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35
Yes because... No because...
Debate Score:77
Arguments:65
Total Votes:82
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Is this an accurate portrayal of the Christian god?

Yes because...

Side Score: 42
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No because...

Side Score: 35
2 points

there are plenty of wannabe theocrats running for the republican ticket..

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huckabee for one.

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separation of church and state are good for BOTH.

Side: Yes because...
2 points

It is slightly off because it has the person arrested by the police which would be observable.

Side: No because...
Saintnow(3684) Disputed Banned
0 points

This just the same old anti-Christ argument accusing God of not being good in false hope of Hell not being real.

Side: No because...
Cartman(18192) Disputed
4 points

How the hell would you know? You can't even tell when someone presents your own words back to you.

Side: Yes because...
3 points

By the way, to address you lies about me: "The debate is valid, I have offered validations of the fact that God loves you and I invite you to explain why you believe God does not love you. If this is too much of a challenge to be considered acceptable for this site, I would have to say it's a small-minded site, with all due respect."

That is a quote from you, that I quoted to you on your debate.

I would appreciate it if you would stop lying about me now. You can look at the debate and see for yourself that I quoted you.

Side: Yes because...
2 points

Or, you know, people simply have different beliefs.

At least you can't ban everyone here :P

Side: No because...
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

Are you acting like God when you declare me as your enemy?

Side: Yes because...
0 points

This is just the same old anti-God hatred, accusing God of not being good by people who are trying to convince themselves they cannot possibly be left by God to burn in Hell forever. It's nonsense.

Side: No because...
2 points

You have pretty much summed up what God is NOT in favour of: God was Love. God is Love. God will be Love...forever. He is gentle and kind. He does not boast. He wants to be your friend and everyone's friend. I am not writing this to prove you wrong, but because I want you to be saved.

Side: No because...
GenericName(3430) Clarified
5 points

Out of curiosity, how would an entity be all about love if they send people to be tortured for all of eternity if said individual does not praise them?

If he was all about love, why would people need to be "saved"?

Side: Yes because...
Saintnow(3684) Disputed Banned
1 point

Out of curiosity, how would an entity be all about love if they send people to be tortured for all of eternity if said individual does not praise them?

If he was all about love, why would people need to be "saved"?

Side: Yes because...
Saintnow(3684) Disputed Banned
1 point

GenericName(3474) Clarified

Stop lying about reading. Do you really want to go to hell for lying about something as silly as reading philosophy?

Side: Yes because...
Saintnow(3684) Clarified Banned
1 point

Typical anti-theistic rhetoric born of a deep seated ignorance of the nature of God, the deity of Jesus Christ, the nature of forgiveness, atonement, and so on. Very cynical view of Christianity. There is one part of the video which is in fact true based on modernist misuse of the Christianity. The athletes, movie stars etc. who have tons of money, fame, prestige etc.. They should in fact, be giving virtually everything to the poor, save for whatever is necessary for a humble life for themselves and their family. I think the overall Christian message goes over their heads, as much as it does the anti-theists.

Out of curiosity, how would an entity be all about love if they send people to be tortured for all of eternity if said individual does not praise them?

If he was all about love, why would people need to be "saved

Side: Yes because...
Saintnow(3684) Disputed Banned
1 point

GenericName(3474) Banned

This is just the same old anti-God hatred, accusing God of not being good by people who are trying to convince themselves they cannot possibly be left by God to burn in Hell forever. It's nonsense.

By the way, to address you lies about me:

First, this isn't a debate, this is proselytizing.

So go ahead. Take umbrage. Take offense. Act outraged, whilst simultaneously behaving in the most offensive, immature way of anyone on this website............

Are you truly this incapable of responding to the content that people post?

At least you can't ban everyone here :P

I would appreciate it if you would stop lying about me now. You can look at the debate and see for yourself that I quoted you.

Side: Yes because...
Saintnow(3684) Disputed Banned
1 point

You are finally getting it. People wouldn't need to be saved if God was all loving.

God hates sin, we are sinners who are loved by God and need to be saved from our sin.

Let me ask you a question....how did you become so obtuse?

Side: Yes because...
3 points

If God is kind and gentle why does he call for the death of many people in the Old Testament? Also why is he going to send the majority of the people in the world to hell for not believing in Christianity?

