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Debate Score:115
Arguments:110
Total Votes:130
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Is there any chance that you would join the Christian faith?

I'm just wondering, for those who do not have a religion or are apart of another religion other than Christianity, is there a way that you would join Christianity? Is there something not there that you are looking for? Do you not like parts of the bible or have unanswered questions? I would like to know if anyone is willing to share information. All are welcomed to post. 

Yes

Side Score: 54
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No

Side Score: 61
4 points

Brain damage is always a possibility.

Side: Yes

I don't think a Christian would want to damage your brain just to get you to align with God. Do you have any other ways that you may convert or any problems with the faith you see in your eyes?

Side: Yes
1 point

Hy owuy Gnillotr?

Side: Yes
Atrag(5546) Clarified
1 point

With this guy you have to understand that he doesn't mean anything he writes nor does it reflect his personality. It is better not to reply to the content of his arguments.

Side: Yes

I've read your arguments and thought you already had brain damage. Since this isn't the case; What's your excuse?

Side: Yes
ProLogos(2798) Disputed
1 point

I'm not brain damaged I'm just misunderstood. : '(

Side: Yes
Faggitm8(7) Disputed
0 points

Yeah... in your brain . TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

This is a reply to the first post not the post above my name. Just thought Id clear that up... So yeah... dont really know what to say now so ill just sing ooh you touch my tralalala by nightcore...

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh, you touch my tralala,

mmm... my ding ding dong.

la la la la la la la,

la la la la la la,

la la la la la la la.

Oh, you touch my tralala

la la la la la la la,

la la la la la la.

mmm... my ding ding dong.

la la la la la la la,

la la la la la la.

Deep in the night,

i'm looking for some fun,

deep in the night,

i'm looking for some love.

de-de-de-deep in the night,

i'm looking for some fun,

deep in the night,

i'm looking for some (ping)

You tease me,

oh please me,

i want you to be my lovetoy,

come near me, don't fear me,

i just can't get enough of you boy.

Oh, you touch my tralala.

la la la..

mmm, my ding ding dong,

oh you touch my tralala,

mmm, my ding ding dong.

la la la...

Deep in the night,

i'm looking for some fun,

deep in the night,

i'm looking for some love.

you tease me,

oh please me,

i want you to be my lovetoy.

come near me, don't fear me,

i just can't get enough of you boy.

Oh, you touch my tralala.

la la la...

mmm, my ding ding dong.

la la la..

oh, you touch my tralala.

la la la..

mmm, my ding ding dong.

(ding ding dong)

mmm, my ding ding dong

(ding ding dong)

mmm, my ding ding dong

oh, you touch my tralala.

lalala...

mmm, my ding ding dong.

oh, you touch my tralala

(ding ding dong)

oh, you touch my tralala.

mmm, my dïng dong dong.

Side: No
1 point

I'm flatterd. But I don't like bananas with peels.

Side: No
thousandin1(1932) Clarified
1 point

Simply excellent taste in music, it's a shame that this got downvoted. I must promote it. Music video linked. 80's style!

Günther & the Sunshine Girls - Ding Dong Song
Side: Yes
GayLord9074(13) Disputed
0 points

0 no u didn t m9! The minimum argument length is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

The minimum argument length is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

The minimum argument length is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

The minimum argument length is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

The minimum argument length is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

The minimum argument length is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

The minimum argument length is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

The minimum argument length is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

The minimum argument length is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

The minimum argument length is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

The minimum argument length is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

The minimum argument length is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

The minimum argument length is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

The minimum argument length is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

Side: Yes
2 points

Pay me what your pastor makes.

Side: Yes

I don't think our pastor makes a fortune, but enough to support himself, his wife, and three children, along with some commodities.

Side: Yes
1 point

Consider it done.

Side: Yes

There is a chance for everything.

In this case it is a very small chance for me though. Too many things that one is required to believe in that I find unlikely and unrealistic. God, souls, original sin and so on.

But I cannot predict the future. Who knows how I'll feel in 20 years?

Side: Yes

There is a chance for everything.

Well I'm glad that you are open minded.

In this case it is a very small chance for me though. Too many things that one is required to believe in that I find unlikely and unrealistic. God, souls, original sin and so on.

