Jesus: Prophet or God?
The main focus of the debate is to gather evidence for either side to make a case if Jesus is God or a prophet. Although the debate forum is open for anybody, yet it is especially focused on people from different religious backgrounds. There are many ideas in regards to Who He is. Which is true?
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"Is Jesus not both the son of God and God himself? Do you believe, flame, that the Bible is 100% truth or just a bunch of stories with minor theological meaning behind it?" Definitions: Theology: noun (pl. theologies) 1 the study of God and religious belief. [1] Truth: 1. the true or actual state of a matter: He tried to find out the truth. 2. conformity with fact or reality; verity: the truth of a statement.[2] Story: 1 archaic a : history 1 b : history 3 2 a : an account of incidents or events b : a statement regarding the facts pertinent to a situation in question. [3] Introduction:
Some people have an honest inquiry to investigate the accounts written down by the eyewitnesses of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth. Namely, the four Gospels. That is, through the historical method. The problem is that when it comes to the Bible, it is not investigated with the same standard (historical method) as they would with other ancient documents. They would rather go by a different standard which is unreasonable. Indeed, the Bible, compared to other ancient manuscripts is trustworthy and reliable. a. Tacitus: The Roman Historian "There were other writers besides the Christian gospels. Take Josephus, for instance. Pliny, Suetonius, Tacitus. Lots of them mentioned a religious leader by the name of Christus. Whether or not you accept the Biblical version, surely the pagans are to be believed" Tacticus was considered a very reliable historian. He had immediate access (public records, official journals, etc.) from the time of Augustus to Vespasian. [4] For him to make the following statement: But not all the relief that could come from man, not all the bounties that the prince could bestow, nor all the atonements which could be presented to the gods, availed to relieve Nero from the infamy of being believed to have ordered the conflagration, the fire of Rome. Hence to suppress the rumor, he falsely charged with the guilt, and punished Christians, who were hated for their enormities. Christus, the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius: but the pernicious superstition, repressed for a time broke out again, not only through Judea, where the mischief originated, but through the city of Rome also, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their center and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind. [5] Is indeed awesome! You yourself clearly appealed to non-biblical sources which actually is known as "corroborating evidence" in the historical method. Louis Gottschalk, former professor of history at the University of Chicago, argues, "conformity or agreement with other known historical or scientific facts is often the decisive test of evidence, wheter of one or more witnesses."* [6] I just gave you one from those who you mentioned. Conclusion: Indeed I do have trust (faith) in the reliability and trustworthyness of the Bible because of non-biblical sources (pagan and Jewish, etc) that corrobates with the Bible concerning the accounts and events written down by the eyewitnesses of Jesus of Nazareth. Therefore, it is reasonable for me to trust concerning the identity of Jesus. [1] http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/ [2] http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ [3] http://www.merriam-webster.com/ [4] http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/ [5] Evans A. Craig, Fabricating Jesus, pg.104 [6] Gottshalck, Understanding History, pg 161 Side: God
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ALL MUSLIMS AL READY KNOW HE IS A PROPHET BUT SINCE U DON'T BELIEVE IN QURAN Let’s look at some of the BIBLE Scriptures that support Jesus accepted prophet among His people. Matt 21:10-11 Who is this?" So the multitudes said, "This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth of Galilee." Luke 7:16 “Then fear came upon all, and they glorified God, saying, "A great prophet has risen up among us"; and, "God has visited His people." In Luke 24:19 Peter is recorded saying “And He said to them, "What things?" So they said to Him, "The things concerning Jesus of Nazareth, who was a Prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people, John 6:14 “Then those men, when they had seen the sign that Jesus did, said, "This is truly the Prophet who is to come into the world." Referring to Moses and Deut. 18:15. Matt 14:5 “ they counted him as a prophet.” Matt 21:46 “ they took Him for a prophet.” Matt 13:57 Jesus said to them, "A prophet is not without honor except in his own country and in his own house." So it is established, they thought he was a prophet and He acknowledged this. John 7:40-41 “Therefore many from the crowd, when they heard this saying, said, "Truly this is the Prophet." V.41 Others said, "This is the Christ." WATCH 3 MINS ONLY POWERFUL SPEACH.
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