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Is the Sun the Real God of Life?
It burns in the sky and enables all life on earth. You can see it and feel it, so we dont have to argue endlessly about its existance. It doesn't meddle in our buisness or try to impose a morality, and it requires no groveling or self-hatred in return for salvation, all we have to do is enjoy the fact that it exists. I think the Sun-worshipers were onto something.
When the sun destroys all life it doesn't plan on keeping the humans it doesn't like to torture for all eternity, or, if that is the plan, the sun hasn't made its intentions very clear. Either way, I'll take instant destruction over eternal suffering.
It's just that anything could kill his beloved creation [us] in a split second, within the mindless natural world.
I wouldn't call it "Intelligent" design, if the Sun had a limited life span- just like the rest of the stars.
We're just insignificant little germs on a blue planet that can get mauled by an asteroid at any second- or completely lose its life harboring atmosphere instantly due to a rare quantum fluctuation.
Anything can kill us, without any will of a God.
An asteroid can always be led astray through a definitive set of physics that happen on its own accord. When we see a ball bounce, we know that it is not some God bouncing it back. Our physicists know this well. So if an asteroid were to collide on to another celestial body, the physics would cause it to rebound of and fly of to wherever. If that "wherever" happened to be Earth, that would just be bad luck for us.
But so what? This is the natural world. They don't give a damn if some petty organism was thwacked from existence by a rock.
Yes, the sun is what is keeping us alive. Without it we would die. No Jesus/God to help you there buddy. No sun=Death. Sun=Life. If you got past the 9th Grade, you would realize that the sun is the fuel that keeps ecosystems alive. It produces energy, fuels the growth of our our food, and is the basis of life on the Earth. If you remove the sun, we would be 'screwed' not only would the lack of a heat source freeze you to death within minutes. This isn't a religious debate. This is Scientific. Without the sun, there would be no life.
I wouldnt say he is a God , but I would say it is a form/type of God because to me , God is all living things . And if that one living thing dies , then there must be some sence into that
no it not science proves that the sun is a old star witch was created by a bang of an older star.god and his son.the sun could not have formed a human nor animal or plant
First we need to define what "God of Life" means. I'll assume, based on the definition of 'god', it means:
God of Life = Supreme being who created life, specifically humans in the Universe.
Is the sun a supreme being? For that to be true it would have to be intelligent, aka capable of thought. The sun is explained through a vast amount of scientific evidence as operating based entirely on the processes of gravity, nuclear fusion, fluid dynamics, etc.. . Although these processes can be complex they don't lead to any sort of intelligence, ie: the sun does not "think."
If the sun does not think, it is clearly not intelligent and therefore cannot be a "being."
Evidence for the sun being alive or for the sun being responsible for life on Earth is moot since it clearly cannot fit the definition of a supreme "being" and hence, cannot be a god.
Part of my point is the slightly inappropriate title, "God of Life." In asking if the sun is the real god of life, i invite people to compare the sun to the other gods of life that religions have offered up.
There is as much evidence supporting that the sun is a supreme being who created life, can think, and is intelligent as there is for any other god of life, which is to say none. But unlike other gods of life the sun does enable life on earth, and this is a fact, one fact more than any religious theory has.
Everyone debates god in the context of his wisdom or his creation or his intelligence or his status as god, but all of this is conjecture to be taken on faith. If you have to take those thing on faith and apply them to something, why not pick the ready made god of life in the sky instead of a god whose very existence is questionable?
I do understand what you're going for. Poetically, it could be considered true as could be the case with many of the other "god myths" out there. In the same sense one could call the Big Bang god too, as it was the creation process that lead to everything there is.
Poetry and myth make for wonderful stories, no doubt, and they explain things in a way that lets us grasp them easily. Thinking of the sun as a "God of Life" can be inspiring, that is, until that vague idea gets turned into a real religion and starts interfering with society, human rights, and scientific understanding.
That's not what the debate is getting at. It's saying (I think) that if anything could be called "God", then it's the sun, because we would not be here without it.
Everyone seems to be looking for the meaning of life up their own rectum. Wishful thinking and dogma have got us so wrapped up in god, creation, angles, magic, hellfire, and the like I think we're overlooking the real "miracles," like photosynthesis, that allow us to live on this planet every day. And if tribute is owed to anything, why not the sun? Seems more legit than some invisible, new-age Zeus wannabe.
no,i think this is not true because god gives us knowledge to go in true and right way it gives energy internally to do some things in opposite situation .it has the power providing source .but fail to see ,it could only feel as in soul.it is the provider of energy without any restriction as continuously,the god has no any definite shape and size but sun has all the characteristics which are give above there for .i can definitely that sun is the not real God of life
For us to believe that the Sun is a god we would have to believe that molecules are gods as well. Even the Sun depends on them. They are the building blocks of existence and at the same time they are the evidence of Intelligent Design. Molecules all move and bounce around and if they stop moving everything in existence deteriorates. They move off of an unknown and untraceable power source. The real God would have to be everywhere at one time to keep them going and if God was to make a mistake we would all accidentally fall apart. Even though the very existence of the Sun screams, "There's a God!" I doubt that it is the Sun that is God even though I believe God rules over the Sun
Supporting Evidence:
Is God real
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God is dependent on belief to exist. If belief fails, so does he. So in that sense, god depends on us to survive (and he needs us a lot more than we need him). Because our collective stupidity and will to believe makes up god, does that make us god?
