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150
Yes of course not
Debate Score:295
Arguments:136
Total Votes:358
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Is the world a better place without christians?

Yes

Side Score: 145
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of course not

Side Score: 150

I'm going to say yes, because the world would be a better place without the ignorance and barbarism that is religion in general. Having said that, the greatest threat to humanity in the present is undoubtedly Islam. If it comes down to us or them, as it looks more and more like it's going to, worrying about Christians when you have Muslims on your doorstep threatening to drag us all back to the stone age, would be like ignoring a bullet hole in your face while trying to pull a sliver out of your finger.

Side: yes
jthomas4(7) Disputed
3 points

so you think it is better to direct your frustration with Christianity due to the damage caused by this one particular religion by removing them from the world? Think about it this way, the war between Israel and Palestine is being fought over right now because of the very thing you believe is true. Palestine wants Israel off the face of the planet just as much as Israel wants Palestine off the face of the planet. The malice between these to countries is created by one of them thinking the world would be a better place with out the other, and it has created many many problems for not only them but surrounding countries as well. Aggression is not the answer tolerance is.

Side: Of Course Not
7 points

Aggression is not the answer tolerance is.

This statement is wasted on me. I'm not a theist and therefore have no desire to kill anyone for being a homosexual, for being a woman, for having irrational beliefs based on a primitive book of nonsense that is different from my own irrational beliefs based on a different primitive book of nonsense, or simply because God told me to.

Those people, theists, are the people you should lecture.

Side: yes
5 points

i MEAN SERIOUSLY people here are behond ridiculous. People strive to kill us and people who hate christians arent going to say that part are they. Muslims want to wipe out all of israel and always have and you tell me christians are violent! First of all there are christians who are wolves in sheeps clothing. And if christians are supposively violent im sorry they arent christian! They are lyers.

Side: Of Course Not
Simsoy55(9) Disputed
5 points

war is not what atheist are trying for. its just a though on what the world would look like if everyone or less people were Christian. Or if the myths/truth (depends on your belief) was never made up/gained in a dream by people with unstable mental issues that had motives and bias. Your argument is an attempt to draw peoples attention to the idea that what would it look like if atheist started killing Christians? Though if it ever did happen i would be the other way around. I dont enjoy religion, but i dont hate that people belief it unless their beliefs infringe upon my or others.

Side: yes
jtopolnak(158) Disputed
3 points

Muslim aren't Christian how do you compare them together when they are at complete opposition to each other?

Side: Of Course Not
aveskde(1935) Disputed
6 points

Muslim aren't Christian how do you compare them together when they are at complete opposition to each other?

Probably because the followers of each religion act very much alike historically and presently, and they worship the same god.

Side: yes
4 points

yes its better with Muslim's Christians are you dumso shut up

Side: yes
Troy8(2431) Disputed
3 points

yes its better with Muslim's Christians are you dumso shut up

Are you sure Christians are the dumb ones? :D

Side: Of Course Not
4 points

The world would be a better place without the ignorance of religion, period. We live in a time where we have access to the accumulated knowledge and technology that allows us to answer question we would never have even thought to ask as recently as three centuries ago and yet such an overwelming amount of people choose to live in self-imposed ignorance, to take comfort in myths and stories, archaic legends. It truly is sad that yet most of us still don't comprehend the true nature of what we do know - as fact, not faith - or as truth, as opposed to wish-fufillment of truth.

Side: yes
4 points

All religions are ideologically ( see koran old & new testament) and historically criminal and destructive. No religion is needed for the determination of right

or wrong. The world would indeed better without religion, and that includes

secular religions such as communism and nazism. Independence from

absolutes is a sign of human maturity and courage.

Side: yes
3 points

A world without Christians would force people to face reality, and see the world for how it really is, full of life and beauty.. and maybe it would encourage people to actually live everyday believing in themselves instead of something/someone that we can't see,feel or even prove.

Side: yes
3 points

Of course. Christianity is one of the major religions holding us back as a race and slowing down our progress because of their narrow-minded beliefs.

Side: yes
3 points

Absolutely. These people can't seem to keep their religion to themselves so it would do the world some good if the religion disappeared altogether.

Side: yes
2 points

I am basing my argument on the Catholic branch of Christianity with which I am familiar as my family are all (or once were) Catholic. Besides the kiddie fiddling and pedophilia that seems to be rampant and almost institutionalized in its frequency I have a big problem with several things.

For starters the church milks an obscene amount of money from the general public whilst returning little or almost none of it in the form of aid.

Secondly they pay no tax and yet they have the audacity to pass a collection plate around twice every mass. If you don't contribute that Ole' Catholic guilt.

Argument simplified is that Christianity is all take and no give unless it is an alter-boy that they are giving it to.

Side: yes
1 point

yes it is becuase christians don't allow lolfish and lolfish makes me lol

:D (Y)

Side: yes
1 point

Depends what kind of Christians, as there are so many factions. Some are harmless, some are useful and some are violent terrorist/criminal fronts. For example, The Jehovah’s witness sect is fairly harmless if you know how to handle them. The Christian convents are the basis from which modern schooling has developed and it’s where curriculum based teaching probably originated. The banking system was also first developed by the Christian Templars as a means of moving money around securely for use elsewhere. Then you’ve the IRA and Lords Army one is a criminal paramilitary group the other a child soldiers mercenary network. All are Christian but which would you rather have?

