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Of course it is Ridiculous
Debate Score:58
Arguments:44
Total Votes:63
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It is rape if you have sex with a drunk girl

The law states that having sex with a drunk girl is considered rape. What do you think?

Of course it is

Side Score: 27
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Ridiculous

Side Score: 31
2 points

She isn't fully conscious. But if you also are drunk it's less significant a rape.

Side: Of course it is
nomeansno(49) Disputed
1 point

Yes, but she put herself in that state. The thing is that it is only rape if she is not conscious. Even when I am tired, I know what I want and do not want.

Side: Ridiculous
HatedByMany(61) Disputed
2 points

Do you know how peer pressure works?

Side: Of course it is
Sitara(11082) Disputed
2 points

So you are saying that she deserved to be raped? Pig. .

Side: Of course it is

Yes. If she did not want it then you raped her. But if she didnt do anything to even show oppression then I wouldnt consider it rape. If she decides to say no or tries to push you away then I would think its still rape.

Side: Of course it is

Well maybe you are right. I didnt really consider that. I dont know the law but I would probably bet that it may not be rape.

Side: Of course it is
StickinStone(649) Clarified
1 point

So, being drunk isn't what makes it rape right? Even though she can't think clearly and is likely to make poor decisions. If she poorly choose to have sex because she was drunk, are you saying that it isn't rape?

Side: Of course it is

If she shows any signs that she does not want sex then its rape. If she doesnt care then its not.

Side: Of course it is
1 point

If you're drunk, you can't make decisions properly.

Side: Of course it is
1 point

This is true whether you're a man or a woman. Do you think it should be gender specific?

Side: Ridiculous
Elvira(3446) Disputed
1 point

No. I was thinking about if the man was not drunk, and the woman was- that would clearly be rape. If they were both drunk, it is more complicated. If a drunk man is seduced by a sober woman, she is raping him. If a drunk attacks a someone, it doesn't matter if they're drunk or not. Overall, people should not drink themselves out of being able to think properly, but they should also not take advantage of others who are in that state. Maybe being drunk should be a crime?

Side: Of course it is

I would say so. When a person is drunk, they are incapable of logical thinking. A person can easily persuade somebody to engage in sexual activity if that said person is under the influence. I also agree that if both parties are drunk, well then it's not rape, it's bad decision making.

Side: Of course it is
1 point

It is consider rape because you are having sexually intercourse with her when she doesnt agree to it.

Side: Of course it is
1 point

If people cannot think straight, they cannot consent. .

Side: Of course it is
1 point

Yes, it is! The drunk girl will feel humiliated, when she is sober, also rape is forced sex. That is forced sex.

Side: Of course it is
1 point

If I am drunk and she is not, and I wake up humiliated, there's no way I can sue for rape. This is a sexist idea.

Side: Ridiculous
izazovnog(322) Disputed
1 point

Read it again. It doesn't say if a drunk man has sex with a girl. It says if a man has sex with a drunk girl.

Side: Of course it is
1 point

it is whether the girl is a little bit conscious or not. the question says a drunk girl and i don't think a drunk girl would be a little bit conscious. why cant the man have sex with the girl when she is fully conscious. the thing is that she is drunk, she doesn't know what she is doing at that time either she tries to refuse it or not.

Side: Of course it is
1 point

She is not conscious, thus she cannot consent.

Sex with no consent is rape.

But on this, the lines are blurred, I have to say.

It is only rape if she's so drunk she has no idea what's going on.

Side: Of course it is

I think it is. Since she is inebriated, she does not have her full faculties, hence, her ability to consent.

Side: Of course it is

Without a doubt it is a bad idea, but i don't know if i would go so far to call it rape. a good question to determine this is to ask "If a man gets drunk and kills another person, is it murder or manslaughter".

Side: Ridiculous
1 point

firstly,note how it says 'girl',bloody sexism! if women can get raped when drunk,men can too,ever hear of the term "beer goggles"?drunk or not if it was consentual at the time,it's NOT RAPE.there's a difference between rape and regret.you drink,you get drunk and while drunk you want to have sex with a man whom you wouldn't sleep with sober.how is he expected to know that?he's not a rapist,he's a person and so are you and if you make ridiculous mistakes like that when drunk then you just shoudnt be drinking! RAPE:any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.

In saying all of that,if you're drunk AND PASSED OUT,it's rape.if not and you consent at the time it's not rape.

Side: Ridiculous
3 points

If a girl is competent enough to take a substance that will make her more willing to have intercourse with someone, she is fully responsible for her actions while intoxicated.

Side: Ridiculous
2 points

What if she's drunk and agrees to have sex? That's not rape. She might regret it the next morning (or vice versa), but if she isn't being forced to have sex then I don't see how it can be considered rape.

Side: Ridiculous
1 point

God I hope not! I'd be raping chicks all the time if that was the case... besides, I'm usually drunk too... wait? Is it rape if you can't remember it the next day?

Side: Ridiculous
1 point

Another screwy USA law. The law of England and Wales defines rape as:

1)A person (A) commits an offence if— .

(a)he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis, .

(b)B does not consent to the penetration, and .

(c)A does not reasonably believe that B consents.

Following the ruling of R v Bree (2007) a person does not lose the capacity to consent to sex merely because she is drunk. However the defendent would have to show based on the balance of probability that she was capable giving that consent (R v Douglas [2005]). So it could be that the jury finds that she did actually consent. If this failed, then the accused could also argue that a reasonable person in the circumstances would have thought she had consented and that he believed the same.

Side: Ridiculous
1 point

If she is to the point where she does not know anything that is going on, or to where she is almost passed out, then yes it could be considered rape, but a lot of people have drunken sex. If guys were accused of rape for having sex with a drunk girl, then a lot of guys would be locked up.

Side: Ridiculous

As long as she screams, give it to me or fuck me harder, it is all good.

Side: Ridiculous