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Islam is the religion of peace

Whenever someone points out the pitfalls of Islam, one can count on being accused of being so unbeliveably out of touch that they have not bought in to the phrase "Islam is the religion of peace." Just what exactly is that supposed to mean? Is it true? What are the implications for immigration and foreign policy? I lookforward to debating someone. 

Yes, it is

Side Score: 23
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No, it is not

Side Score: 42

exactly how many muslims were killled by christians during the iraq invasion? 500,000....1 million? and what did those people do to deserve it?

american christian military muppets were very peaceful im sure...can you say "shock and awe"?

"mission accomplished"....what exactly was that mission anyways?

god bless america

another "peaceful" christian
Side: Yes, it is
AngryGenX(463) Disputed
2 points

108,000. Kind of pales in comparison to the 1 million people Saddam had killed until Bush had the guts to take him out. Also keep in mind, most of those Iraqis killed in OIF were killed by other muslims in a civil war western troops were trying to stop from happening.... Kind of backs up my side.

Side: No, it is not
westernslave(695) Clarified
1 point

108,000? was that in the final halliburton/kbr report? saddam killed 1 million? who told you that....the same people saying 6 million jews were killed during ww2? most of the iraqi's were killed by iraqi's? lol sure....i guess the american troops were too busy guarding the oil fields.

the cross avi of yours backs up what a fucknut you really are...

Side: Yes, it is
1 point

Bush is a lying war criminal. .

Side: Yes, it is
Mrmetsanchez(17) Disputed
1 point

We went to Iraq for no reason, look we kill more people in the USA in one year than Saddam did in his reign

Side: Yes, it is
Stickers(1037) Disputed
2 points

exactly how many muslims were killled by christians during the iraq invasion? 500,000....1 million? and what did those people do to deserve it?

american christian military muppets were very peaceful im sure...can you say "shock and awe"?

Aaaaaaand your logical fallacy is

ikr?!! DAE hate funDIES???!! xD

But seriously, a group of Christians being wrathful does not make Islam "le religion of peace!!!!! xD". Once again you're just using this debate as an excuse to spew more of your ostentatious, hateful bile.

Side: No, it is not
2 points

Islam is an Arabic word meaning PEACE.. Don't blame Islam for some ignorant actions that may have been done by A MUSLIM but that doesn't mean every other Muslim is the same!! Real Muslims who follow every command that Allah had given them are very peaceful , You can't be a muslim until you love for others what you love for you.. You have to be nice to everyone even enemies!!... If you're looking at it from that perspective, then lets take Burma as an example, Judaism; what's happening in Palestine is not humanity!! I believe it's just ignorant to judge a religion of 1.5 billion population by the actions of what doesn't exceed 5%!

Side: Yes, it is

True words here, i study Islam but im a christian and i love the religion, trust me the most people that have killed others are christians

Side: Yes, it is
Mathlete(153) Disputed
1 point

Islam means surrender .

Side: No, it is not
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how bout that "religion of peace" .... http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks .... we should all be so peaceful ... lol

Side: Yes, it is

Google "Jihad".

Side: No, it is not

Jainism is the true religion of peace whereas Islam is the least peaceful out of the surviving religions. There are violent Quran verses and Islam was founded by a violent man who commanded an army and did violent acts.

Side: No, it is not
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Interesting. I do not know a lot about Jainism. I am a Cristian, but I have always thought many eastern religions have found the same truths about humanity that are taught by Jesus through focus and philosophy.

Side: No, it is not
1 point

Islam feels like the religion of extremism!

Side: No, it is not
zephyr20x6(2385) Clarified
0 points

Keep in mind that might have a lot to do with the fact that we live in the western world, that despises the middle east and that particular religion, and thus we are influenced that way. Another thing to keep in mind is a lot of islamic dominated countries are theocracies, so they are more ruled by their religions than we are. Islam can be interpreted as a very peaceful religion just as Christianity, or Catholicism is. Religion does effect our government to, and typically when it does it is usually hardly ever a good thing, that is why have the separation of church and state. To a country with an arguably more lax religion (maybe buddhism) they might see Christianity as the religion of extremism, or countries that are dominated by non-religious?

Side: Yes, it is
AngryGenX(463) Disputed
0 points

Islam can be interpreted as a very peaceful religion just as Christianity

Incorrect, Islam gives very specific rules for interpretation. While there are contradictory parts of the quran that talk about peace and violence, the later surah supercedes the older. Also you have to realize the quran is not in chronological order. So a peaceful verse...

"There is no compulsion in religion; truly the right way has become clearly distinct from error;" quran 2:256 is abrogated by the much later surah 9:5 "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful."

The most commonly quoted verse from the quran is 5:32... "If anyone slays a person, it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people." However the quran does not actually say that... Here is the full verse. "On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone slew a person - unless it be in retaliation for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew all mankind: and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all humanity. "

Any apostate from islam, Christian apologist, or atheist could be easily considered to be "spreading mischief" by a muslim.

What is the very next verse in the quran?... "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter"

Side: Yes, it is
1 point

I don't think there are any truly peaceful monotheistic religions. I think that Jesus taught a peaceful message, and has the possibility of being the exception, but his teachings were misinterpreted. I have not studied Islam as in depth as I have Judaism and Christianity, but I think it is safe to say that many Muslims are guilty of the same misinterpretations as the other Abrahamic religious followers. They just happen to be even more militant than the others. This is in part due to their religion, and also their society. Education is not one of the highlights of the Middle East.

