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NOT mine The SOUTH will rise again
Debate Score:50
Arguments:48
Total Votes:57
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Is the confederate flag YOUR heritage?

NOT mine

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The SOUTH will rise again

Side Score: 19
3 points

The Confederate Flag is a battle flag, it represents no legitimate country and is, therefore NO ONES "heritage". I get P_O'd when I see the Gadsden Flag waved beside this terrorist battle flag, a flag that IS part of our heritage. :-(

Side: NOT mine
3 points

Is the confederate flag YOUR heritage?

It's the heritage of people who call people fake Jews like Hitler.

Side: NOT mine
1 point

Is the confederate flag YOUR heritage?

It's the heritage of the people who locked you in your home, arrested mommies, and which ships in people to block entrances to rallies and attempt to block people from supporting their candidate. You vote for them anyway. You actually like being told what to do by the white man as long as he comes up with an excuse to use draconian measures on you and has that D next to his name.

Side: NOT mine
excon(14555) Disputed
1 point

which ships in people to block entrances to rallies and attempt to block people from supporting their candidate

Hello bront:

Wow.. Just WOW!!

If you let a few pansy left wing hippies BLOCK millions of you big, bad, right wingers from attending your rally, the civil war you've been stoking is already LOST...

Just WOW again..

excon

Side: The SOUTH will rise again
HandsOff(35) Disputed
1 point

If you let a few pansy left wing hippies BLOCK millions of you big, bad, right wingers from attending your rally, the civil war you've been stoking is already LOST...

The left bought up thousands of tickets, and at some point the BOK Center realized generally that things were odd, and they began letting people buy tickets to get in and let them in. But since Trump was about to speak, and blocked entrances slowed down the proccess, thousands weren't allowed in for security reasons. That's your tolerant party.

Just WOW again..

Watching you claim Liberal cities are systematically racist while voting in the very people running those systematically racist cities is a double wow. Watching you evade and dodge that very issue is a triple wow.

Side: NOT mine
1 point

Good opening there for any go ahead entrepreneurs-

UNWANTED OR OFFENSIVE FLAGS AND BANNERS DESTROYED.

STATUES AND MEMORIALS REMOVED..

Contact F.B. KNIGHT & CO FOR A COMPETITIVE QUOTE.

Side: NOT mine

Is the confederate flag YOUR heritage?#

Shut up you fake Jew.

Side: The SOUTH will rise again
1 point

Unfortunately it is part of my heritage because my ancestors on both sides of my family were slave owners and believe me I'm not proud of it. I see the confederate flag as being nearly as bad as the Nazi flag. I don't get why people would want to strut around advertising that they're an anti-American loser.

I do genealogy and one of the interesting but also sad aspects of that is that I've found an actual interview of a slave of an ancestor. This slave had my own last name. He said that he liked being my ancestors slave because they didn't beat him much.

That interview and many others like it exists only because FDR was determined to get the economy going during the depression and he created make-work jobs. Nearly everyone knows that he sent out photographers to take a "portrait of America" which gave us iconic photo's of the dust bowl, the one that comes most easily to mind is the sun baked woman holding a baby. She was covered in dust. That photo was taken in California and the woman and her family had fled the dustbowl to find work in the fields in California. But FDR also sent out journalists to interview former slaves. There were former slaves at that time but they were almost all elderly so it was a now or never situation. The interviews were written in a way so as to try and maintain the dialect (slave dialect) of these people so it might come across as demeaning to some but that's not the way I read it. For me it seemed to more realistically portray who they were and the incredibly hard lives they'd had. These are called Slave Narratives and they are very interesting reading. Highly recommended.

So anyway, I despise that flag and I despise anybody who thinks it's cool. Luckily for them wishing them dead doesn't work no mater how hard I try.

