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Islam encourages violence

Islam claims to be the religion of peace. But is it? Most if not all terrorists in the world are muslims, which obviously says something.

“The Last Hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews. The Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: ‘Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him;’ but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.”
(Sahih Muslim, Kitab al-Fitan wa Ashrat as-Sa'ah, Book 41, 6985)

“So that Jews will hide behind trees and the tree will say “Muslim! The servant of Allah! Come, look there is a Jew behind me, he hid here, behind me, come and punish him”. Only the tree Gharqad will not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.”
(Kitab al-Fitan, hadith. 2239)


These two quotes from the koran support violence against jews for example. Yet the word 'islam' means peace. So what's going on here?

Yes it does

Side Score: 73
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No it doesn't

Side Score: 80
3 points

Yes it dose the Quran is over flowing withe verses just like the ones you have listed and let's not forget the Muslims launched an invasion of Europe long before the crusades ever took plaice and the crusades themselves where a response to a Muslim invasion of Christian lands. And that violence continues to this day for proof simply look at the Middle East.

Side: Yes it does
mrrighteous(4) Disputed
4 points

If so please do name them all in alphabetical order:

Also the crusades/jihad was not against Christianity but for territorial reasons, Al-Andulus modern day Spain accepted the Muslim army with open arms on their arrival, the crusades help unite the christian world AND it was also the thing that forced people to trade and gave birth to the Renascence. Everything that happens does so for a reasons, I do not attempt to look into God's mind: I simply trust and keep faith.

were it not for the birth of islam jews might have gone extinct and the christian world would have required something else to push it out of the dark ages and back on it's feet. You really should search the net for my arguments, and try to get an overall view. I can understand your feelings and slight xenophobia but you must remember that you being and intelligent thinking being can and ought to put yourself in other people's shoes (how would you a Muslim feel about what you think?) I am not a great historrian and I haven't learnt the bible, quran and torah page for page, i'm not even a monk priest, Rabbi nor mullah but I do know the basic facts about humanity.

Side: No it doesn't
Anthonyhook(178) Disputed
1 point

The jews will never go extinct because God promised Abraham they would always be.

The dark ages ended because the bible was printed in the langualge that everyman could read.

Side: Yes it does
ZaidTheBoss(94) Disputed
1 point

then what is palestine doing to gaza is that fair if today i kill and take away everything

what would you do

sit under at tree and meditate

or

take revenge

those in favour vote for islams innocence

Side: No it doesn't
3 points

So does Christianity though. Look at the Crusades .

Side: Yes it does
2 points

Actually Islam means the way in Arabic. If it meant peace well that would just be ironic.

Side: Yes it does
5 points

Actually, it means submission, Not trying to be rude, just helping.

Side: Yes it does
warrior(1854) Disputed
2 points

Oh right I knew it was something like that thanks. Oh and uh sorry I know you don't like the hate on Muslims I'm just saying it has an undeniably violent history and certain verses are sketchy that's all I know their are good peaceful Muslims out there as well.

Side: Yes it does
mrrighteous(4) Clarified
2 points

That's Muslim. Muslim means Submission to God. write the full meaning don't crop stuff!!

Side: Yes it does
2 points

muslims will have these tendencies to think narrowminded and as a consequence make grave misconceptions.

Side: Yes it does
charlesisboz(9) Disputed
1 point

Right, so does Christianity. Just remembered. Please do not over generalize. Just think about what us "god fearing people" have done to the muslim world, ever sine the 11th century.

Side: No it doesn't
2 points

There are also many other verse's that have a lot of violence in the Quran as well.

Side: Yes it does
charlesisboz(9) Disputed
1 point

The Quran, like the bible, is not usually taking literally by most Muslim. The bible contains just as many anti-Jewish phrases in it as the Quran.

Side: No it doesn't
Taqwacore(668) Disputed
2 points

Frontpage? Hahaha!

Why don't you use Stormfront?

Those right-wing neo-nazi sites are just so reliable.

Side: No it doesn't
1 point

Because of the cultural and religious indoctrination, muslims will have these tendencies to think narrowminded and as a consequence make grave misconceptions about reality, they are often resourceless and live by adhering to primitive ideologies, which makes up a primitive society, so the impulses to commit violence is far higher than in comparison to the westernized societies.

Side: Yes it does

Show me one anti jewish verse in the bible. Look at it in context and it will not be anti jewish.

Side: Yes it does
1 point

Islam was founded by psychopathic mass murderer who begun more than 20 wars. He just made mix of all religions he knew an put himself in the from of it. Islam is just a war tool...