Side: Depends on sect
1 point

Absolutely it would be. It really pains me to say this but if you took away the three major religions in the world the world would be a better place.

Side: yes
1 point

I would like to say just on thing -

THE WORLD IS A BETTER PLACE NOT ONLY WITH THE ABSENCE OF CHRISTIANITY BUT WITH THE ABSENCE OF ALL RELIGIONS ON THE EARTH. PEOPLE SHOULD JUST BELIEVE IN ONE GOD AND RESPECT HIM AND NOT MAKE ANY RELIGIOUS DISCRIMINATIONS. IF TERRORISTS ATTACK IT WON'T LET IDIOTIC PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY ARE ISLAMIC TERRORISTS AND SO THAT RELIGION IS BAD

Side: yes
1 point

so the world should have one religion, one race, one country? the answer is not conformity, it's tolerance and acceptance.

Side: yes
1 point

probably

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Side: yes
1 point

I think the world would be better without any form of organized religion.

Side: yes
6 points

Christianity is rooted too deeply into our civilisation to do something as drastic as remove it. Sorry to say we must put up with it until it fades away into obscurity like the other dead religions.

Side: Of Course Not
4 points

i would say yes. but to be truthful, if all Christians could disappear why not the rest of religions? If you mean never existed, i would say YES! Give us back the hundreds of years of possible scientific advancement that was raped from the world during the dark ages.

Side: yes
3 points

NO the christian virtue is to serve others and to love all peoples.

Side: Of Course Not
aveskde(1935) Disputed
7 points

NO the christian virtue is to serve others and to love all peoples.

It doesn't work this way in reality.

Side: yes
hoegy(308) Disputed
7 points

The bible says to love your enemys, follow the commandments, to love jesus, and beleive in him. Follow him. Also to be good citizens but not fit in. The christian beleif is to do good through the word of GOd. So in other words christianity alone is only good. Now the people behind it who claim to be christians and committ bad deeds are probably not christian.

Side: Of Course Not
hoegy(308) Disputed
1 point

What is reality? Your reality? Surely your reality must fit with everyone else's.

Side: Of Course Not
khurram(32) Disputed
5 points

This is a pointless assertion. Christianity has wreaked the most havoc than any single religion, look at the history. Like every other organized religion, Christianity has done a lot more damage than it has done good. The world would be a better place without believers in any religion, and by the same token, without Christians.

Side: yes
Troy8(2431) Disputed
3 points

This simply is not true. Christianity itself has not wreaked havoc. People who claim to be Christian have. Yes, there is a large difference.

Christianity has wreaked the most havoc than any single religion, look at the history.

I truly doubt this. Islam has certainly done more to harm the world. And to be perfectly honest, I have looked at "the history" and there seems to be no indication whatsoever of Christians wreaking more havoc than Muslims.

The world would be a better place without believers in any religion,

How could you say this? Ever heard of Stalin? Atheists are a minority right now, so naturally they have not killed as many people. But I would be very skeptical about this statement.

Side: Of Course Not
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
3 points

... and then a large portion of christians choose to take this to mean things counter to this like giving people with AIDS condoms is a sin, that being gay should be illegal, that tragedies and natural disasters are acts of god and punishment for not being christian enough.

Then in this fevered state, they take the next step and decide for themselves that in order to love all people, all people should be christian

which usually just turns into annoying glassy-eyed cult behavior where christians go around beating their silly book into everyone's life,

but sometimes it turns into burning witches and starting holy wars.

Less obvious, but perhaps worse, christians take on an anti-science, anti-intellectual stance, whereby they elect officials, and vote for propositions that actually ban things like stem cell research which would actually lead to a better world.

Instead of putting thought into decisions, a large portion of christians base decision strictly on who yells Jesus the loudest, making the world a worse place for the majority. Making them easy to manipulate, and even more so because of their odd disdain for all things intellectual.

Christians clamour and shout "just think like us and everyone will be happy" and in attempting to force such in so many cases, they actually make everyone quite a bit less-happy.

You claim on the other side that one is only really christian if the hold themselves to the standard of loving everyone and trying to make the world a better place,

if this is the case, I do not know a single christian.

Religions is a blight. The world would be a better place without it, christianity specifically is one of the more annoying and hateful religions.

Side: yes
3 points

You're question is written as though there are no longer Christians. =p

I say a better world is a more interesting world and Christianity has certainly kept things interesting! XD

Side: Of Course Not
3 points

I don't think Christianity is the root of this world's problems, but a lot of atrocities have been committed by Christians or for seemingly "Christian" causes. But such is the case for other religions as well, Christianity is just the most popular label. The world could do well without stupid people who take their beliefs the wrong way, and if it is not Christianity, it is something else. People have found ways to dislike/disagree with each other despite religion. So my answer is no. The world would be a better place without stupid people in general, we have hypocrite/militant "Christians" in every religion. It's not just us.

Side: Of Course Not
2 points

To say that the world is better without Christians is at heart the same to say that the world is better without white people, Islamic people, African Americans, Asians, etc. It is discrimination. And if you are against discrimination then it is hypocritical to assume that the world would be a better place without Christians.

