometimes permanent problems to those who support and love you.
Depends on the situation. If you are stuck in a spaceship heading towards Alpha Centauri with no fuel or contact to Earth, I think suicide isn't a cowardly solution to the predicament of dying a slow and boring death.
Going out on our own terms the way you might want, rather than clueless in a hospital ward pissing and shitting in a bag, if suicide is cowardly given the choice of those two I'd rather be a coward with dignity.
Have you ever suffered from severe depression? I am assuming you haven't, which is good. But if you have, then you would know the answer to that. When you are dealing with severe depression and have a mental illness like that it is nearly impossible to simply "face life's problems". You don't care anymore, you don't feel anything anymore, nothing seems worth anything. There is only hatred and pain, there is no strength to deal with life. That is why they can't merely "accept" the situation.
I'm not making an argument for or against someone's right to commit suicide. I am simply saying that if someone chooses to commit suicide, and they do it due to pain or grief, they are making a cowardly choice.
We have words, they have meanings. Suicide is cowardly by definition.
Sign. You can't just make up your own definition for words. I'm not judging anyone, nor am I claiming they are making a wrong choice. I am simply stating the fact that if you kill yourself, and your reason is to avoid pain or grief, then it is a cowardly action. I am making no claim beyond that.
I believe he is saying that someone who is just saying they are going to kill themselves without true intention on doing so, simply searching for attention, then that is considered cowardly. However, I may be wrong considering I am not him.
All depends on the situation. If you're having emotional problems, then yes, it is very cowardly and it is going to hurt anyone who has had even the slightest attachment to you. But, if you're going to be tortured to death very slowly and you just end it quickly, then no, you were just being reasonable.