I see, well for me these things sort of came in a bundle. I was raised up in church so it may be much easier for me to believe in them. Of course I don't know your background either and from what I usually see you posting you do know your stuff and have good reasons behind it.

But I cannot predict the future. Who knows how I'll feel in 20 years?

True, and logically I have to say the same for myself.

Side: Yes

Of course I don't know your background either

I was raised to be Christian. My parents' faith waxed and waned, but for several years we were closely involved with our church. My parents, my extended family and the congregation we were a part of were all moderates. We believed that the Bible was not intended to be taken entirely literally. We believed in and were knowledgeable about science. Our church was open and supportive to the homosexual community.

Basically, if I was ever to join a church as an adult, it would be one like that.

But as far as I can remember, I never believed. Maybe when I was really young, but by the time I was 7 or 8, I just couldn't ignore the fact that it all seemed fishy to me. My parents pretty much always told me that I would understand as I got older, but the exact opposite happened. By the time I was in high school, I was smart enough to bring serious contentions regarding the religion, and the answers I was given seemed pretty weak, often like they were dodging the actual question at hand and/or giving non-answers.

Over the intervening years I have had several different "spiritual phases". Agnostic, hard atheist, Buddhist, I was even a wiccan for a brief time. But as I get older, I am more and more on the side that is skeptical of all religions and spirituality in general. I keep my mind open, but I still test what I've been told, and nobody has convinced me of Gods, souls or the specifics of any religion.

Side: Yes
1 point

If presented with sufficient and valid evidence.

Side: Yes

Glad to see that you are at least open minded and not playing around like the people on top.

Side: Yes
Atrag(5546) Disputed
1 point

What would be sufficient evidence for you?

Side: No
1 point

The basic premise of religion is control but if you disregard the full idea that you need to take orders for you to not kill, no dishonor your mom and dad and be a peaceful person then religion is not a bad thing. You see people blame God for 100% of the things that MAN has done. We create war, follow money with blind eyes into a dark alley and then actually have the audacity to say something like "if there is a god, then why is there world hunger?" And all of this with no regard for the collective fault of our own. I don't mean to say that religion fixes everything but more and more everyday we get sucked away from religion and if you look out there today, things don't look so great. Religion is a way for people to congregate, obviously there are a lot of bugs but none as terrible as stablished governments, so why give it such a bad rep? It's like if you were a child and you broke your mom's favorite china plate and you said that it was God's fault for letting it fall and not yours for pushing it over the edge.

Side: Yes
1 point

Very good way to put that, Christians pretty much celebrate God and that he doesn't controls us like puppets, then we blame him for the stuff that we do while we aren't being controlled like puppets.

Side: Yes
4 points

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Side: No
1 point

To be fair, Christianity itself is not fiction. It's an idea or a belief and cannot be proven or disproven.

Side: No
1 point

Just like snow white and the seven dwarfs :D! I completely agree with you!

Side: No
animedude639(1576) Clarified
1 point

meant to clarify sorry

Side: Yes
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
1 point

Christianity is the following of Jesus Christ and Christ did live and die, this is fact not fiction.

Side: Yes
1 point

Your right thewayitis :D! How could I have been so blind. Why didn't I realize it before! That must also mean :O gasp That must also mean sonic the hedgehog exists!!

Side: No
Atrag(5546) Clarified
1 point

How can you dislike fiction? You don't enjoy to read novels or watch movies?

Side: Yes
-1 points

S' a good argument, s' good argument. Yup. YUP YUP YUP YUP. Well Done. Top Kek m8.

Side: No
-3 points
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
1 point

Another dumb ass atheist. The following of Jesus Christ is not fiction, Jesus lived.

Side: Yes
3 points

I don't particularly find this one faith any more convincing than many of its competitors so no.

Side: No

Well, thanks for giving me a legitimate answer. I didn't expect people to start playing around and posting non-sense.

Side: No
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
1 point

Such as the faith you have that atheism is the best ?

Side: Yes
J-Roc77(70) Disputed
1 point

Your heading into well treaded areas. The way you use the word "faith" is an equivocation in this instance. Using the word faith as you have tried is not the same definition I used. For instance you may have faith your parents love you, this is not the same as religious faith.

