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Debate Score:22
Arguments:39
Total Votes:23
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Is the existence of science and technology contingent upon a monetary system?

No

Side Score: 13
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Side Score: 9
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1 point

One has to have money to have technology. To further advance science you need technology. You need scientists or a some form of education to understand or/and experiment with said technology, which also isn't free. One can stand outside and look at the stars all they want but the unfortunate fact is, without money you can't see beyond your own ability. This is why most Scientists work to gain funding for their projects.

Side: Yes
2 points

One has to have money to have technology.

That is a fallacy. Is what you are saying universally true or is it only true in the context of a society in which you need money to have resources in general? Money is a man made concept, one that (I would certainly hope) will not be around forever and was not always here before.

You need scientists or a some form of education to understand or/and experiment with said technology, which also isn't free.

You are right in the sense that education is not free, nor is technology. What you fail to consider is that in tangible reality what things cost is resources, not social constructs. Have you ever considered the prospect of a post capitalist society or do you just assume it's the end all be all?

This is why most Scientists work to gain funding for their projects.

It's also why scientists lack funding while resources are used to build casinos, bail out rich bankers and shoot people for oil and opium while telling you it is to protect democracy. Money (and more specifically capitalism) makes for a society where a bunch of pompous, self serving, scientifically illiterate fucking microdick weasels get to make decisions about how resources are used because they have more social construct points than intelligent and/or benevolent people. For example, that is how you get people like Donald Trump and Thomas Edison deciding what type of energy we use instead of people like Nikola Tesla and people who know that climate change exists.

To encapsulate all that I just said I am going to provide you with one simple statement to consider: As our capacity to create abundance with science and technology increases, so too does our capacity to destroy everything because humanity allowed a bunch of rich ass holes to make decisions for their own gain instead of people who knew what the fuck they were doing or cared about the planet or anything on it other than themselves. Will the day come when decisions about how we use the earth's resources are based on reason and science or will we continue to let a bunch of capitalists give science a measly allowance while they waste everything for profit?

Side: No
outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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LIMEY do you SOCIALIST not any MONEY ??????????? Have you checked with the ROYAL FAMILY on what you do not know ??????????????

Side: Yes
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As our capacity to create abundance with science and technology increases, so too does our capacity to destroy everything because humanity allowed a bunch of rich ass holes to make decisions for their own gain instead of people who knew what the fuck they were doing or cared about the planet or anything on it other than themselves. Will the day come when decisions about how we use the earth's resources are based on reason and science or will we continue to let a bunch of capitalists give science a measly allowance while they waste everything for profit?

This is very true and I would not argue against it. One of the quote's I've believed in is "when the rich wage war, it's the poor who die", apparently Jean-Paul Sartre said it but I heard it from Linkin Park a while back. Now we have rich people who in a sense are waging war against our very planet by funding the denial of science.

Side: No
outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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Now according to this LEFTIST DUMMY only the SCIENTIST that the BITCH believes in need MONEY ! JEWEL you and the RETARDED CHILD and your ALLERGIC OLD MAN do not need any money ????????? BITCH is BARNEY SANDERS going to save your LEFTIST ASS ????????????

Side: No
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I don't know, but there does seem to be a lot more science and technology going on in capitalist nations. The socialist ones just kind of use shittier versions of what capitalists invent and try to pass their bullshit economic theories and postmodernism off as science.

Side: Yes
TheGhost(2) Disputed
1 point

I don't know, but there does seem to be a lot more science and technology going on in capitalist nations.

That's because you're looking through the eyes of a moron who has never left his own country, and who couldn't find Europe on a map.

Here is a link to the most recent Quality Of Life Index:-

1, Denmark, 196.47. 2, Switzerland, 196.08. 3, Finland, 195.06. 4, Australia, 189.73. 5, Iceland, 188.12. 6, Austria, 187.82. 7, Netherlands, 186.41. 8, Germany

https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings bycountry.jsp

Note all the European socialist (or semi-socialist) economies which rank higher than your own for healthcare and safety technology.

Put simply, a conversation with you would likely be impossible since you are completely oblivious to what facts are. You prefer to think and say things which are false, but which appeal to popularity and/or groupthink.

The socialist ones just kind of use shittier versions of what capitalists invent

Except the socialists beat you into space and invented satellites. Shut your stupid mouth, you idiotic propaganda station. You stole your technology from Nazis, son. The rocket technology at the heart of American technological power is Nazi technology, stolen in the aftermath of Operation Paperclip. It has nothing to do with capitalism.

Side: No
outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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LMMFAO !!!!!!!!!!! You EUROPEAN SOCIALIST have the GREATEST HEALTHCARE just ask MICK JAGGER about that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROTFFLMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Yes
PoodleOfBark(12) Disputed
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That's because you're looking through the eyes of a moron who has never left his own country, and who couldn't find Europe on a map.

It's right above the two places those countries you mentioned get their insane Muslim immigrants who rape women, establish their own laws, and poop in the streets.

Note all the European socialist (or semi-socialist) economies which rank higher than your own for healthcare and safety technology.

Most Socialist countries didn't even make the list and the ones that did are much more capitalister though.

groupthink

Bwahahahahahahaha

You stole your technology from Nazis, son.

So did the USSR. The difference is America ultimately went further with their space program because capitalism is sustainable whereas communist countries can only copy technology then pump out replicas with forced slave labor.

Side: Yes