It is fair to say that Christianity has had its fair share of damage in the world throughout the ages. But so has Judaism, Islam, and any other religion that I can think of. So to direct one's frustration (because of actions taken that particular religious sect)against a certain religion is just what starts the damage all the aforementioned religions have caused. It is fighting fire with fire, and when you fight fire with fire the fire only gets bigger.

All in all I believe it is more fair to say that the world would be a better place without discrimination.

Side: Of Course Not
aveskde(1935) Disputed
5 points

It's easy to imagine the world being more advanced technologically, more civilised, if the abrahamic religions never came to be. It's not merely discrimination, but something born out of frustration for all the waste that these religions brought us.

Side: yes
3 points

yea but at its roots, the problem is that one group of people, or one person thinks that they are superior in someway to another. And b/c of it, they act on it. people get offended and it starts a vicious cycle. Everything is built on foundation, so why should the worlds problems be any different?

Side: yes
TERMINATOR(6778) Disputed
3 points

Without the Abrahamic religions - or rather, as the debate title suggests, Christianity - would not paganism be commonplace as it were prior to Christ?

That is, Rome, Germannia, Britannia, America; each of these places - and many more, if not all - were pagan prior to the advent of Christianity. What makes you think that modern society would be atheistic, rather than polytheistic such as was prevalent in pre-Christian Europe and present-day Asia?

Side: Of Course Not

-If you mean Christianity:

Why just Christianity?

-If you actually mean Christians:

If one were to say yes, it is like saying that the world would be a better place without Jews.

Side: Of Course Not
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
2 points

If one were to say yes, it is like saying that the world would be a better place without Jews.

Good logic. It's not quite right though because Jewish refers both to a group of people and a religion, while Christian is only a state of mind. One is born Jewish just as they are born white, black, with red hair, etc. This cannot be said for Christians.

I would say the world would be better without either religion, but of the two Christianity historically and presently has been far more destructive.

Atheists (unlike theists) when we refer to the world being a better place without a religion, do not mean eliminating a group of people, we simply mean we wish people would stop believing silly shit.

Side: yes
2 points

One is born Jewish just as they are born white, black, with red hair, etc. This cannot be said for Christians.

Oh... ok…(edit) :) That is not what I meant to say. I was just referring to the religion… (edit)

I believe that the world will be a better place without religion. However, eliminating Christianity is taking out just one problem out of a lot of others.

Would the world be a better place without Christianity? We would have to define better. There will still be the conflicts that didn’t involve the Christian religion. Probably, the removal of Christianity will develop new conflicts between other religions.

So, my side not is that the world would be a worse place without Christianity. What I am saying, is that removing Christianity is not removing the root of the problem. Eventually, another plant will grow and take its place…

Side: Doesn't solve anything
ThePyg(6737) Disputed
2 points

You know who else said that Judaism is a race? Hitler.

No. You do not have to be born Jewish just because your parents are Jewish. You can be Hebrew or Israeli... but not of a Jewish race. Judaism is merely a religious belief.

Side: Of Course Not
2 points

I mean i love everyone here everyone. Now thats something you dont get everyday. I would die for each and everyone of you.

Side: Of Course Not
Troy8(2431) Disputed
1 point

No offense, but this doesn't help our argument one bit. This is just you being a suck-up.

Side: Of Course Not
2 points

Really? im not trying to be. I mean im just speaking from my heart. I have no reason to being a suck up. Sorry if it doesnt help.

Side: yes
2 points

What are the alternatives ? Personally i am a pagan and still a christian

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Side: pagan
2 points

Without Christians, alone? No.

Other religions have cause pain, and would probably fill the void.

Side: Of Course Not
2 points

You can say yes. And maybe this world can become better with christians. But you can't say that the nicest religion has the nicest people. The way im thinking is about people and im not trying to focus on religion. People are bad and people are good. If you eliminate the bad people from this world, there will be no more bad things. That does not mean good things will happen because how can you say that good things happen in a world of all good people. It really depends on the person.

Side: Of Course Not
chimchimney(168) Disputed
1 point

You can say that, but Christians aren't nice....they're radical people! -at least...that's what my pastor said once...

Side: Of Course Not
2 points

Not particularly. This will enter the territory of the general debate pertaining to whether the world would be improved without the existence if religion.

Christianity provides a moral basis for millions around the world, in addition to promoting an infrastructure of charity, as well as providing hope for many who are in despair.

Side: Of Course Not
2 points

Ha Ha wow if you say such a thing then everyone will go to Hell if there werent Christians. We have Christians to teach us about Jesus so that we can follow his ways and learn from our mistakes if there werent any Christians then there would be a few people out of the population that would go to Heaven.

Side: Of Course Not

One cannot say what the world would be like without a certain group of peoples; there are too many different outcomes to just one minor decision: how is one to find all the outcomes and deduce whether the world is better off or not to such a gigantic condition as is Christianity?

Side: Of Course Not
1 point

Remove any one group and the world would remain relatively the same. It is human nature that causes the way people live.

Side: Of Course Not
1 point

if cristians shud not exist then other religions shud also not exist...and it will come to this that ppl wont exist......all the religions are the same within in one or the other way... humans are meant for this world...cristians r humans...they r needed!!

Side: Of Course Not

Why do people keep mentioning Christianity? Are you all so obsessed with it?