Side: Yes because...
Saintnow(3684) Disputed Banned
1 point

Why is God calling for your death? Why are you condemned to die? Do you deserve to die?

Side: No because...
2 points

If God is truly in favor of love, why does he he force those who don't do exactly what he says to a lifetime of eternal torture? They aren't even give a chance to learn from their mistakes.

How can a God who is 'love' and who is 'gentle and kind' force anyone to go to a place of ETERNAL TORTURE.

"I love everyone who does exactly what I say and everyone else can suffer forever." Yep, that sounds like the most forgiving being in the universe to me…

Look, if God existed and was truly as loving as you say, He wouldn't need you to come and change people's mind in order for them to be saved. He would simply make everyone be a good person. Oh, I know what you're going to say, "free will" and all that. But all he's doing instead of changing our minds is having his followers try and change our minds. How is that different?

What you did not do is address any of the points in the video. You simply restated your own opinion. Care to explain why this video is invalid? Or are you so convinced that you are right that no proof, logic or reasoning could ever change any of your thoughts? Because if no proof, logic or reasoning could ever change your thoughts, then you are not mentally well.

Side: Yes because...
RightWing11(40) Disputed
1 point

God loves everyone, even the people who's names do not appear in the Book of Life (see Revelation). But God is so holy, that sin simply cannot exist next to God. Also, people have to make their minds up for themselves, otherwise it is not even love. As for the last part of your comment, I CAN address some of the points in the video. God has actually warned his followers of an evil ruler who will put a chip everyone's head. he says that this ruler is BAD, and even the ANTICHRIST. HE himSELF does not want to do that. However, now I have read the last sentence, it is so abusive that I do not really wish to chat about your comment much more. The truth is, some people's minds cannot be changed, so I will not waste any more time on someone I cannot even see.

Side: No because...
Saintnow(3684) Disputed Banned
1 point

Awwwwww, boo hooo, it's not fair that you are facing suffering in death, poor thing. Now you have proof that God loves you. If God really loved you, why do you have to feel pain?. It's soooooo sad that you feel unloved by God. Boo hoo. It seems so unfair, you don't deserve to die, do you, you're as good or better than God, right?

Side: No because...
Saintnow(3684) Disputed Banned
1 point

Try asking questions like these if you find yourself unable to get out of the fire of Hell. Accusing God of not being good won't make your guilt go away, it won't get you out of the prison of Hell fire.

Side: No because...
1 point

Typical anti-theistic rhetoric born of a deep seated ignorance of the nature of God, the deity of Jesus Christ, the nature of forgiveness, atonement, and so on. Very cynical view of Christianity. There is one part of the video which is in fact true based on modernist misuse of the Christianity. The athletes, movie stars etc. who have tons of money, fame, prestige etc.. They should in fact, be giving virtually everything to the poor, save for whatever is necessary for a humble life for themselves and their family. I think the overall Christian message goes over their heads, as much as it does the anti-theists.

Side: No because...
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

Just because it is cynical doesn't mean it is inaccurate. The video depicts reality. How was it wrong?

Side: Yes because...
stevetc(65) Clarified
1 point

Primarily, it describes the God/Man relationship prior to the incarnation. It doesn't account for Jesus Christ, as far as I can tell. I suppose it could be seen as a semi-valid attack on orthodox Judaism, but how it's supposed to be pointed at Christianity, (save for the athlete and movie star slam), I can't find. I'll watch again. Christ changes everything the video purports about God. Prior to Jesus, man had not experienced God as man to see how God's nature in humanity would play out. Christians are those who follow Christ. We have a different perspective revealed to us about God than the one displayed here. How was it wrong? In every aspect. Every sarchastic statement made. As I said in my original comment, it displays a deep misunderstanding of Christianity. How do I pin point a particular thing? The axioms are off. Axioms are the irreducible truths. They're being looked at from a different world view than legitimate Christians have. If this doesn't answer you, I apologize. It's my best shot without writing a book.

Side: Yes because...
Saintnow(3684) Disputed Banned
1 point

Awwwwww, boo hooo, it's not fair that you are facing suffering in death, poor thing. Now you have proof that God loves you. If God really loved you, why do you have to feel pain?. It's soooooo sad that you feel unloved by God. Boo hoo. It seems so unfair, you don't deserve to die, do you, you're as good or better than God, right?

Side: No because...