One uses definition 1, the other 2. The meaning is not interchangeable even if it is the same word.

faith

fāTH/

noun

1.

complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

"this restores one's faith in politicians"

synonyms:trust, belief, confidence, conviction; More

2.

strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

synonyms:religion, church, sect, denomination, (religious) persuasion, (religious) belief, ideology,creed, teaching, doctrine

"she gave her life for her faith"

Past experience with you shows you know this use of the word faith to be fallacious but continue with this reasoning anyway. You have also in the past not looked at evidence presented to you, after you ask for it even.

I have little faith there is any real discussion with you. Which definition of faith am I using now? ;p

Why not have a crack at newer folks who don't know you?

Side: No
2 points

I would like to be Christian. They seem to be on average much happier than atheists. However, it seems so incredibly improbable that some things in the Bible are true (garden of Eden being a good example) that I have to doubt the Bible as a whole's credibility. I can't see how the Christian God is knowable with what tiny information that might actually be true in the Bible. I concede that there might be a God, and sometimes I believe there is, but the Bible doesn't help us know Him.

Another reason there is no chance that I would become a Christian is that I wouldn't want to give his existence the benefit of the doubt, even if there were evidence for it. The Christian God is a malicious being. He doesn't value his followers because they do good but rather simply because they are faithful.

Also, I kind of think that most Christians don't fully believe in God. If my atheists friends and relatives were going to burn in hell for all eternity I just wouldn't be able to live my daily life... i would keep breaking down in tears. How can Christians go around with a smile on their faces?

Side: No
MWNLDkg(16) Clarified
1 point

I want to kind of clear up some things here... I'm Presbyterian, so we are taught to question, not just flat out believe so I may have a few more opinions than most Catholicism or stricter denominations...so I'll list a few things here:

1. Many things in the bible are symbolic including the Garden if Eden Story(Adam and Eve). The bible lists two different stories of creation next to each other, they aren't supposed to be factual.

2. The amount of information about God is something Christians struggle with as well... But the reasons why there isn't much on God, is because

- The people who wrote the bible didn't know much about God either.

- The disciples who probably did know about Him, thought that he was going to come back in their lifetimes

3. Actually our religion is based on this: "Love your neighbor as yourself". We actually believe (I'm not trying to make a generalization, so when I say we, I mean Presbyterians, Lutherans, and other theologically similar faiths) that even people who are not Christian can still go to heaven, atheists included. Judgment is based on the good of a person. To support that, I use the example of a Buddhist in Nepal was born Buddhist, grew up Buddhist, died Buddhist, and was not able to know Christianity through their whole life, they should not be punished for their life, as long as they I'd good unto others... "for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me,

I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.'

Then the righteous will answer him, `Lord, when did we see thee hungry and feed thee, or thirsty and give thee drink?

And when did we see thee a stranger and welcome thee, or naked and clothe thee?

And when did we see thee sick or in prison and visit thee? And the King will answer them, `Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.'" (Matthew 25:31-46)

4. We can go around with smiles on our face knowing that if we do the right thing, or at least try not to do bad things, we will be saved. Which again goes to the point above.

Isn't is better to believe in a God and find out there isn't one than not believe in a God then find out there is one?

Side: Yes

Don't mean to be profane but I would rather excrete in my hands and clap then become a Christian also I couldn't be one because of my sexuality.

Side: No
1 point

Don't mean to be profane but I would rather excrete in my hands and clap then become a Christian

That's actually very profane. I don't see why that was a necessary comparison either, but I can't change that.

I couldn't be one because of my sexuality.

Why do you say that? Are you homosexual? If so our church accepts the gay community and we believe God accepts all people. Sexuality will not prevent you from the grace of God.

Side: Yes
1 point

Why do you say that? Are you homosexual? If so our church accepts the gay community and we believe God accepts all people. Sexuality will not prevent you from the grace of God.

I am Bisexual. It is clear that you're religion hates my kind. Just look at the abomination that is Leviticus 20:13.

Side: No
1 point

There is literally no objective evidence substantiating Christianity. Given the growing body of research that indicates religion is a psycho-social construction, it is quite reasonable to conclude that such evidence does not even exist. Finally, scientific research has established that religiousity is a genetic predisposition; some of us lack it, and I suspect myself among them as I never have believed in any religion or theistic creed.