Side: Of Course Not
1 point

I'm going to say the world would not be a better place without Christians. But when I say that I mean TRUE Christians. Not self righteous, prideful, or "better than you" But those who truly live to Please God and make peace. The Christians that go out and help their community, instead of telling them what their doing wrong. Reaching out to the hurting, instead of convicting them. I think this question should have been worded differently. I'm going to say "Is the world a better place without false Christianity."

Side: Of Course Not

The world would be a better place without people ;)

Side: Of Course Not
1 point

The world would be a better place without people ;)

haha yeah but then what if the animals would get into a fight with each other???? or if the plants and the animals get into a fight with each other???

Side: Of Course Not
1 point

Nah, without them, athiest would have noone to argue with :D

Side: Of Course Not
1 point

The problem with this debate is that it specifically targets one religion. Why not Islam, Judaism and every other religion. So lets just replace "Christians" with religion and go with that.

Since the dawn of human kind, when our ancestors first discovered the killing path with rocks and bones, blood has been spilled in the name of everything, from god, to justice, to psychotic rage. Take god out and you still have many other reasons why people are ignorant and barbaric. Christianity, like most religions out there, try to bring morality to a immoral world. The problems is that when a belief gets big, there will be some people that will twist the belief for their own benefits. Just look up the crusades and you can see all the examples of corruption.

Christianity, like any other religion or belief, is a vehicle of change. Whether that change is for the better or worse is shaped by how the believers interpret and execute the teachings of their texts. Science is great as it is based on trying to find every single detail about everything that can be explored. With science, many advancements have benefited humanity such as medicines and improved agriculture which extended our life expectancy and quality. It also gives the possibility that some theories can be proven wrong. But with great advancements comes the great disasters that are created.

With science, weapons have evolved from stones and bones, to swords and bows, to guns and artillery, to battleships and aircraft carriers. Lets not forget the ICBM which can reign nuclear death from above within 20 minutes or so. With science, we have slowly been destroying earth with the waste and sewage that we have created from our industry.

So what I am trying to say is that religion is not the problem, people are. In order for humanity to survive to meet future that is to come, we must be able to learn from our past successes and failures so that we may repeat the good and avoid the bad. But this never happens because we are not perfect. It doesn't matter if some believe that god exists and some believes that there is no god; we all are ignorant and barbaric to a certain degree.

Side: Of Course Not
1 point

It would be better without religion. The christains are christians because religion exists. If religion was exterminated some of the mindless and barbaric acts would cease to exist too or would take another form. The persons are not bad, they are tought to do bad deeds thats all.

Side: Of Course Not
1 point

It would be better without religion. The christains are christians because religion exists.

yeah we are, in the modern world, getting rid of religion. many people are turning atheists and are trying not to focus on religion in any way.

Side: Of Course Not
1 point

nah!! it wouldn't make any difference if Muslims or Hindus or Jews or Buddhists or any religion is taken off the world because any person doesn't become different because of his or her religion. we are all the same. some people don't want to accept the fact that they are no different from others in any possible way. in fact if we get rid of money then the world would be a better place to live in.

Side: Of Course Not
1 point

If there were no Christians, who would be left for Atheists to ridicule? Buddhists? Preposterous.

Side: Of Course Not
1 point

im a muslim and i do not think the world would be a better place without christians christians are lovely caring people they just believe what they believe like you and me whats the harm of that. when there are no christians the world will just stay exactly the same if there were no christians those of your friends do you think that they will exist anymore would you get those lovely little children singing in the choir or would there be a christmas carol and it is mostly christians who entertain you with music movies shows and other entertainment am i wrong or right? thats a question you should think about.

Side: Of Course Not
1 point

I dont believe in god and i hate holy wars but i think singling out one religion and saying if they are gone the will be better is just un called for. SO no i dont think so.

Side: Of Course Not

The Romans tried to rid the world of Christians and look where that got them. Anyway, if some one wants to get rid of Christians all I have to say is, "Good luck with that" ;)

Side: Of Course Not

Is the world a better place without christians?

No, the world would be a better place without fags.

Side: Of Course Not
1 point

Of course not, what is so bad about Christians. They are not terrorist that try to bomb places all over the world, they are the opposite, helpful, caring and cheerful kind of people. Well, if you see Christians do bad deeds, other people from other religions also do so, we have the nature to sin, none of us are perfect, except God.