"They were good to us. Dey whupped us sometime. I wuz not old enough to do no fiel’ work."

https://accessgenealogy.com/featured/slave-narratives.htm

Side: The SOUTH will rise again
HandsOff(35) Disputed
2 points

This slave had my own last name. He said that he liked being my ancestors slave

This is why it's ridiculous when the left tries to use presentism to denounce old statues. You have no idea what the situation was in each case of slavery. A good man at the time might actually take on more slaves to keep them out of the hands of harsh slave owners, knowing they couldn't get a job and would be a slave regardless to someone, and if you'd been alive during that time, you might have been that particular slave owner. And despite your perfectly good intent, you today would destroy your own statue from that time period because you can't imagine anything outside of your left wing dogma.

Side: NOT mine
excon(14555) Disputed
1 point

A good man at the time might actually take on more slaves to keep them out of the hands of harsh slave owners

Hello bront:

Yeah.. Slavery was bad, but whatabout the good slave owners??

excon

Side: The SOUTH will rise again

The truly sad thing is that I don't think we've moved very far past those times. The attitudes are still there because of the class system.

Side: The SOUTH will rise again
BootLicker(10) Disputed
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The truly sad thing is that I don't think we've moved very far past those times. The attitudes are still there because of the class system.

Then you aren't very smart, don't know anything about civil rights history, and have never watched old videos where racist statements by today's standards were normal.

Side: NOT mine
BootLicker(10) Disputed
1 point

I don't get why people would want to strut around advertising that they're an anti-American loser.

Why exactly is the Confederate flag "anti-American", but kneeling for or burning the American flag not "anti-American"?

Side: NOT mine

It's our country's heritage and therefore our heritage as Americans. You can't pick and choose. We are a product of our past- the good, the bad and the ugly.

That was easy, give me something difficult.

Side: The SOUTH will rise again
excon(14555) Clarified
1 point

It's our country's heritage We are a product of our past

Hello High:

Couple things..

Heritage belongs in a museum.. The guys you're celebrating LOST.. The guys you're celebrating were TRAITORS. The guys you're celebrating were fighting to KEEP slavery..

Given the above, what would prompt me to think you're any different than our own resident white supremacist, Miocene?

excon

Side: NOT mine
BRONT(423) Disputed
2 points
BRONT(423) Clarified
1 point

Heritage belongs in a museum

Interesting. Leftists hate Abraham Lincoln. I think we both know why.

Boston considers removing Abraham Lincoln statue with freed slave

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/ 2020/06/15/boston-considers-removing-statue-of-lincoln-with-freed-slave/amp/

Iconic Washington, DC, monuments defaced in night of protests

Numerous Washington, D.C., landmarks were the target of vandalism Sunday evening as protests in the nation's capital over the police killing of George Floyd entered their third day.

Photos posted on Twitter by the National Park Service (NPS) showed graffiti on several monuments including the Lincoln Memorial, the World War II Memorial and the Brigadier General Casimir Pulaski statue in Freedom Plaza.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/news/500406-famed-washington-dc-monuments-defaced-in-night-of-protests?amp

Side: NOT mine
HighFalutin(3167) Clarified
1 point

Heritage is everywhere, not just a museum. Statues, buildings, monuments, our literature are all a part of our heritage. Furthermore, I'm not celebrating these people, they are a part of our history. For good or for bad, trying to erase them is wrong.

Side: NOT mine
GrinchSanta(4) Clarified
1 point

Heritage belongs in a museum.. The guys you're celebrating LOST.. The guys you're celebrating were TRAITORS.

We aren't celebrating anyone. We're asking you why you are stupid enough to pretend like destroying U.S. Grant, Thomas Jefferson, and Abraham Lincoln statues is destroying Confederate "traitors".

The guys you're celebrating were fighting to KEEP slavery..

Nobody cares about Lee as a person. They care, at least in principle, that you are destroying American cities and vandalizing things that your Democrat run cities could have taken down through peaceful legislation decades ago as opposed to through violent means with disregard for any legislation.

Lenin was a mass murdering, homicidal maniac. Why don't you guys go ahead and take down that statue for us buddy? Nah, you like white, murdering tyrants. You like seeing him mocking you with that white, elitist smile. He is your white daddy.

Side: NOT mine