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No,it is normal phenomenon Yes,it is a disease
Debate Score:58
Arguments:41
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Is the homosexuality a disease?

Nowadays we often meet people who suffer from homosexuality. Some people consider that it is normal, while other ones hold the opinion that is a freak of nature. It's known that human was appeared from Adam and Eve. So how it happened that there are people with another sexual orientation?  

 

No,it is normal phenomenon

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Yes,it is a disease

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5 points

I would argue that there has always been homosexuals, and therefore homosexuality is natural and normal. In every historical setting there has been homosexuals - Alexander the Great was known to have a same sex relationship, from ancient Mesopotamia (3000 b.c.e) artefacts depicting same sex couples have been discovered and homosexuality appears in both Greek and Roman literature. The fact that it's referenced in the Bible (even if it's not condoned) tells us that it was practiced nearly 2000 years ago. Just because a minority have a certain preference doesn't make that preference a disease.

Side: No,it is normal phenomenon
lolzors93(3225) Disputed
1 point

Then can you say that rape, prostitution, bestiality, pedophilia, assault, theft, murder, perjury, .............. are all natural because they have been around for a long time? I would say yes.

Side: Yes,it is a disease
lolzors93(3225) Disputed
0 points

Then can you say that rape, prostitution, bestiality, pedophilia, assault, theft, murder, perjury, .............. are all natural because they have been around for a long time? I would say yes.

Side: Yes,it is a disease
1 point

Yes, it is natural. We've seen animals kill each other, rape each other, even young, we've seen prostitution in nature, not for money, but other things.

The difference between what you list and homosexuality is that homosexuality isn't hurting anyone.

Your bullshit religion aside, there is nothing harmful about homosexuality and you look like a fool opposing it based on your ancient erroneous textbook.

Side: Yes,it is a disease
2 points

If it was not normal, it would not continually reappear in the gene pool. But it does. Therefore, it contributes in some way to our advancement, and is therefore natural and not a disease. I will reiterate again, if it were not normal, it would not exist.

Side: No,it is normal phenomenon
nummi(1432) Disputed
1 point

It isn't only genetic, it is also mental and environmental. When it comes to genetics then it is negative to our species, as it doesn't contribute to procreation. In everything else it is neutral, as it doesn't give or take anything (if you leave aside controversy it causes between people and issues it can cause to the persons having it).

It gives nothing to our advancement, it is completely unnecessary.

All diseases are natural.

It is a deviation from normal, it is not normal, but it is natural.

Side: Yes,it is a disease
chatturgha(1631) Disputed
2 points

It isn't only genetic, it is also mental and environmental.

Over a dozen scientific studies pen homosexuality as being genetic in almost every case.

When a woman gives birth to twins, and one twin is homosexual, there is a 73% chance the other twin will be gay, fraternal or identical.

When it comes to genetics then it is negative to our species, as it doesn't contribute to procreation.

If it were negative to procreation, it would have left the gene pool long ago. But it hasn't. Meaning it's actually doing something positive, whether we know what that positive thing is or not.

All diseases are natural.

The thread creator pegs homosexuality as marking a person as being a 'freak of nature', meaning the thread creator's point of view on 'disease', at least in this case, is that the 'disease' of homosexuality is unnatural.

We both agree that it is not unnatural.

I am saying it's not a disease because I am abiding by the terms that the thread creator sees the context of 'disease'.

Also, while a disease may only be just a set of symptoms and the such as Chuck stated, this isn't to say that culture agrees with this terminology. Generally, a disease is seen as being negative to the health of the carrier of the disease.

Homosexuality is, therefore, not a disease in cultural context or in the context of the thread creator.

Side: No,it is normal phenomenon
Jace(5222) Disputed
1 point

Actually, the genetic argument has considerably more weight than it is given. Not only is it substantiated by considerable research, but there are numerous explanations regarding the utility of homosexuality to the species. Some of the more familiar might include population moderation and social utility (i.e. more caretakers, specializers, etc.).

Further, homosexuality has been linked with increased human fertility in familiar relations. In other words, it is connected to genetics that increase fertility in family members who are not homosexual. {Please see the following for a better explanation: Zietsch, Brendan et al (2008) “Genetic factors predisposing to homosexuality may increase mating success in heterosexuals.” Evolution and Human Behavior 29 (Explaining how homosexuality can be passed on genetically.)

It is also evidenced in multiple species, indicating that it is a normal biological function not only within the human species but throughout nature. It would be far more abnormal were the human species to lack homosexuality.

Side: No,it is normal phenomenon
2 points

Homosexuality is just another behavioral trait in humans. A disease would be caused by a pathogen as far as I'm aware, and homosexuality is not caused by any kind of pathogen or abnormality in the body's structural and chemical makeup. It is also a universal thing that happens in all human cultures and indeed in many other species of animal, therefore making it normal.

Side: No,it is normal phenomenon
2 points

it's a genetic mutation. research shows that homosexuality is caused by genetically altered DNA.