humans cannot live with just the sun, try to sunbathe every single day in the 100 degree desert without bringing water and not breathing air, im sure your'e gonna be dried human. we all know those mexicans who tried to cross the border died of dehydration due to lack of water. If the so called sun is a life giver, how come they died? i bet all of you during summer, you cannot live without airconditioner. if sun is a lifegiver, turn off that ac during summer months. im glad there is a sun, without the sun i wont be able to dry my laundry, my garden loves the sun too, without the sun there will be no rain, because heat is needed to evaporate water and makes some cumulus cloud then becomes rain. Sun is just part of the basic necessity in order to survive. humans needed shelter, food, heat, air and water. without it, were practically dead. so stop this nonsense, sun is not god. ok call it god if thats what you like, but not the Almighty God, the creator of heaven and earth. i bet you your sun god will not be able to make snow, only the Almighty God can make that. Peace out!
This is a really great question. While we would not survive without the sun...at least not as we know it, I don't think the sun is our savior. While I am Christian and Catholic, I believe our creator created the sun to warm our planet. It is really hard to believe that God would not create all of the things we needed to survive.
Look at it this way...you have a pet, are you not God to your pet?
Even if Christianity is correct and Jesus and god are real, they would be the demi-god and god of death, not life. All the rewards you reap from your faith you reap in death, and the only time you will ever see a god of death is in death. Life is a punishment, a sentence to be served when it comes to monotheistic dogma. From the Christian perspective life is for groveling, servitude, and despising the human condition, and death is where all the good stuff is.
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, there, and asserting that they are deities of death.
Also it's not a Sun god I'm talking about, I'm talking about the giant ball of burning gas at the center of our solar system in relation to our existence and continued life on this planet.
People typically believe Jesus and god are real because it's what they've been taught. The common argument used when asked for evidence though is that it's a matter of "faith" or "believing." This "faith" argument however is circular logic that prevents people from being "allowed" to question such beliefs.
Was Jesus a real person? Evidence points to (probably) yes. That doesn't mean he was a supreme being or creator though. There's no evidence for making that assertion outside stories and myth, which is the same as for the ancient Roman, Norse, Mayan, Babylonian, or whatever other gods. We know people make up stories, we know the grape-vine effect can change and exaggerate those same stories over time, and we know that human memory and experience is often misleading, so why would the stories of Christianity be real and not any of these other myths?
I'm sorry but saying something is true with no evidence to back it up is simply not a valid argument.
Just because you are older, doesn't make you smarter. Everyone has different IQ levels.
You have just failed to realize a figure of speech above, so I guess I could call you a hypocrite.
What makes the situation worse for you is the fact that you are older, yet dumber. Also, considering your age, you must of had more advanced English classes in senior years, so why are you not demonstrating any of these skills on here? Why do you continue to be ignorant? Can't you see the logical flaws in your own sentence? This is embarrassing for your age. I think you need help.
Well it says on the debate title Is the Sun the Real God of Life. I guess I didn't know that was a figure of speech. I thought that was the topic we were talking about that the sun was the real God of life. I am not dumb. I know I am smart person. By the way I am only a freshmen in high school so I didn't take any advanced English classes.
Also the reason why I don't demonstrate my skills on here because I don't want to speak in high vocabulary words. I use mostly words that I use in everyday life style when I converse with someone and I live in a family that doesn't use high vocabulary because if I say something in high vocabulary my parents and younger siblings would be confused.
Well it says on the debate title Is the Sun the Real God of Life. I guess I didn't know that was a figure of speech. I thought that was the topic we were talking about that the sun was the real God of life.
One who has at least some experience with the English language could identify this figure of speech almost instantaneously.
I figured it out, but I'm younger.
You didn't figure it out, but you're older. What does that make of you?
if I say something in high vocabulary my parents and younger siblings would be confused.
I am not your parent, nor your younger sibling, so why can't you speak with a higher vocabulary around me?
Although, I sort of doubt you could...
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Also the reason why I don't demonstrate my skills on here
+ (You are stating you have advanced skills.)
By the way I am only a freshmen in high school so I didn't take any advanced English classes.
= Contradiction. (And now you are stating that you do not have advanced English classes. This spells contradiction.)
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By the way I am only a freshmen in high school so I didn't take any advanced English classes.
Doesn't mean you know more or know better. Hitler (pardon the cliche example) was older than I am now when he made the decisions that made him infamous, and his age does nothing to justify or explain his actions, nor did he make good use of "knowing more" than I do today.
My parents are older then me and they know more about how everyday life is about and more experiance then I do. So they know more and know better then I do.
Obviously I wasn't implying that someone who is older than you couldn't possibly know more than you, I was saying that age does not in and of itself indicate any sort of intelligence, wisdom, or "knowing better." You were using your age in lieu of an actual point to support your argument, so I refuted that. Being older doesn't make you right.
My parents are older then me and they have experienced more. So does that mean I have more experience then my parents? No. They have lived longer then I have and they know more then I do. Do I know more then my parents? No.
Apollo, Ra, and Freyr are sun gods, deities that represented or governed the sun in mythology. This does not make them gods of creation, and the debate never meant to imply a sun deity in the burning ball of gas above us. The sun is simply an object of extreme value to us in that it enables life, and is, in that sense, and god of life.
The debate is prompting you to question yourself, not something I'd expect from you, but still; ideally making you compare the actual, irrefutable, tangible effects the sun has on your life as opposed to the supposed, unproven, intangible effects your idea of god has on your life.