Side: Of Course Not
1 point

I was lost in the Darkest parts of my own wicked ways, spiraling down a path of destruction leading me away from His Almighty ways, and all the while im going down ONLY ONE, He could save me. No matter how far i looked on this lowly planet, i never once found a soul who could manage, to show me the love that i truly needed, because on this planet aint nothing but hate and contempt have been breeded. the lowly snake slithering as he goes through the towns of man looking for lowly lowly souls, to feed on so that it could plant it's evil seeds, and so that throughout the generations nothing but evil and hate we could recieve, but those where the ways of the past, my brothers and sisters. the devil had a hold of us and he managed through our parents, down through the generations His ways have been lost, and because of the us, the devil has turned and tossed, We can All be saved, all we need is Thanksgiving, to the One who Above, for All of His Givings. The devils trying to stop me right now as i speak, but Faithful to the Lord and willit He, that i may be meek. Because it is He not i that gives you this message but it is The One that we All should seek. i know that it is hard to find Rest, as we all go through this test some call a game, every single last one of us, probably, training to gain and retain our fame. But That is not what this life is about, i have a Strong feeling that we are All getting our Water from the wrong wrong spout. because thats all the devil has for us is a little bit, of pleasure, then comes the pain. steady feeding our bodies what i see now Is Insane. because ya'll hafto see that we are all carnally minded, and This is the reason The LORD, us he has blinded, binding, ourselves to our own flesh, so that eventually we would All fail this Test. but know that The Lord, He loves us, and wishes nothing but the best, and all He wants is for us to Love Him all the while through this Test. some wonder why we see nadoes and quakes, He needs ya'll to know that its Ya'lls souls that He is trying to shake. and bake if you will, so the devil may not have his fill, to letchya'll know that there is NONE like that ALMIGHTY AND ALL POWERFULL ONE. i say full because Hes filled with Love, like None that we have seen on this lowly earth, but now that i have SEEN, my Eyes have been UnBlinded, and now it is He, He who signs this, letter so maybe that some of Ya'll could listen, and Maybe get the Message that He is trying to dish, out of His spout, so that ya'll might be fed, with all of His Love, His Water, And His Bread. Don't for a second think any of Ya'll are living, All of ya'll are dead and for the devil are you "living" as i sit here and do this all of the "dome" just know that it is Not me and that this is His tomb. He is singing through me in these words and this song, so that maybe one day we All can be free all the day long, and ya'll can say its cheesy if ya'll want, but just know the devil in you he does flaunt x) i had to stop and show ya'll how i felt about that one, cuz its the truth, and right now i have a Strong feeling He is swinging harder than that brother Babe Ruth, or ballin harder than micheal jordan, and in this song he Is Playing His Accordian. Ya'll just need to know that He is our Guardian, and right now im flying Higher than any single air jordan, because my love i gave to Him more than any of Ya'll so i guess i can say more than them. But dont getit twizted like boi's if ya'll know, that me and moreover Him, have a lot to show. we are all brothers and sisters, but i should call us the missers, because we all fail to see the smaller things in this world, without even thinking twice, what truly brings a man alot of happiness or to see the pain that ALOT of us have in us. i know that we are all hurting on the inside, and for ya'll who say we dont, Boi, you know that is a lie, because only with Him and not that evil leech from down south, can we truly fly. higher than the highest of trees or the tallest of mountains, But in Him we Have to trust, so that We may Drink From The One and Only True fountain, only because of Him can i do this for days, and its Because i gave Him my love, thanksgiving, and praise. so now that i have seen what it is truly to be Man, Men of God, all these hater out there who bout to say something aint nuthing more than sod. sorry if it dont make sense, just know that me and Him the latter first, We are just trying to give His children, ya'll some mother lovin cents. forgive me if i pause for no longer am i a vulgar man life is just a beach, and Now, He is playing in the sand, hopefully in the minds of the young, the daughters and sons, i have my holster, and now the Lord is my Gun, Shining Brighter, than a million suns, times two, because His love is True, actually make that twenty twenty, because He is aplenty, in me in you and All, i just hope that ya'll can hear His call, so that maybe that ya'll may not fall, into the Pit, but right now i can say the devil is probably having a fit, of anxiety cuz he is losing his "children" just know that we are God's and with me He has been pilfering, in my mind day and night, as i have been in my room trying to stay out of sight, of ya'll because all it seems like to me, that nothing to ya'll it would please, more, than to see one of your own fellow brother get shot and fall. when i look around me i dont see any real love, this evil surrounds me, but Now i DO NOT CARE, because the Lord, THE LORD, HE has found me. so now ya'll cannot touch, because with His love, im about to bust. with loving Faith and Trust, i put in Him, so that i can be led away from this life of sin, and Now that i have His Trust, my brotha's and sista's, not just the black ones, comeon now, that just is not a must, there is no such thing man, all that is, is nothing more than an evil thought, brought up in vain, so that maybe a man's soul, that leech, can be bought. Quit being evil, for it is Love, that should be sought, out so once again we may be fed from His Spout, for only He can give us what we need so that in the end we may succeed. my brothers and sisters all we need to do is Believe, and then, Anything, together, WE CAN ACHIEVE. this is an ode to ya'll so in hopes once again that ya'll may hear The Call, and will not fall, so one day me, ya'll, and The Almighty,Perfect, like a prefect without the er, Omnipotent, and Patient ONE, that together we May All Ball. and they keep telling me to stop, but i just cant my brothers me and Him are headed to the top, and right now i got The Heart Of A Lion, King, and pray tell me my brothers and sisters who are reading, what single Beast can stop that king? of the jungle we are running but with Him we can be free. out into the open pasture we all can roam, just know this is not me, and that this is His Tomb. its wierd how they're spelled alike but do not rhyme, im talking bout bomb my brothers, and its One of a Kind. in the Hopes that this petty rhyme, can help lead the black sheep, away from the Blind, being themselves, for who? tell me can save them from that? if you dont answer right then your a part of this blight that runs rampant through the streets, evil im talking about and all it wants to do is eat, your souls because it is angry at the Living