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Yes, the Qur'an says love all No, Islam rejects other people
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Islam preaches tolerance

Islam is often a very misunderstood religion, despite being practised by over a billion people. It has controversial attitudes to women, homosexuals, and polytheists, so can we really deem it a tolerant religion? Or do the teachings of the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) clearly say that we should love one another and that hatred is always to be suppressed. Is there a defensible context for the hadith "kill the disbelievers", or are the teachings of the Qur'an too extreme to be applicable nowadays. This debate should focus not only on Islamic attitudes to other faiths, but also attitudes towards Muslims of different denominations and women within Islam. 

My personal opinion is that Islam is a tolerant religion as it preaches of kindness, forgiveness, and peace, and the Qur'an in many places talks of how respected and well-treated women should be. My only personal issue is the Qur'anic attitude to homosexuality. Is there any defence for such seemingly outdated views? This debate shall decide

Yes, the Qur'an says love all

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No, Islam rejects other people

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2 points

The Qur'an teaches us to love everyone because everyone is either a successful or failed Muslim. ;)

Side: Yes, the Qur'an says love all
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Actually, Islam does teach that it is loving to kill infidels, especially Christians and Jews, because they will be sent to Hell as punishment for refusing to say "God's name is Allah and His puppet is Mohammed". Islam teaches that after they burn in Hell for a while, they will learn to say Mohammed is God's poopit and Allah is God's name so they can be released from Hell and enter paradise, so killing them is doing them a favor in love by shortening their time so they don't keep on getting more time in Hell added to their sentence for refusing to kiss Mohammed's hiney as they grow old.

Side: Yes, the Qur'an says love all

All you have to do is look to the Mid East where Islam thrives to see whether they are peaceful and tolerant of others. From what I've seen and read, they hang gays; stone women for exercising control over their bodies; make women second class/chattel; persecute non Muslims; limit freedom of speech/expression; limit freedom of/from religion and association of groups.. just for starters. That's not tolerance in my book.

Side: No, Islam rejects other people
4 points

Funny, someone down-voted the truth. It must have been a liberal, or a Muslim.

Side: No, Islam rejects other people

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My hand was guided to this site and God's will has been fulfilled.

Hallelujah brother, hallelujah.

Side: No, Islam rejects other people
3 points

Quran (4:11) - "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females". In Islam, sexism is mathematically established.

Quran (2:228) - "and the men are a degree above them women"

Quran (24:31) - Women are to lower their gaze around men, so they do not look them in the eye.

Quran (4:24) and Quran (33:50) - A man is permitted to take women as sex slaves outside of marriage.

Sahih Bukhari (2:29) - Women comprise the majority of Hell's occupants. This is important because the only women in heaven mentioned explicitly by Muhammad are the virgins who serve the sexual desires of men

Tell me now Islam does not look down on women ?

Side: No, Islam rejects other people
1 point

Pop quiz - is this from the Qur'an or the new testament:

"Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."

Side: Yes, the Qur'an says love all
DBCooper(2194) Disputed
1 point

One more pop quiz for you are you ready ?

Tabari Vol 9, Number 1754 - "Treat women well, for they are [like] domestic animals with you and do not possess anything for themselves." From Muhammad's 'Farewell Sermon'.

Is this true or not ?

Side: No, Islam rejects other people
DBCooper(2194) Disputed
1 point

Another pop quiz for you are you ready ? Sure you are !

Stoning and Adultery

Does Islam prescribe the death penalty for consensual sex?

The religion that allows a man to keep sex slaves also requires the execution of consenting adults.

There were several times in Muhammad's life when he ordered that people be put to death when they had committed no crime other than "illegal" sexual intercourse. The only unmarried sex explicitly allowed in Islam is between a Muslim man and his slaves.

True or not ?

Side: No, Islam rejects other people
DBCooper(2194) Disputed
1 point

Sahih Bukhari (83:37) - Adultery is one of three justifications for killing a person, according to Muhammad.

Does this take place in a Religion of Peace and Tolerance ? You tell me !

Side: No, Islam rejects other people
DBCooper(2194) Disputed
1 point

Sahih Muslim (17:4206) - A woman who became pregnant confesses to Muhammad that she is guilty of adultery. Muhammad allows her to have the child, then has her stoned. The description is graphic: "Khalid b Walid came forward with a stone which he flung at her head and there spurted blood on the face of Khalid and so he abused her."

Islam really preaches tolerance ?

Side: No, Islam rejects other people
DBCooper(2194) Disputed
1 point

Sahih Muslim (17:4209) - A woman confesses adultery and is stoned to death on Muhammad's order.

