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"Islam" Is it Peaceful Religion or terrorist organization ?
In many countries as United states for example lots of people there treat muslims as they are terrorists. They look at them as they are killers and they came to the country for destroying and blowing up buildings or something. After what happened in Iraq americans hated Iraqi people but this hate turn to include all arabs and muslims, why ? no one knows. . The Question now is : Should muslims be treated as they are terrorists or people believe in a Peaceful Religion ?
Islam is a peaceful region as the people in islam doesn't have freedom for everything like girl dunked and shout over the cities or the non muslim shouting over india and women's showing there bodies islam is a peaceful region not just because people believe it.It's because they don't many people don't have even rights to kill anyone in islam not to hurt any person so i believe islam is a peaceful region
According to schools of fiqh which were written around 300 years after the death of Mohammed, the punishment for apostasy is death. However, Mohammed himself was inconsistent in applying this punishment and, according to hadith evidence, only applied in when the apostate also engaged in acts of treason. They were otherwise permitted to leave the religion freely.
Consequently, many contemporary Islamic scholars do not support the classic fiqh position on apostasy. Furthermore, this punishment has seldom being implemented in modern times.
Actually, it's only been applied 4 times in the last 25 years. It's not like exmuslims are really living in fear of their lives. Jim Al-Khalili, the British physicist, doesn't seem to be running around like Chicken Little.
This reminds me a similar thing in Czech Republic where are 300 000 gypsies in 11 000 000 nation, yet they manage to do over 85% of all crimes and over 95% are unemployed and refuses to work. They have horrible reputation so they started a very expensive campaign funded from public money to may look gypsies better. They have somehow found the only two gypsies in our history that managed to get a Uni degree and kept carrying them around whole countries like monkeys in a cage to show ho awesome they are...
If you can provide some evidence to support the claim that he had a small army protecting him; that would be great. I'm just going sit here and wait for that evidence rather than making assumptions.
as all Muslims believe Islam is a true region if people had killed the people who did not believe Islam it would be there mistake why are making the region Islam a terrorist what if anyone comments bad on your region probably you will not like it as i think commenting on others region will only make people fight with each other
If people saying something bad about my religion, I look into it.. and find out for myself it is actually in the book.
But then again, I am just an agnostic who never believe the book full of absurdities. Contradiction here and there along the way inside the book. Some words "Slay them" and some words "Merciful, loving" and a lot of stuff. Really, you should read the koran and bibles and don't blindly say it is peaceful. What the book taught isn't peaceful at all. READ!
In the book, did not exactly guide on how to make peace, but how to stand in the name of ALLAH (and the disbeliever is done for).
But once you are a Muslim, and then you change you mind about Islam, and you want to move out of Islam...you will not be treated peacefully and your fellow Muslim have the right to put a death penalty to you as your way out. No compulsion? Or fully compelled? Ironic?
People should consider them to be a simple religious group. Not the most peaceful nor a terrorist organization because anybody can be a terrorist. Regardless or race, gender, etc. People tend to be more stereotypical due to their environment. Just because a terrorist happens to be Islamic doesn't mean all Islamic people are terrorists.
You don't know what your talking about, Britain had let Northern Ireland run itself for years then the protestants and catholics started fighting and killing each other over religion the northern Irish government could not cope and asked for help so a "peace keeping" force was sent, the IRA fooled a lot of people into believing that they were fighting for freedom and independence but that was bullshit it was all over religion
Actually no, the do not, just look at Carnajevs family, his mother said that he couldn't do so, he is a good boy and tho weeks later records from her taped phones showed up that she actually supported him...
This is ridiculous. No religion is totally peaceful, but it's a damn well closer to that than terrorist organisation. I suppose Christianity is a terrorist organisation because it was Christians who started the KKK, by your logic. And Jews are a terrorist organisation for what they have done to the Palestinians? Wrong, just because a few people of a certain religion do something bad it does not entail that the whole religion is corrupt.
True, you have a good point. Though, there are more terrorist muslims then in the other religions. Yes, most of them aren't killing people. It's when there are many of them that you get more extreamists. Islam has more extreamists then any other religion.
Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.
Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."
Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.
Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').
Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.
Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"
Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-" This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).
Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?
Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.
Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."
Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:293, also). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."
Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."
Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."
Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."
Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars). This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had the power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.
Quran (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."
Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.
Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.
Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"
Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.
Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).
Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that they are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.
Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."
Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."
Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."
Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction." (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).
Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son. (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)
Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"
Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..." "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.
Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter." This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.
Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the truth from their lord. Thus does Allah set forth form men their lessons by similitude. Therefore when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners," Those who reject Allah are to be subdued in battle. The verse goes on to say the only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is in order to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test. "But if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost."
Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"
Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.
Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' in verse 16.
Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way" Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "battle array" meaning war. This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist." (See next verse, below). Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.
Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn - Eternity ['Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success." This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see above). It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.
Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.
see : And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places """whence they drove you out"".
Quran says who trying to kill you defend yourself and kill him .. and if they took you out of your homes take them out.
nothing said to start bad behavior we just react from there behavior if they did something wrong.
also if you read the explanation of these verses you will find that it talk about people who was trying to kill the prophet Mohammed 1800 years ago and not in the present at all ... these like stories in Quran about the past you just can't read a story says ( who is not muslim kill him ) then you say look they kill who is not muslim !!
these are stories from the past ... long time ago and in our Quran now says that Christians are one of us, specialty who believe in god.
Islam as a religion is a peaceful religion, in fact all religions are peaceful. What causes wars between people isn't a religious problem, it's a matter to grasp, and a desire to dominate poor countries. That's if we are talking about what's happening in Palestine for example !
Lets be absolutely clear, we're not a pacifist religion. But the theology of the religion of Islam is far from the violent religion that many neoconservative media outlets would like people to believe.
People I have killed since being a Muslim = 0
Living in a Muslim country as I do, the number of people I have seen killed via sharia law or for reasons pertaining to religion = 0
Yes..they have peaceful behaviour. I've been with Muslim people. Some are peaceful, and some are super proud Muslim. But you need to read their Koran and find out what actually taught in the koran.
They are peaceful...but potentially harmful if they follow what the koran taught them. You really should read the koran to find out what is taught in the koran. And a lot of contradiction too..
Islam is no more peaceful or violent than any other religion, all religions have their good and bad points and their good and bad followers. Just because the press and powers that be have picked Muslims to be the latest bogeyman doesn't make it true. People should open their minds and find out the truth instead of just believing what they are spoonfed by the press
I'm sorry but I'll believe that all religions are just as peaceful as others when Tibetan Buddhists bomb the Chinese like how the Islamics bomb the west even though the Chinese have been much worse to the Tibetans than we have to the Arabs
If I draw a picture of Mohamed and glue it to few place in my city it will end up in TV ...how may people do you think will die because of it? 50,60,70 ...100?
What if I draw Jesus, Buddha or Krishna? How many people you think will die then?
My point is that all viewpoints have bad people. If I hated atheists, I would not be friends with any. It is just as wrong to stereotype Muslims as it is atheists. Just because you find some bad apples does not mean that you need to cut the tree down, come on.
Islam is a peaceful religion. I have been studying comparative religion since I was twelve, and Islam is the first religion I studied. I have read the Quran, and spoken with Muslims. True Muslims are not what the radicals and the media vomit every day. Jihad is an internalized struggle against one's own self and against evil, not blowing shit up.
I have since I posted that, done some reading. I never actually looked into it, I just assumed "It's religion, it must be good." Boy was I wrong. Some of those verses are anything but peaceful, but in the Quran's favour, the bible isn't too peaceful either.
If you want to dispute someone, click dispute or support. My dispute buttin is broke, so I using the support buttin. As for proof,
"And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." Quran (2:191-193)
like the old testement, this in ordering a attack on one enemy and people.since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did).
I saw this before in debates about Islam. Pro-Islam arguments usually being made from accounts created like 10 minutes before posting it's only "argument", usually something like "Islam is religion of peace", "Islam dominates the world" and so. I'm sure that you know what I'm talking about.
I believe that it is a peaceful religion. After thoroughly studying Islam, Islamic Culture, and Islamic literature, I have discovered that it is a beautiful religion! It is often thought that Muslims are terrorists, however this is just a common misconception. The Muslim terrorists you are thinking of are Muslim extremists- a group of Muslims who take their beliefs to a crazy new level- terrorism. All muslims are not to be stereotyped to this group, because they really just believe in a wonderful belief and should be separated from the Muslim extremist group.
excuse me timber113 non Muslims are worst than Muslims they rape women and girls they blast more places than Muslims had done if non Muslims region is free to do every thing it make a blast girl showing there bodies smoking being dunk at least now Muslims don't kill people walking on roads but others for revenge they are even ready to suicide
"Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." 4:74
In the UK there was a case where 90 muslim men raped a 16 year old. They are just as bad as anyone, a few bad people in the religion. Like most religions, there are a few evil people.