Side: No, it is not
AngryGenX(463) Clarified
1 point

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/ 023-violence.htm

I don't see how al quida, al nursa, hezbollah, boko haram, an the muslim brotherhood are "misinterpreting" anything. Muhammed fought in wars, he killed off his critics. He used wars to gain wealth, power, and sex slaves. The entire doctrine of sharia law is designed to take over a region and subdue the population, slowly converting them to islam through humiliation and brutality. Also beware of the doctrine of abrogation. Later verses in the quran supercede the older ones. So while muhammed was in Mecca, an had little power, he talked about peace. After he wa banished from Mecca and went to Medina, where he started gaining power an troops, he got more violent.

In Christianity, there is NEVER a call to go to war for Christ. By Jesus or his apostles. When Jesus was arrested and was talking to Pilate he said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place."

After Jesus's execution, no one raised an army. There is no promise of salvation if you get killed in battle. There is nothing that even says you should treat non-believers bad.

Of course that doesn't mean Cristian countries can't defend themselves, but I think You get the point.

Both the history and the text of the two religions could not be further apart.

Side: Yes, it is
TheAshman(2299) Disputed
1 point

Jesus may have intended Christianity to have been a peaceful religion unfortunately mankind fucked that up for him, come on dude if Christianity is truly the religion of peace how does that explain wars the genocide and persecution all in Christ's name all through history (it wasn't always self defense).

Remove the plank from thine own eye before examining the splinter in thy brothers

Side: Yes, it is
GuitarGuy(6096) Clarified
1 point

I don't see how al quida, al nursa, hezbollah, boko haram, an the muslim brotherhood are "misinterpreting" anything. Muhammed fought in wars, he killed off his critics.

Compare the Qur'an with Old Testament. Why are there not more Jewish and Christian extremists? I think what it comes down to is that Western society is more civilized and better educated. It's the same reason that Western Muslims are usually more peaceful than Middle Eastern Muslims.

He used wars to gain wealth, power, and sex slaves.

Deuteronomy 20:10-17 “When you go near a city to fight against it, then proclaim an offer of peace to it. And it shall be that if they accept your offer of peace, and open to you, then all the people who are found in it shall be placed under tribute to you, and serve you. Now if the city will not make peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it. And when the Lord your God delivers it into your hands, you shall strike every male in it with the edge of the sword. But the women, the little ones, the livestock, and all that is in the city, all its spoil, you shall plunder for yourself; and you shall eat the enemies’ plunder which the Lord your God gives you. Thus you shall do to all the cities which are very far from you, which are not of the cities of these nations.

“But of the cities of these peoples which the Lord your God gives you as an inheritance, you shall let nothing that breathes remain alive, but you shall utterly destroy them: the Hittite and the Amorite and the Canaanite and the Perizzite and the Hivite and the Jebusite, just as the Lord your God has commanded you,

The Bible promotes the same things.

In Christianity, there is NEVER a call to go to war for Christ.

Jesus certainly did not promote violence... But traditional Christians accept both Old and New Testament. The problem is that most Christians don't seem to truly understand Jesus' message.

Both the history and the text of the two religions could not be further apart.

New testament and the Qur'an are much different, I agree. However, Muslims consider Jesus to be an important prophet, where as Jews don't... Yet the Hebrew Bible is still an important part of Christian tradition. If you swapped the Qur'an with the Torah, then there wouldn't be much difference. Islam actually arose after Christianity, and is an Abrahamic religion. Judaism is the foundation of both Christianity and Islam. Without it, they would not exist, or they would at least be much different religions.

I compared Christian misinterpretations with Islamic misinterpretations, because they both misinterpret the Old Testament, which results in a misinterpretation of both the New Testament and the Qur'an, although, Islam could have originally been built off of the misinterpretations, since it is the youngest of the three Abrahamic religions.

Side: Yes, it is
1 point

Bullcrap. Have you heard of the crusades? .

Side: Yes, it is
1 point

Just try to draw Mohamed 0-(-< <- Mohamed, hope I ma not going to die... :D

Side: No, it is not

muslims are just as peaceful as christians, catholics, judists or any other religious fuckheads.

im sure if we did a body, rape, battery, etc count...islam wouldnt be far in the lead, if at all...

Side: No, it is not
1 point

like all major religions..................................

Side: No, it is not

If all or any religion is the religion of peace, why can't they achieve peace with each other or withing themselves? I don't think any religion is "the religion of peace" specific interpretations surely could be peaceful and pacifistic, but those are interpretations. I will call a religion, a religion of peace when every single interpretation in their is a peaceful one. Otherwise I am in a way performing the "no true scottsman" fallacy.

Side: No, it is not
AngryGenX(463) Clarified
1 point

Ah! Thank you for putting a name to that fallacy, I really need to get all those memorized to call them out when I see them...

However, there is a problem with your thinking... You are only looking at interpretations and actions of others, which are always going to vary within a religion. The question is more in the spirit of "are the teachings of Islam peaceful" not "are muslims peaceful." The various opinions of others is irrelevant, what does the quran say when you read it? Do the actions of muhammed show someone who is a peaceful person when you go to the source and read about it in the hadith?

Side: Yes, it is
1 point

At one time, maybe. Today, hell no.

Side: No, it is not

In reference to Sharia Law, it is not. Sharia Law calls for the execution of homosexuals.

Side: No, it is not

I base my answer on Sharia Law that calls for the execution of homosexuals.

Side: No, it is not
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I will let the "pro" arguer go first...................................................................................

Side: No, it is not
Mrmetsanchez(17) Disputed
1 point

The Abrahamic (Judaism, Islam, Christianity) religions are all religions of peace

Side: Yes, it is