Religion of Peace does treat women well !

Side: No, Islam rejects other people
DBCooper(2194) Disputed
1 point

Numerous examples of stoning adulterers under Islamic law persist, from the Islamist frontier of Somalia to the modern state of Iran. In 2010, the Taliban planted a couple having unauthorized sex in the ground and brutally pelted them with stones (the man had to be finished off with three gunshots) only a few days after they flogged a pregnant woman 200 times and then shot her in the head. In "condemning" the killings, the "moderate" president of Afghanistan would only say that it was wrong because it were not preceded by a trial.

You going to continue your support for the Religion of Peace ?

Side: No, Islam rejects other people
DBCooper(2194) Disputed
1 point

According to Umar (Muhammad's companion and Islam's second caliph) "[Allah] sent down the Book (Quran) upon him (Muhamad), and the verse of stoning was included in what was sent down to him." Umar went on to insist that "Stoning is a duty laid down in Allah's Book for married men and women who commit adultery when proof is established, or it there is pregnancy, or a confession." (Muslim 17:4194)

Do you Democrats approve of the Religion of Peace ?

Side: No, Islam rejects other people
DBCooper(2194) Disputed
1 point

The Qur'an uses the phrase "fornicators or adulterers" in verse 24:2 and prescribes 100 lashes as punishment (verse 4:15 suggests house arrest for "lewdness"). This almost certainly refers to unmarried sex, since it makes little sense for fornication and adultery to be prescribed the same punishment when they are different offenses. It would also contradict the many examples from the Hadith in which Muhammad put adulterers to death. In fact, Muslim (17:4209) records a case in which an unmarried man is flogged on the prophet of Islam's order, while his married partner in crime is stoned.

How is it you Democrats accept such behavior from a Religion of Tolerance ?

Side: No, Islam rejects other people
1 point

The Qur'an encourages love, tolerance, and admiration towards women "The Messenger of Allah (s.a.w.) used to salute women and they used to reply his salutation." It also says how "man should observe his duty to Allah in respect to the women, and treat them well". The Bible however, talks of keeping slaves, of beating women, and tells you that "if your daughter is raped by a man, and refuses then to marry him - stone her to death"

Side: Yes, the Qur'an says love all
DBCooper(2194) Disputed
0 points

Pop quiz - "Sahih Muslim (4:1039) - "A'isha said [to Muhammad]: 'You have made us equal to the dogs and the asses'" These are the words of Muhammad's favorite wife, complaining of the role assigned to women under Islam."

This true or not ?

Side: No, Islam rejects other people
DBCooper(2194) Disputed
0 points

Islamic law (Sharia) requires that adulterers be put to death, since it was the example set by Muhammad. In practice, the women are executed far more often, since they are presumed to bear the burden of sexual responsibility (in Islam's male-dominated society) and are, perhaps, more likely to confess their discretion. Rape victims are sometimes convicted if they speak out. Reporting a rape means a confession of adultery under Sharia law if four male witnesses cannot be found to confirm the victim's claim.

You want to continue to defend a religion that is polar opposite of what you Democrats believe ?

Side: No, Islam rejects other people
2 points

I'm going to leave this here.

ABC's Islam Deception-- Part Four: Muhammad and Religious Tolerance
Side: No, Islam rejects other people
1 point

No religion truly tolerates all people. As much as I am pro-Islam, I'll have to reject the idea that they are tolerant of all persons, for no religion is tolerant of all people.

Side: No, Islam rejects other people
Saintnow(3684) Clarified
1 point

Actually, Islam does teach that it is loving to kill infidels, especially Christians and Jews, because they will be sent to Hell as punishment for refusing to say "God's name is Allah and His puppet is Mohammed". Islam teaches that after they burn in Hell for a while, they will learn to say Mohammed is God's poopit and Allah is God's name so they can be released from Hell and enter paradise, so killing them is doing them a favor in love by shortening their time so they don't keep on getting more time in Hell added to their sentence for refusing to kiss Mohammed's hiney as they grow old.

Side: Yes, the Qur'an says love all
Saintnow(3684) Clarified
0 points

You probably include the faith of God in Jesus Christ as a religion. God is not a religion, He is a person and He came down from Heaven in the form of a man, the Son of God who loved His enemies and died for them. There is no greater tolerance, there is no greater love. Islam is nothing but enslavement by threat of force, and murder against those who refuse to bow as commanded by Mohammed.

Side: Yes, the Qur'an says love all