Side: No,it is normal phenomenon
2 points

I would first mention that the creator of this debate is obviously biast. People don't "suffer" from homosexuality. They are homosexual. They happen to be attracted to the same gender. Also-- THERE. WERE. NO. ADAM. AND. EVE. RELIGION IS BULL. We evolved. And homosexuality is present in all other species. The homosexual brain is no different from the heterosexual brain. It's just what turns you on.

Side: No,it is normal phenomenon

It is a perfectly normal phenomenon, the fact that it is in there genes proves that nature allowed it, if it wasn't supposed to be natural, then nature would have never allowed it to be. If you want to put god into this, then you could argue that since god allowed homosexuality to exist even within one's genes, genes in which nobody can defy there own of, then how could god allow it to happen, and even allow it to be something people can't change, when this supposed god supposedly hates homosexuality.

It's known that human was appeared from Adam and Eve.

I request evidence for this, as I have not heard of any scientific breakthroughs of us finding evidence that we all came from two humans Adam and Eve without evolution changing us, and proving that everything we found as evidence for our evolution from bacteria was false. that would be pretty big report on all the news station, I think I would have definitely heard about it.

Side: No,it is normal phenomenon
1 point

A disease? No.... homosexuality is fabulous and gay.... haven't ya heard? ;)

Side: No,it is normal phenomenon
1 point

Homosexuality has an emotional support. And the emotions which are supplied to this people are the same as emotions in heterosexual couples. Secondly, homosexuality is a natural way of controlling a popupaltion growth. And disease is an abnormal state. Thirdly, the attempts to "cure" homosexuality led to no good and disease is something which can be treated.

Side: No,it is normal phenomenon

Well, a disease is something you can catch. Often, it's degenerative. There's a quantifiable causes and it's treatable. Homosexuality doesn't fit any of these descriptions. Homosexuality is a phenomenon that creates the world's best people.

Side: No,it is normal phenomenon

It is depending on the person. It is not a disease. In the heart, in the mind. Some don't have it because they have a straight thinking and don't think about that. Some just can't control themselves

Side: No,it is normal phenomenon

Homosexuality is right and natural, so, it is not a disease.

Side: No,it is normal phenomenon
2 points

Well, if we follow the definition of disease.

any deviation from or interruption of the normal structure or function of any body part, organ, or system that is manifested by a characteristic set of symptoms and signs and whose etiology, pathology, and prognosis may be known or unknown. From the medical dictionary.

Homosexuality would meet that definition. It is abnormal by definition too.

Now before you get all uppity about it, I'm not a homophobe or anything. A disease is not necessarily a bad thing, it's just an arbitrary word we ascribe to a set of symptoms. Same with abnormality (in fact most people like being abnormal, gives them a sense of uniqueness). Any negative connotations are made by someone else.

So although it is a disease, it's not a bad thing, and it's nothing to be ashamed of.

Oh I just noticed. Humans are not descended from Adam and Eve. It doesn't change my argument, but just so ya know.

Side: Yes,it is a disease
Apollo(1608) Disputed
4 points

Well, if we follow the definition of disease.

any deviation from or interruption of the normal structure or function of any body part, organ, or system that is manifested by a characteristic set of symptoms and signs and whose etiology, pathology, and prognosis may be known or unknown. From the medical dictionary.

Homosexuality would meet that definition.

Homosexuality does not fit that definition.

Homosexuality is not a "deviation from or interruption" from anything. How is homosexuality any more of a "deviation from or interruption [from] the normal structure or function of any body part, organ, or system" than heterosexuality. Neither are "manifested by a characteristic set of symptoms and signs." Neither are unnatural. Neither are abnormal. Neither have any negative health consequences associated with them. Homosexuality just so happens to be a large minority, and thus treated by the ignorant as "abnormal." If homosexuality is a disease, then so is having blonde hair.

Side: No,it is normal phenomenon
ChuckHades(3197) Disputed
1 point

Well first we'd have to agree on what the origin of homosexuality is. My personal viewpoint is that homosexuality is part of a gene that decreases the "choosiness" of humans when choosing a partner.

Let's say you've got two genes. Gene A will make humans less picky about their partners, and gene B will make them more picky. Gene A will be passed on, as it increases the chance of reproduction. Homosexuality, I think, is a deviation from this gene, making humans mate with their own gender.

It is also statistically abnormal in the sense that homosexuality is a minority. It's not strange, or odd, or any other definition of abnormal, it just puts them in a minority. Whereas blonde hair is not a disease or abnormal, because there is no normal hair colour we can expect humans to have, it depends on the parents.

Homosexuality then, is completely natural, and nothing to be ashamed of. I'm certainly not going to be shouting from the rooftops that it's a disease. But all I'm saying is that it can be classed as a disease, it can also not be classed as a disease. Whether it is or not, it makes no difference to the fact that homosexuality is natural, and should not be a taboo within our society.

Side: Yes,it is a disease
Lysenko(38) Disputed
1 point

How do you define it as abnormal? By that definition you could call a mutation a disease as well, which I hope you know is how we came to be as we are.