God, hahahaha for it is nothing more than a sod, on His Cleat as He is Running, Hoping that some of these Words, hit you right in the stomach, and make you sick, but not you, im talking about the evil you, for we are all children of God, but we have made ourselves nothing more than a sod =( i say with a heavy heart, because all this time we have been playing the devil, his part, but with Him it is nothing but a fart, because He Forgives, and Only Through Him may we EVER, get the chance to Live, and im not talking about on the earth, im talking about another, and maybe one day you can see and i can Truly call you my Brother, for there is Life in Death, but it is only gained through this life which is a test, just know that when we die, if you have lived righteously, on that day you will Fly, for the Lord will Breathe His Breath in you when you die and like i said before You Will Fly, but not if you keep eating from the devil's table, for you can only eat from one, and i hope its Not the devil's table. for if we Eat from Him, we can All go back into His Stable, and only in doing that can we Ever truly be stable, only only if, we are eating from, The Living God's Table. and for ya'll who are sitting at your computers steadily dissin Him, i pray for you, because it you are missin, Him and the bigger picture, just know right now im taking a Big Gulp From His Ultimate Pitcher, not one from the MLB, and if you are listening then i pray that you sea, i mean see, but with Him we can fly over the one before, and higher than mike, dunk it in, right for a score, but not for 2 for it is for 3, because He is Holy in me, but atm holy in you, because you missing some parts, we all need to change, so that we may play His Part, that He intended from the Beginning, because only With Him can we ever be winning, but hahahaha not as long as we are sinning. for that is not the way that we was meant to walk, With Him we was mean to Walk and Talk. once again i say this way i, used to, but we choose to live, is insane in the membrane, but He is using me as His Template, lol or templar whichever you prefer, just know that He is Prefect, ha just without the errrr. as i sit here steadily dissin em i mean the demons in the minds of the children of the One and Only, God Who Is Kind, i hope that they depart, so we can All gaze upon The Divine, not like wine or watch, i aint lil wayne, just know that i feel like im the only one who is sane. because i AM NOT PERFECT, do not get the wrong message for that would hurt me, only He is, and He just wants some love from His Kids, but for some odd reason... we still choose to do the evil leeches bids, for i feel he has sucked to much from us, all of our blood, i mean soul, it has tucked from us, and right now He is aiming at it with a Big Ol' Blunderbuss. to shoot it and unleech it, from His Children's Soul's so one day maybe we can gaze upon, That Wonderful City Of Gold, and dont letit peak your in ter ests, for if you do your not getting whats bests, from this test that He has beset, for our minds to ponder and think on, maybe in some of the hearts out there this message is shining, for He is a Beacon of Light, to shine out all the evils, and end this ugly, hateful blight, that courses through our vains, that nasty garbage that makes us feel insane, because no one is living right, and for That NONE is sane. you can talk and sit there and chatter, but i pray and hope that none get fatter, and im not talking because of mcdonalds, im talking about your ego and pride, because We Alll NEED to push that aside, all we seem to do is breed hate and contempt, sitting there looking for another hurt sould to feed on, thinking it makes us content, but just know NOW people, lolol all your doing is letting the devil be your PIMP! ha ha ha i think that really funny, because in the words of man that just makes ya'll some ho's, and please forgive my trespasses my sisters and brothers, for my vulgar words, because i Did Not mean to hurt, He's just trying to keep our faces from being rubbed in the dirt. but it really shouldnt matter because we are mud, and from One we all came, so can i not call ya'll blood??? nah im not talking about them two glock shotta's, im talking bout from The One Who Has Always Got Us, not us as in the navy, i mean us as in the ones who might sit on that bus, the one going to school and to the ones who drool in class, and all of us who needs a kick in the, pause, ya'll know what i mean, im just sitting here trying not be obscene, all im trying to do is get the bigger picture, through ya'll minds so that maybe one day, we can All WALK IN THE LORDS WAY. forgive me if i make any of ya'll mad, if i do know that i Am sad, but how about ya'll just go to the store and go and grab on of them happy hefty bags, you know i meant glad if you didnt you are simple, and forgive me as i sit here and bust this pimple, lol sorry that was nasty just know that i didnt, and know that we are all fake, and its time for some rhino plasty, or however its spelled im just hoping some hearts will melt, like the plastic we are, and become melded into flesh, as i sit here and type in this Soul Food test, for if ya'll can't hear me then your hearts are so cold, forgive me as i trespass, because, uhm, i Am not trying to be bold, im just tryna through some fia atcha hearts, in the hopes that you may leave the Dark, ness not loch just in case thats watchu thought, all you gotta do is leave your flesh behind, and know that He is the one who Should Be Sought, out so we can drank From His Spout, cuz the Lord Knows, man it has been a drought. we are all so thirsty, but in order to be filled its The Lord who must come firsty x) just know that me and Him are going Stooopid, and for those who are real maaan i thoughtchu knew it. and if you dont i pray you haven't already blew it, up i mean your ego, like a balloon, just know right now i feel like taz boi, yup them looney toones, or tunes whichever you prefer, just know that He is Prefect, just without the err. and i say pre because He was always here, yes before you and me, but with Him i wanna letchu know that we can all be as pure, and as white as the snow, just like powder we can all be melted, i mean melded into the beings we were meant to be, so one day we may fly free as a dove, Right over the sea, so that we all can reach New Jerusalem, yup just right where we was all meant to be, that is the Golden City for those who did not, know, im just hoping that one day we can All be as pure as the snow, because the evil has taunted and flaunted and given us a show, to peak i mean perk up our ears and it, that leech i mean, gave us nothing but fears, fears of ourselves and one another, fears from our sisters and daughter, Father, and brothers, but we have a right to Fear the Living God, because to Him we have all become a sod, He is sorrowful and cries as we follow, the evil being, who was never meant to be followed, and i felt His pain at one point in time, yes i Am talking About the Divine, we both cried together, in my room, because of the little things we miss, something just as small as, a heartfelt kiss... for it is the little things that bring us the greatest joy, not some diamond chain, or a, wind up toy, the biggest thing of all that should, is His Love, should