Muslims are human just because of people who were shiya Muslims they used to kill people to be a Muslim everybody has a peaceful region around them and all Muslims are not same so you cant say that Muslims are terrorist
if other region are peaceful than Islam OK i will believe that must be some true sense in it but NO ONE CAN SAY ISLAM A TERRORIST every person loves the region so i request be happy with your region don't comment on others
i have respect for all region including Islam so i will never call any region a terrorist but i request to stop commenting on others region but be friendly and pure hearted if you are a nice person your region wont be able to give you a name
the bible says lie about Muslim kill Muslims don't let Muslims live that is why all the people are telling Islam a region of terrorist which is not true
All I can say is if you have not read the Quran and if your basing your opinion on news, mainstream media, and Islam hate sites then you are sadly sadly mistaken when you think Islam is a violent terrorist religion. I am a christian type person and I have studied a little about Islam because I value facts and truth over propaganda and opinion. Just because a few men use religion as a disguise to commit a crime does not in any way indicate a violent religion. Many of us past christian folks, popes, kings and peasant alike have all embarked on evil missions in the name of religion. This in no way makes a religion violent or terrorists. Only the "people" can commit violent crimes and if they happen to worship a particular religion that in no way indicates the religion is violent. Sort of like I am fat and I actually blame the table spoon on that. I didn't eat to much, no the stupid spoon made me fat along with its buddies the knife and fork. Religion is no different, people will always use good for evil and will always try to blame someone or something for everything, but they will pay for it in the end. I recommend if anyone is a true debater that you read the Quran before you make your decisions based on propaganda, television, and other unreliable sources. I see not many folks posting any references and this tells me that most of these comments 90% are just based on personal opinion obtained in who knows what way and from who knows where. It is important to use rationale and the common sense and brain that GOD or NATURE gave us. To many times debates are nothing more than personal opinion. I try to post facts and here is my references showing Islam as a peaceful religion.
Quran 8:61
"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things)."
Quran 15:2-3
"Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them)."
Just a few verses among many that point to a peaceful Islam, this peaceful religion has no way of forcing a man or woman to do right. People will still kill and murder for whatever reasons. If a christian marries a muslim and then the christian father shoots the muslim for marrying his christian daughter due to different faith, does that make christianity evil? Certainly not, and that analogy can be applied to Islam as well.
I cannot believe this! Right when I finally go mad and declare where I live my own nation anyone of any faith but Islam shall be treated as terrorists! just because there are so many people who treat them like terrorists!
Real fucking Muslims are peaceful at least but most terrorists seem to be Muslim and as a result conservatives put the propaganda that Islam is terrorist organization when in reality most Muslims are very peaceful! LOL
Islam isn't a terrorist organization. The people who are terrorists are extremely religious and think that there is a god that is telling them to do these things.
you can't make a generalization on all Muslims for something only a few have done. I've known muslims and had muslim friends and they didn't want to blow up america.
there is a non Muslim aunty in my neighborhood i always talk sweetly with her but she never replies once when i had leaned to bake and i became an expert then i send a chocolate cake for her i took two hours making it and when i gave it to her she took it later i saw she thew it in the dustbin i was hurted when i went to do something good for her she did not accept does being sweet and peaceful with non Muslims only give Muslims this result??? if anyone have a proper ans then ans
No it is a something that all religions have in them and it it is because most are afraid of something different. I have many times been hurt in the same way and I was simply being nice to non believers as GOD has instructed all of us to do. Tashastar it is not just Muslim that gets the cold shoulder. Basically there are those who do not believe, and they will scorn us and try to ridicule us at every turn and every way. You keep doing what is right even if you are the only one doing right. You will be rewarded in the end so never ever stop being kind, set the example GOD wants us to set and GOD will look upon you with favor and repay you for your kindness. I wish I had recieved your cake I am not a muslim but I would have been so happy and thankful and that is how friendships are started through acts of kindness. Keep up your kind thoughts and ways.
Some people are just bigots you made an effort and she regected it I wouldn't worry not everyone thinks like that but unfortunately the ones that do are the ones whose minds you are least likely to change
Tashastar. I experienced the same with both Muslim and non Muslim. But i know why Muslim reject food I gave them. They treat it as "filthy" or "dirty" even if I didn't put anything in it. But they say there must some trace of swine in there or something regarded as "haram".
Islam is a blast from past. It's not just a religion it's a sociopolitical system designed to be warlords tool, It's dysfunctional, obsolete and really cruel.
Just look at resume of it's inventor, psychopathic mass murder and pedophile, he was pretty much 7th century equivalent for Adolf Hitler.