Side: No,it is normal phenomenon
ChuckHades(3197) Disputed
1 point

Statistically abnormal, I was going to change it, but someone upvoted my argument too quickly.

Side: Yes,it is a disease
1 point

Beyond doubt "YES"... even acording to medicine...What's normal when two people of one gender together...Even trere is no one animal, which have such kind of lifestyle.

Side: Yes,it is a disease
Jace(5222) Disputed
1 point

According to medicine homosexuality is not a disease. The American Psychological Association, a leading organizational authority in human behavioral disease and disorder declassified homosexuality from the Diagnostic Statistical Manual decades ago.

There are multiple documented cases of homosexuality within multiple other species.

In summary, do your research.

Side: No,it is normal phenomenon
Jace(5222) Disputed
1 point

According to medicine homosexuality is not a disease. The American Psychological Association, a leading organizational authority in human behavioral disease and disorder declassified homosexuality from the Diagnostic Statistical Manual decades ago.

There are multiple documented cases of homosexuality within multiple other species.

In summary, do your research.

Side: No,it is normal phenomenon
0 points

A normal phenomenon? Isn't that kind of an oxymoron? I wouldn't say it's a disease, but it definitely is not 'normal'.

Side: Yes,it is a disease
ricedaragh(2494) Disputed
1 point

A normal phenomenon?

A phenomenon is also an observable event, how is that not normal? If you mean an extraordinary event, then what makes homosexuality so?

Side: No,it is normal phenomenon
1 point

Nevermind, I was unaware of the alternate definition. my point still stands, however, that is not normal.

Side: Yes,it is a disease
Apollo(1608) Disputed
1 point

Having blue eyes isn't "normal," either. Being older than 65 isn't "normal," by your reasoning either.

Is there a point you were trying to make?

Side: No,it is normal phenomenon
Troy8(2433) Disputed
1 point

Yes, I was pointing out the fact that it is not normal, as the other side suggests.

Side: Yes,it is a disease
-2 points
zephyr20x6(2387) Disputed
1 point

Firstly, according to our nature it's impossible to create a normal family for homosexual people.

How so? you have not made any points to how homosexual people can't have normal families. Homosexuals are capable of loving each other, adopting kids, being good parents and role models so I do not see how you can simply state homosexuals can't have a normal family by natural means.

For instance, they change their gender with help our modern plastic surgery or use artificial insemination in order to be pregnant. Secondly, it is a autosuggestion, because some people think that their appearance is ugly for attracting men or they have a failure in their personal life.

first of all I don't know if a sex change makes it possible for you to have the capabilities to be pregnant as I've heard sex operations don't truly change your sex all the way, they can go pretty far but it isn't the same as the real thing, no offense to those who have had a sex change and I haven't looked into if they are even capable of becoming capable of pregnancy through sex change (man to woman) but hearing about how limited the surgery is I doubt it and if that is the case then obviously nobody is getting a sex change to be capable of pregnancy but because they feel as though they were meant to be the other gender. Secondly some people, like I said before, USUALLY get a sex change because they feel as though they are the wrong gender, and honestly to me that's a personal choice, a man choosing to be a woman or vice versa has no affect on my life or yours, so you can call it unnatural but there isn't anything wrong with that as long as they are ok with it, personally even if I did want to be the other gender what I've heard about the surgery, It wouldn't be worth it to me but that's just me.

It's a psychological disorder.

well first of all you are automatically associating gender identity with sexual orientation, just because someone is gay does not necessarily mean they want to be the other gender, all that means is that they are sexually attracted to the same sex, they may have no desire to be the other sex and may be grossed out by the idea of a sex change so I think it's really an error for you to call homosexuality a "psychological disorder" by associating it with something else that isn't necessarily always tied. secondly, If feeling you are in the wrong body is a psychological disorder, for all you know the cure to that may only be one thing, the surgery needed to be the other gender.

Side: No,it is normal phenomenon
Asseliaaa(23) Disputed
0 points

"How so? you have not made any points to how homosexual people can't have normal families. Homosexuals are capable of loving each other, adopting kids, being good parents and role models so I do not see how you can simply state homosexuals can't have a normal family by natural means."

Adopting kids...but if they want to have own kids, so what will they do then? It's impossible technically. Even the word "PARENTS" means that there are two different genders: male and female. According to nature if it was normal, they would be able to be pregnant. So how can you say that is normal???

Side: Yes,it is a disease
Jace(5222) Disputed
1 point

You are abhorrently ignorant. Points in case:

(1) The American Psychological Association (the leading professional psychological organization in the U.S.) declassified homosexuality as a psychological disorder in 1973.

(2) Same-sex couples are not "trying" to make normal families. They already have them. They are every bit the same as opposite-sex families, with the only exception being the biological sex of the two partners. The implication that fertility is necessary for a "normal" family discredits those who are infertile, abstinent, or choose to adopt.

(3) Sexual orientation and gender identity are not the same.

(4) Sexual orientation has been connected with human biology. It is not a choice.

Side: No,it is normal phenomenon