bring us the Greatest joy, in the world, for thats all it is man just cars and noise, all the long going our way, Missing the sweetest noise, zes ya'll know what i mean, im talking about the One who is Never obscene, for He is Just And Right, in each and every single way, and for our sins my borhters and sisters, we have to pay, but do not fret for it is never to late, I think we all need to call upon The Divine, and we should All go on a date, do not worry for on this date there is no rape, or murder, or hate, for that is of the devil, and Your Soul it will take, there is no worries once you follow Him, we should all be hand in hand as we walk down this path, called, life Never having to worry about no pain or strife, or for a bigger picture His Wrath, but ONLY IF WE DRINK FROM HIS PITCHER. for The All Powerful and Righteous Wrath, only comes when you stray from His Path, it is there to show us our wrongs...can you feel His Soul as i sit here and Sing His song? and with Him i will NEVER fall, because with my Brother, I will always Hear His Call. i say we but it is Him, who say these words to in the hopes, that those who have an Ear to listen may never Fall, into the Pit, all you have to do is have Faith, Follow The Ten, Believe, and never EVER Quit, for in order to gain His All Perfect and Good Graces, we have to eliminate ALL the Hate and evil, in all sorts of places, i have a feeling this song was wrote long before, just in His mind and now in mine, and i sing His song in the Hopes, that you follow Him and not any of these "popes" for no hope lies in them, lol and if you truly think aboutit that actually rhymed, just know that im thinking of Him, foremost, but ya'll too as i steadily write This Rhyme, it comes from above yup, Straight From the Divine, in the Hopes that one day ya'll can SEE, exactly it was that we was missing, so we can All fly over the sea. Man this thing is long but i should Say God, because this is His Rhyme, and not from a sod, like me or you, if you real you can feel its True, as His Sword aims at the hearts of His good, flying Straight and Through, lol i mean True, but them if you can follow my friend, all we gotta do is sing Praises and Thanksgiving to Him, until the very end, and give Him all of our love, Because WITHOUT HIM, ha There WOULD BE NO LOVE, all there would be is pain and suffering, and i hope that the ones who are, suffer, i mean acating, Might actually stop and take the time to sit there and be debating, against the devil of course, cuz all it wants to do is, lead us, right, or left, but straight off our course. Lord Please Forgive me, if i am being coarse just know that i am your back, and You Are My Horse, lol ya'll might think He's heavy but He's really not, and i Love Him till Death, i mean Life, cuz i have found It, but back to the point, because i HE HAS TAUGHT, never went to church or none of that, maybe when i was younger but none of that, for our minds our are churches, ha gotit backwards but i feel as tall as the burches, talking bout them trees man im over the seas man, just know i cant, wait, My Father, until You Kick Over My Can Man x) aw man i thoughit was funny, because he's One Cool Dude, and i am His, Bunny, i mean Collie, and know that as i, i mean He, but as i bark, that i have a Strong feeling, that i am playing my Part, or His i prefer the latter but the choice is yurs, because it is His Puzzle, and i am the last part, i cant be for certain because the Knowledge is His, but im just trying to bring His Black Sheep back, you know i mean His KIDS, He thoughtit was funny, But ya'll best Believe that He NOR i the first comes first, but neither one of us is No, pause, Dummy, lol but if you choose you can beat and bite, whatever you do just know it is out of spite, and i dont capitilize because its an evil word, just know me and HIM, are trying to end this wrongful blight, and saying these words i Hope that maybe, just maybe some can be given the Sight, that HE intended us to have, right, from Go, talking bout monopoly,lol but no no more, from the start maaaan all HE ever wanted was us to give our heart, which is HIS, because He gave to us, All that is HIS, HE just Wanted someone to talk to man, thats why HE made HIS Kids, HE was all alone, and then HE built, a Beautiful place for us, and HIM, to walk and talk all the while, just laughing and talking, seeing eachother smile =) because HE is our FATHER, He's not as mean ha as ya'll would believe, just know that HE TRULY IS ONE BENEVOLENT KING. lol ha ha i think this is funny, He knows what im talking about, cuz this is all of the top of the dome with barely a second to pause, Just Know the THE LION KING, Has Opened HIS Claws, Blessed be the children who took the time to listen, to the message that a, and The King is steadily dishin, i say a because i am one too, but know that im a servant, and from a Seed i did Grew, i dont care if it makes no sense to ya'll because i have heard the Lords Call, and they, they know who they are, are always listening, and as He types, through, me i have a feeling they are about to call, Prayer is the Best Wireless Connection X) aint no service down here got that type of Connection, i just hope that i get to see some of ya'll at that intersection, i mean Crossroads, bone thugz n harmony, they said it first, man thats the song man and if you feel their soul, then maybe you should hurt, because those bois on the streets back in the day, all they was doing was searching for some Peace, but in the streets, the oppressors, following the devil, have no love for us in the slums, just know that we All have a Holster and God Is our Gun, we dont need no metal, for The Lord our issues HE will settle, all you gotta do is Have some Faith, saying this in hope that some dont see any wraiths, talking demons people come now and please listen, as the Lord spits his song and these Words HE is dishin, out yup you getting it word of mouf, lol or mouth whichever you prefer just DONT follow that lowly snake, yup the one down south, it might try and offer pleasure and happiness butits all fake, HA what do ya'll expect from a lowly snake? remeber eve as she sat under that tree? sitting there thinking and feeling the breeze? the snake spoke in her Ear temptation it did bring, and after teel me WHO did she fear? she had a split second of happiness and thats all it can give, and after that she felt the WRATH which is ONLY HIS, lol i hope that ya'll see, the way we live people, it just wasn't meant to be, i have a feeling that there all up there laughing, with, not at me as i type out His message, and i pray ALMIGHTY FATHER, THE ONES WHO HAVE AN EAR TO LISTEN PLEASE FATHER PLEASE LET THE HEAR. and the ones who dont i pray you dont hit him hard, maybe just a little tap, just like Babe Ruth, on that baseball card x) Peace be with you my sisters and brothers, just know that HIS LOVE IS LIKE NO OTHER, GOD BLESS ALL WHO FINISHED, AND I PRAY YOUR SOULS NEVER, DIMINISH. ONE HEART IS ALL, AND WITH THAT HEART WE CAN NEVER FALL, lol i said i was finished, but i dont think HE is as you can tell this words are not mine, THEY COME FROM THE UPPER BEING, yup THE DIVINE!!! i think im going to cut Him short and please Forgive me, because i know HE could go all day, BECAUSE I CAN FEEL HIM IN ME.