Side: No
Faggitm8(7) Disputed
3 points

I disagree with you for some reason... I dont really know why I just do so deal with it.

If you need a therapist to deal with my objection I suggest you phone Amy Friedman as she also helped me deal with objection when I was refused love from my mother. I am posting her profile below.

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Counseling Psychology, Psychotherapy, Marriage & Family Therapy

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Side: Yes
1 point

Personally I can't. But I don't see why others can not. I personally can not believe in what the bible says, little alone what church says. To me its just a very twisted, kind of beautiful story. So no, I could not!

Side: No

Could you tell me what's twisted about it? Maybe I could help clear things up?

Side: No

I'm not gonna join a CULT that's responsible for Millions Of Deaths throughout history!!

Side: No
3 points

I guess you could call it a cult, but that holds such a negative stigma. I don't think religion is responsible for millions of deaths. It's the human that chooses what he wants to do with the religion that is responsible. Religion can't literally do much. It's always man at heart that causes pain and suffering.

Side: Yes
1 point

I would say no. There are so many different denominations of Christianity, with different views on things, which makes me think that maybe no one really knows god, and his original ideas. Also since I've found some crazy things in the bible (look up evil bible, it's nuts) I think I'd rather sit on the sidelines and say that I don't know whether god exists.

Side: No
1 point

I see, well the different denominations of Christianity are mere interpretations. All usually follow the same ideal God. That typically remains consistent. I also don't think the bible is evil, but if you wish to show me some stuff maybe I can clear up some of your thoughts.

Side: Yes
1 point

Though I have been part of the Christian faith previously, I think that it is one's own option on what religion, or lack there of, they gravitate toward. Maybe one day I would think about excepting Jesus, but as a gender-fluid and poly-sexual individual, which has been time and time again been beaten upon, verbally and physically, I doubt that I will. I have been given a bad view upon Christianity, not because of judgment, but because they have been the one's to deliberately disregard the Bible and look down at those around them.

Side: No

I see and understand your case. That's quite unfortunate and I give you my dearest apologize. If I may ask is the reason you disregard Christianity because of the way it has treated you in the past?

Side: No
1 point

Not at all, i don't believe in something being an absolute truth for many reasons. Most importantly i know firsthand it's invalid. Another big reason being that i find it odd that anything you can simply say, "hey, i'm now bla bla bla." holds low credibility in terms of it being true. Anything you can simply join, is something that is easily not questioned in depth.

Side: No
1 point

What exactly is invalid? The idea of the human mind that it is autonomous and with the need to be free is not your instinct to rebel against a God but to rebel against the world. Religion is seen as an establishment in a sense that it controls people and it's not a club. If we eliminate the world religion, and we replace it with common sense, then it's not a denomination anymore, it's a way of living. Now a smart-ass came along and said that they could use the name of a God to control people but individually it's irrelevant, YOU decide what common sense is to you, and you use common sense to make SENSE of the world around you. Eliminate the myths and stigma of anecdotes from 3000 years ago and simply see religion is asking you to be a better person, as long as that's all your take away from it, you're doing fine. No need to avoid eating meat, to avoid all sexual pleasure, just be a better person damn it, it's not that hard.

Side: No
Kite626(714) Disputed
1 point

It's common sense for me to not find better of self, through simply joining a religion i simply am better. It's as though you say those who are without religion are bad people. I understand the christian faith, but if you paid attention to the question; "would i join," i state no. Reasoning that an establishment has no way to better human being. You're emotionally involved with your side far too much, to make rational notice of a differing statement. It's not that hard to allow people to be good without joining a bandwagon.

Side: Yes

Highly unlikely, I feel so much more free and joy now that Christianity is out of my life. The only possible way I would return, is if you can somehow prove to me the christian god exists.

Side: No
1 point

Christian belief is of blind faith. They read a book and pick out passages that best to help them in their cause, completely negating any and all passages that contradict their own points. Such as women speaking church, cuckoldry, homosexuality, and various others. It's not a way of bringing people together, it's a way of pushing them away and making themselves feel like the big dogs.

Side: No
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
1 point

Blind faith is believing whatever you believe to be correct, this includes atheism.

Side: Yes