"...a sociopolitical system designed to be warlords tool..."
Aren't all religions? Aren't they all just an easy way to control the masses? Oh but of course all other religions are wrong apart from the one you follow.
I'm not religious but if you look at Mohamed you can clearly see that Islam is a mixture of all religions that he knew and he put himself in front of it, quite similar person to Adolf Hitler.
Christianity is based on story about homeless hippie carpenter who did some tricks,there is no legal system in it.
i personally think a religion is defined by the majority of the followers' actions. If majority of Muslims were bombing the place and supporting terrorism, i would agree. But fortunately I have not seen anything as that yet.
40% of universiy students in the UK who claim to be Muslims want's Sharia law and thinks that killing for Islam is OK same as killing those who decide to leave Islam. These are the most educated ones and had no problem to speak openly in front of other students, real number will be higher also vast majority of Muslims are completely illiterate drones so I'm not afraid to say that those freaky ones has majority.
Can you explain how 40% constitutes a majority? As a physicist, I think it might be reasonable to expect you have some understanding of basic math. 40% is LESS THAN 51%. Therefore, it's a MINORITY.
40% publicly said so in Uni libraries in front of non Muslim majority staring at them. So I think that there is a good chance that a good number of them said something more civilized to look more like a humans from 21st century rather than what they actually are.
Also you are skipping the little thing that the census has been done between educated and rich people. Majority of Muslims lives in third world with none or very poor education, usually based on memorizing Quran. Less educated people tends to be more religious so if 40%+ of educated Muslims are freaks the overall number will be definitely 51%+
That survey was done by the Daily Mail which is a newspaper notorious for racism and bullshit, in that survey the students where asked leading questions to rig the results.
"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." 9:29
The majority of infamous Islamist you know of are terrorist, yet if you would look outside of your bubble and meet some regular everyday people, you'd see that the actual majority, the ones that are not in the spotlight, are very loyal to their religion's rules and they actually don't blow things up.
Yes, if the actually follow what is taught in the Koran, this world is more than just a nightmare full of suicide bomber. If they actually follow fully what is taught in the koran, they are the worst beast and the last beast any non-muslim don't want to encounter.
These are few lines that promote violence...they never promote peace at all.. they love war!!! settle things with war!! See for yourself this few lines (more if you read the koran)
2:216 Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not.
Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."
Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."
Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."
Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."
They refer it as disbeliever. Not people who attacked them! Disbeliever in general....all non muslim.
I agree, Islam preaches much tolerance for non believers, for they will be punished by GOD.
Quran 15:2-3
"Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them)."
Yeah.. But the koran say a different thing (yeah, I did read the koran).
And yeah, freedom for everyone.. but then they saw all the non-muslim as worst of all creature, and all non-muslim (no matter what he believe in, good or bad he is as a person) are considered to be placed in hell torture.
I guess you yourself a muslim who never read the koran. READ!
The interesting thing in your quote is that unbelievers will be placed in hell are there not large parts of the Bible that talk about unbelievers going to hell, there are Christians on this site who believe non Christians will be going to hell what's the difference?
The Bible is just the same fraud book...they are the same absurd myth book. They have similar cruelty in the Book. I don't believe in both book. They are almost the same. like Koran is just another modified or amplified copy of Bibles.
And the fact that mostly suicide bomber are Muslims. Killing in the name of GOD is Muslim.
I am not blind to the fact that not all Muslim are terrorist. They are nice. I've been a friend with some of them, and some of them are quite nice and a good friend. I appreciate their kindness, and I don't want to downgrade them as a person. I love others as a fellow living human. And I appreciate life...
But my view on the Bible or Koran is a different matter.
Are all Muslims terrorists? Absolutely not and I would never assert that they all are. Sadly, they DO all have the potential to be simply based off what the religion teaches. The only thing that separates the terrorist Muslims from the peacefull ones is location. The Middle East is a psychopathic theocratic warzone and the US Muslim areas are not. Why? Because the Islam of the civilized world is a neutered Islam. Just like Christianity that, if practiced literally, would resemble Islam like a mirror image.
Islam is absolutely NOT the religion of peace by any means. It's a horribly immoral tool used by the strong to manipulate the brainwashed minds of the weak. It's trash through and through.
I respect your opinion, but in my point of view I don't assert the last part of your argument. see, as you said Islam and Christianity are a neutered religions, depends on the location in each community, you don't see Muslims killing foreigners, nor the opposite. The thing that has made a bad reputation about Islam are the people who did killed Non-believers, and many others used that hurrying conduct in the name of Islam just to make it sound UN peaceful.