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Even though I have no love for Christianity, and I do believe the world would be better off if religion is abandoned in totality, if we single out one religion, another would just take its place, or the remainder would expand. So no, the specifics would change, but I don't think I can say the world would be "better."

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No. I am an agnostic but i believe that Christians are one of the reasons why we have temporary peace. Approximately 33% of world's population are Christians. As long as Christianity teaches good moral values (well, some values are stupid though), they will continue to make our world better. Just sit back and watch them do the work.

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your comparing us to animals? That is really sad man. Most animals? So their are animals that in your opinion are....cooler then us? WHat the heck does cooler mean anyways? Oh yeah knowledege led us to a better future...... Oh look we have nuclear warfare! so much better! Oh look We have weapons that can wipe out this whole planet and bring us into an ice age! Dude thats so freakin awsume! Oh yeah were learning from our mistakes alright! Hey werent we supposed to pull out of this freakin war in the middle east! but nooooooo we are launching missiles on libia thats solves alot..... Because we gained so much knowledge and learned from our mistakes! If you pay attention to what is really going on and open your eyes to the cruel reality of human nature you would understand how desperate we are in need of a savior.

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I would say no, and here are my reasons:

First, So may people on this site appear to equate Christianity with ignorance and a denial of science. However, how many people truly understand the role of Christendom in the development of science? Issac Newton, Nicolaus Copernicus, Louis Pasteur, and many other scientists did not see a conflict between their faith in God and their scientific endeavors. Few would deny their contributions to scientific and technological progress.

Second, we should not forget the amount of money and volunteer work done by Christians. While atheists also volunteer and help the needy, we should not forget that the precedent was set by Christians who sought to be "good Samiaritans."

Third, the abolition movements in Great Britain and the United States was driven by Christians. William Wilberforce, famous for his work to abolish slavery in England, was driven by his Christian beliefs.

Side: Of Course Not
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Christianity does not need to be destroyed, but rather the people behind it need to be slapped and taught that the basic meaning and god's will is pretty much just one golden rule that everyone knows but ignores.

TREAT OTHERS THE WAY YOU WOULD WANT TO BE TREATED.

THe people behind Christianity are usually insane, over-zealous, ingorant, and things along those lines. What they need is tolerance, and common sense. The minority of Christian people are tolerant, and understand that the world is different than percieved by the bible.

It's not the religion, it's the people.

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No Christians means no America. America wouldn't have started without Christians. The Pilgrims only came here for religious freedom and the founders only came here to teach others the Word of God.

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No... A World will be a better place only if humanity is better. You can eliminate all the religions if you like... That will make zero difference! Cuz it is not the religions with the problem. It is the human mind, The prejudice. Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism are all beautiful religions with different notions and a few controversial believes made a hundred years back owing no validity. There is no point eliminating nothing unless the change is with in!

Side: Of Course Not

Of course not, I am surrpriesed on how close this debate is. Its probebly because perople who think the world a better place without christians look this up more. I hope that everyone has a fairly nice day! Mabey a bad day if you had it coming.

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Plenty of Christians are out helping people and feeding the hungry.

Side: of course not
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Troy8(2431) Disputed
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This website is meant for logical, purposeful arguments. Yours are anything but. So, either use it for what its meant for, or stop.

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