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Debate Score:132
Arguments:104
Total Votes:139
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Is the Abrahamic God the greatest sinner of all?

After all the terrible things he was supposed to have done to people in the Old testament?

Yes

Side Score: 76
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No

Side Score: 56
6 points

Yes he has no equal a despicable brutish thug who delights in baby murder , genocide , sacrifice , torture , slavery but his followers claim he is loving so they must be right we atheists are taking it out of CONTEXT ( cheating atheists ) historically no one comes even close when it comes to sinning as this wretch .

Side: Yes
lolzors93(3225) Disputed
2 points

God has never murdered. I do agree that He has done genocide (though, not mass murder) and torture; however, both of those are just, since God is punishing those who have done evil. What issue do you have with slavery? We have slavery in the world today and I think we should have more: criminals forced to work. So, what complaint do you have with God?

Side: No
Dermot(5736) Disputed
2 points

God has never murdered .....David refrained from murdering Nabal's servants or stealing from him. He expected his kindness to be repaid in the form of gifts from Nabal, but Nabal declined. God killed Nabal before David had the chance to go "avenging thyself with thine own hand" so you see straight away you are not telling the truth , read that again GOD KILLED NABAL , but you will do as your insane Christian friends keep doing and say "it's out of CONTEXT.

You are making a mistake if you think I don't know the bible I'm an expert so beware .

Your also wrong on the mass murder and look up baby murders as well , you are incorrect on torture too.

Again more untruths from you God actually criticises slavery except when he is doing it , tell me how come every Christian I've met needs an Atheist to teach him what his or her bible says .

So what complaint do I have ? Ok apart from his baby murders, genocide , slavery , child sacrifices , commands to rape , my main complaint is apart from him being a filthy animal of the worst kind his arrogance is quiet annoying.

Side: Yes
3 points

Even if he did exist, he would not only be a sinner but a hypocrite as well who can't seem to follow his own rules.

Side: Yes
1 point

This above post needs more "up" votes.

Side: Yes

Killing is a sin and God was supposed to have killed millions, some people say billions of people in the flood, all the first born of Egypt which would have been thousands, the whole population of the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, the whole Egyptian army and a number of Israelites for worshipping Baal.

Side: Yes
lolzors93(3225) Disputed
3 points

Killing is not a sin; murder is a sin, which is the unjust killing of someone. The people God kills is just, since they are those who have rebelled against Him.

Side: No
Malachi(77) Disputed
2 points

What happened to "thou shalt not kill"? There are many instances in the Bible that show God killing people just because they didn't do what he wanted, even though they weren't necessarily harming others. And that's just considering the possibility of him being real. What about the kids who were killed by God just because they were teasing Elijah? They were KIDS, dude. Every child teases someone at one time or another. And don't you think that if he would kill kids over this, he would kill all the people who commit incest, mass murders, and etc? You're "God" must be pretty biased, and if he is, doesn't that go against treating everyone with equal amounts of love and fairness?

Side: Yes
2 points

Epicurus said it perfectly: "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" If a god who has allowed atrocities to occur in his sight among his innocent creation is without sin, then why should we serve him and abstain from the things he has proclaimed as sinful?

Side: Yes
2 points

Hi there saw this in passing and it's quiet good isn't it , I remember first reading this and being struck by the reasoning in the words , I'm afraid my friend your dealing here with people who are not capable of logical thought.

Side: Yes
1 point

I'm glad to see that rationality and logicality aren't too rare around here. And yes, when I first read this, I was just in awe that the simplicity of the words could successfully argue the existence and credibility of God. Pretty impressive.

Side: Yes

No, he write the laws of good and evil and has never comited any sin.

Side: No
riahlize(1573) Disputed
3 points

has never comited any sin.

Could have sworn wrath was a sin. And killing innocent people.

Side: Yes
1 point

But breaks the laws all the time ,

Side: Yes
2 points

No he doesn't, TheEccentric.you see, he is God and never sins!

Side: No
2 points

how could that even make sense when God is the one who judges what is sin and what isnt??

Side: No
1 point

Because he breaks his on rules. "Thou shalt not kill" yet he supposedly has killed millions .

Side: Yes
orangepeel(190) Disputed
1 point

I'm pretty sure that applies to murder, not self defense, justice, war, etc.

Side: No
izzybug(4) Disputed
1 point

im pretty sure you know why killing is a sin.. the unlawful taking of another person's life for no good reason. but God himself sent people to war, which is necessary and serves a greater purpose than just killing for fun.. and when God killed or ordered death by the hands of someone else, He had a reason/purpose to serve. whether it be vengeance or to wipe out a wicked civilization etc. Its just like when your parents tell you not to do something that they themselves did or do.. they dont trust your judgment, but they trust their own because they know better. and God tells us that He is the only one with the right to judge

Side: No
1 point

God, by definition, can't sin.

Side: No
5 points

God, by definition, can't sin.

Since when is murdering babies not a sin?

This right here is why you should never trust religious people to look after your children; especially those who practice Christianity, Islam or Judaism, as all three glorify a man who attempted to stab his own son in the heart and light him on fire after the voices in his head told him to.

If this isn't the clearest example of the lunacy of religion, I don't know what is.

Side: Yes
quickscopz(163) Disputed
3 points

Since when is murdering babies not a sin?

Why can't he? Was it ever malicious? Or was it punishment? Did he do it for no reason or was it because of the actions of humans? If it was God's view of justice you can't argue against it until you understand his viewpoint.

This right here is why you should never trust religious people to look after your children; especially those who practice Christianity, Islam or Judaism, as all three glorify a man who attempted to stab his own son in the heart and light him on fire after the voices in his head told him to.

What the fuck? What in the living hell are you talking about? Clarification please?

Side: No