I don't blame you for having that thought about Muslims, because even in between us we doubt each other due to many liars and fakers who claim bad manners by the name of Islam.
One thing I have for you, is that not all Christians though have the same thoughts or same believes, and by that I can't judge Christianity by the people who present it I judge the book they believe in and the real roots of your religion.
Tbh I don't really think that it is a "Terrorist Organization" but I just think it is much closer to that than a peaceful religion, that is the last thing it is. Sikhism and Jainism are peaceful religions Buddhism is a Peaceful religion, Hinduism is a peaceful religion but a Homophobic, sexist religion that hates all non-believers like Islam is the last thing to be called peaceful.
I don't want to say it is a terrorist religion, comes from my experienced with muslim, they are actually nice. BUT!! When I read the Koran.....the are some part in the Koran allowing killing/torturing the non-believer! Non-believer are seen as the worst of all creature! filthy and dirty!
see the majority of non-Muslims think alike, I'm not saying it's wrong but people got the right to show up their idea on what they actually see. In the Qura'an it was said to kill who ever tries to kill you. You can't read a book just like that you need to chick your resource first, plus Islam gave every human being the freedom to chosen their religion. what Non-believers as you say are filthy and dirty to Muslims is a wrong info I believe, because you are a human like I am. I don't believe that all people from your religion got the right aim of your religion, Islam is 100% likewise, people understand the Qura'an very wrong and started claiming that it's Islam. Don't judge the religion, by any person you see or says, in fact Islam and our prophet aimed to teach us that their is no difference between all of us humans, the only deference is that each of us choose a different road.
There are many, I can't cover them all..but these are few lines that promote violence...they never promote peace at all.. they love war!!! settle things with war!
2:216 Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not.
Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."
Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."
Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."
Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."
They refer it as disbeliever. Not people who attacked them! Disbeliever in general....all non muslim.
There are many, I can't cover them all..but these are few lines that promote violence...they never promote peace at all.. they love war!!! settle things with war!
2:216 Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not.
Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."
Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."
Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."
Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."
Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.
Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.
Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"
In schools teachers teach that it's peaceful but once you start doing research on it I found out that its not peaceful. The reason being is because they kill non believers or people who don't believe in their god.
Well I have found out that they do kill non-believers if you are against what they believe especially in very conservative Muslim countries like Iran and Iraq.
no, not all other religions do, and even if they did, 80-90% of terrorism in the world today is done in the name of Islam. Do me a favour, name one country with an Islamic government that is peaceful.
no, thats just the part you want us to know about. Let me tell that to my friend whose father was stabbed by Muslims because he was a pastor, that is real Islam because it happens everywhere everyday.
One country is all I want. One country with a traditional Islamic government that does not kill women for being raped, kill Christians for rejecting Islam, or do anything else that denies basic human rights. Give me one peaceful country under an Islamic ruler and I'll be happy.
As I cannot say it is a religion of peace, I have to choose this side of the debate. I don't view it as a terrorist organization either. It is a religion of war, plain and simple. Convert or die. This is how it's always been since it's conception. It's a pretty effective way of controlling soldiers, I suppose. A soldier fights harder and longer if it's for his 'god', especially if he gets a reward for falling in battle.
Islam never asked to kill non Muslims people .... the root of the word "Islam" in Arabic means "peace" and give me one prove that Islam kills non Muslims !!
You see, they atart out peaceful is small numbers. If a nation is mostly muslim the government become Islamic and that's when it get REALLY bad. Then they hate America and try to kill nonmuslims.
Religion is a CULT that can influence people and make them do terrible things.
Witch burnings, jihad, bombs, murder, rape, sexism, homophobia and other horrible things are ALL associated with religion, and ALL associated with Islam.
Does this question REALLY need to be asked? check out the global news and you'll get your answer.
The Quran says "it is obligatory to lie if the cause is obligatory" which pretty much means Muslims lie to get what they want, of coarse they'll tell you they are peaceful untill they come with AK's and demand Islamic, gender suppresic laws.
"Christians have been just as bad" oh really? When? And if the only thing you can answer the crusades, that was a war started by Muslims, and so-called Christians fought back
Whether or not the Muslims started it, the Catholics prolonged it. I think there was something like 3 or 4 different Crusades, all started by the Church. So saying the Christians had nothing to do with it... well you might be right. No real Christian would start a war. And I've had my doubts about the Catholic Church for a long, long time.
I wouldnt disagree with a whole lot of what you said. However, I dont consider people who do thing contrary to the Bible but in the name of the church Christian.