If you look on any system based on it, it is always horrible place to live in.

Side: Yes it does

The emphasis is on Sharia Law which calls for the execution of Gays.

Side: Yes it does
5 points

So does Christianity and Judaism .

Side: No it doesn't
kaveri(319) Disputed
2 points

not so much as Islam... if you look on violence distribution in countries by religions you see that those under Islam are usually horrible shit-holes.

Side: Yes it does
jonnya380(7) Disputed
1 point

christianity is more complicated here. they've had the spanish inquisition and the crusades. who knows how many people died because of christians. muslims spread through conquest and forced conversion, most of the time. also violent means. I dont believe there is any case in jewish history of violence or war other than for self defense.

Side: Yes it does
Sitara(11080) Disputed
5 points

So has the Catholic church. No offense to my dear friend Warrior.

Side: No it doesn't
Taqwacore(668) Disputed
2 points

"muslims spread through conquest and forced conversion, most of the time"

"Most of the time" is incorrect. Islam spread by trade "most of the time" and by conquest only "some" of the time. I'm not sure how big or small the "some" is; but it's less than trade; trade being the major means of Islam being spread.

And "forced conversions" doesn't seem to hold true either as there's no actual credible historical evidence of this.

Side: No it doesn't
warrior(1854) Disputed
-2 points
warrior(1854) Disputed
0 points

True as that is violence is not encouraged as much in the Torah or the bible as it is in the Quran. Though ill admit the violence is there in both cases.

Side: Yes it does
mrrighteous(4) Disputed
0 points

Where do you base said "fact"

by count tell how many times the Quran promotes people to commit murder or kill people whichever you prefer, then compare it to other books. PROVE YOUR STATEMENTS

Side: No it doesn't
4 points

To be muslim means to live peacfully, do not judge muslims by seeing its one bad side. We are people and we all do mistakes; there is no ideal man! You do wrong things too.First, look at yourself in the mirror, look through your own history. Do not follow the hearsays. Not Islam and not Christianity or Jews encourages violence: there are only groups of people who do these things by hiding behind the religion. If you do not believe me, come to muslim countries and see who we are in the real case!

Side: No it doesn't
vilify(67) Disputed
2 points

Muslims are people who are indoctrinated by a fascist ideology. The holy book the quran can be interpreted by a whole array of different disciplines. There are some basic methods of interpreting information that when you are to be real, honest and clear, can be only interpreted litterally. Some verses in the quran clearly states to commit violence against infidels and apostasies, stoning for adultery, cutting of limbs for crimes, suppressing of women these are actual absolute truths and laws, which are promulgated by those who adhere to the sharia law. Because of the cultural and religious indoctrination, muslims will have these tendencies to think narrowminded and as a consequence make grave misconceptions about reality, they are often resourceless and live by adhering to primitive ideologies, which makes up a primitive society, so the impulses to commit violence is far more probable and higher to occur than in comparison to the westernized societies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxjBjRnhUqA

Side: Yes it does
Taqwacore(668) Disputed
1 point

I don't think you know what the word "fascist" means.

Sam Harris is just a racist little cunt and a hypocrite. The guy makes a fortune selling books claiming to be an atheist; but he believes in the Hindu gods. And some people are gullible enough to believe him.

Side: No it doesn't
4 points

"Most if not all terrorists in the world are muslims, which obviously says something."

Well, this is factually incorrect. 94% of terrorists are non-Muslims. See attached article for source evidence.

Side: No it doesn't
2 points

Your study counts every small act of arson and vandalism as terrorism. The vast number of the incidents on that list were arson and vandalism... not exactly the kind of terrorism we're talking about. If the 9/11 terrorists had decided to spray-paint "AMERICA SUX!!" on the twin towers instead of blowing them up with planes full of living human beings, we probably wouldn't remember them as the 9/11 terrorists and would in fact probably not remember them at all. Because minor acts of arson shouldn't be counted as terrorism, like your study does in order to water down the percentage of Muslim terrorists.

On a similar note, it's worth finding out what each group is doing, too. Your evidence, for example, counts the Animal Liberation Front as a terrorist group when really the organization has never harmed a living being, only destroyed and defaced a negligible amount of property. If you count every time a hippie tags the side of a building as equal to a religious fanatic making and using an explosive to kill dozens of people, then yeah, Muslims make up a very small percentage of terrorists. If you use the term "terrorism" how most people think of and use it, you'll find Muslims account for a much larger portion of the terrorist totals.

Side: Yes it does
Taqwacore(668) Disputed
2 points

The study counts arson and vandalism as terrorism because they fit the legally and internationally used definition of terrorism. I think you're making the logical fallacy of seeking a customized definition to suite your argument, a form of cherrypicking.

Side: No it doesn't
4 points

If you take anything literally, it can encourage violence.

Side: No it doesn't
4 points

all religions have bad and good sides...for some reason all you people see here are the bad sides of islam...focus on it, and attack it forgetting all the other good sides of it. stop judging this religion based on what you interpret! islam does not encourage violence....it is a religion like many other religions, has good and bad sides so do not ignore the good sides of it and only show the bad ones.

Side: No it doesn't
3 points

The main Question which states that the two excerpts are FROM the Quran are WRONG!!! They clearly state the names of the books from which they have been taken below neither is the Quran. A hadith is a book that was written after the death of the prophet by people who may have never met him in person, not all Muslims accept every hadith (since many different people wrote many different hadiths) to be accurate or true some may even be forgeries. another thing to note is that the thingy about the Jews refers to those Jews who had betrayed the treaty forged between the muslims and Jews by helping the Pagan polythiests in harming them.

Fuethr more Islam in itself not the people who follow but the IDEAL in itself heavilly encourages people muslims to live in love and harmony with their abrahmic brothers( the wise people of the book) one can't blame a religion or an entire community for the violent deranged actions of a few. further more the statement in the debate question above doesn't hold true especially for within the states 97% of in America terrorist attacks are from non-muslims.

muslims are the only ones as far as I know who venerate older prophets by placing the phrase "alais salaam" after their names which basically means " may god ever take care of them"

The idea people have in their minds about muslims hating jes=ws is also mistaken, they don't cause they can't. Prophet Moses is mentioned the most within the quran then any other!!! Islma happens to be the 2nd most largest religion in the world and to any senseible person christianities ally not enemy. killing all muslims in the world would leave a very huge dent in the worlds population.

muslims are also responsible for most of the scientific theories and advanses that we enjoy in our lives, many word in english are derived from arabic too.

Making people your enemy is dumb. like Abraham Lincoln said the best way to get rid of an enemy is to make him your friend. don't hate other people and don't use false statistics to propogandaficate them ( that's a fake made up word.)

Side: No it doesn't
warrior(1854) Disputed
1 point

the hadiths are still muslem holy books. so we clearlly have muslem holy books ecouraging violence agains the jews (it just says jews it dosent say these jews that did this it just says jews) but not supprising comeing foma religion with more conections to terrorism than frank sanatra had to the mob

Side: Yes it does
TheAshman(2299) Disputed
2 points

Apart from a some extremist immams you have yet to prove any real links with mainstream Islam and Terrorism, there were a lot of Catholic Priests who supported the IRA so using the same argument its a bit hypocritical of you to accuse Islam of doing something wrong when you are a member of a religion which has supported Terrorism for years

Side: No it doesn't
2 points

The ruling ideas are those of the ruling class.

Islam is no more violent than other religions have historically been when they had similar economic and political systems to reside in.

I expect Islam to become more liberal as liberalism takes a greater root in countries with many Muslims, the trick is to make liberalism seem something other than imperialism.

Which won't mean that it will be less violent, Christianity isn't really less violent, but it will find a form which current western society would find less issue with.

Side: No it doesn't
1 point

then what is palestine doing to gaza is that fair if today i kill and take away everything

what would you do

sit under at tree and meditate

or

take revenge

those in favour vote for islams innocence

Side: No it doesn't
1 point

then what is palestine doing to gaza is that fair if today i kill and take away everything

what would you do

sit under at tree and meditate

or

take revenge

those in favour vote for islams innocence

Side: No it doesn't
1 point

then what is palestine doing to gaza is that fair if today i kill and take away everything

what would you do

sit under at tree and meditate

or

take revenge

those in favour vote for islams innocence

Side: No it doesn't
1 point

then what is palestine doing to gaza is that fair if today i kill and take away everything

what would you do

sit under at tree and meditate

or

take revenge

those in favour vote for islams innocence

Side: No it doesn't
1 point

then what is palestine doing to gaza is that fair if today i kill and take away everything

what would you do

sit under at tree and meditate

or

take revenge

those in favour vote for islams innocence

Side: No it doesn't
1 point

then what is palestine doing to gaza is that fair if today i kill and take away everything

what would you do

sit under at tree and meditate

or

take revenge

those in favour vote for islams innocence

Side: No it doesn't
1 point

Islam doesnot encourage violence nor will it ever try. Muslims fight only when there's a cause to do so as many of the Quran's verses show. People who misunderstand what the verses actually mean are misguided.

Side: No it doesn't